AVNADS Sending Fake Hits/Signups??? - GoFuckYourself.com

slutload · 07-21-2007, 05:37 AM

Ive been trying AVNADS on a few different websites, and i've chosen their Interstitials option to advertise.

They deliver a vast amount of hits in a very short time span, and their visitors seem to like my sign up pages a lot.

But what I discovered is that 90% of the signups do not actually use their accounts. They result in 0 user views per account.

Then I decided to build a CODE protection where people have to enter a certain code given on an image to prove they aren?t a computer signing up. The signups dropped with 90%, and all users who did sign up, also used their account. EVERY signup that has 0 views comes from either @YAHOO or @HOTMAIL. And EVERY signup is totally lowercase. This has to be automated software at work.

I have had this on two different websites now... I personally think they have some kind of hitbot sending the hits.
Also Alexa didn?t show ANY changes when I received 75.000 extra hits per to my websites. Which is basically DOUBLE of what I have normally!

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note: i have posted this same question on IQ69.com, another webmaster forum. There a lot of people have experienced similar shady results from AVN.

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note 2: i have asked for an explanation from avnads on this question, but they do not write back...

RayBonga · 07-21-2007, 05:39 AM

Doesn't look good

bobby666 · 07-21-2007, 05:41 AM

oh shit !

fris · 07-21-2007, 05:47 AM

kevin from avnads posts here, maybe he will respond

slutload · 07-21-2007, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris

kevin from avnads posts here, maybe he will respond

cool! would like to know if they can explain all this!

commonsense · 07-21-2007, 05:52 AM

This info was posted in a different thread.

Other thread

Are you the guy the other thread was referring to? Besides, it shouldn't be a shock that most bought traffic is fake or crap.

fris · 07-21-2007, 05:56 AM

i buy from avnads, had good results on what i purchased from

slutload · 07-21-2007, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris

i buy from avnads, had good results on what i purchased from

Also on Interstitials?

Sorry for this 2nd thread about the same topic. I wasnt aware someone else had quoted my post on IQ69. Im new to GFY...

fris · 07-21-2007, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slutload

Also on Interstitials?

Sorry for this 2nd thread about the same topic. I wasnt aware someone else had quoted my post on IQ69. Im new to GFY...

nope just plain text ads on some high traffic sites.

Penny24Seven · 07-21-2007, 07:44 AM

avn ads suck big time, there are others ways they fuck you too, just look at the history in threads

AVNads_KevinW · 07-25-2007, 10:15 AM

Slutload -

Here is my reply to your email.

Jeroen,

Thanks for the quick reply.

That was a pretty scathing post to post before contacting support.

Looking at what you have written there are some pretty glaring issues…

#1 Our tracking is based on a pixel that YOU place on a page YOU consider to be a conversion, often advertisers place that on to many pages and get extra conversions.

#2 Adding a security code OFTEN decreases the number of signups, especially if it isn’t tested properly. I have run into CAPCHA’s that I cannot get past. Please look into the CAPTCHA in more details.

#3 Use some more substantial data than “less signups” Do you have analytics in place to see what IP’s they originate from, how long are people on your site etc…

This is in no way enough date to issue a refund, and please contact me directly in the future before posting something like this on the boards!

Thank you,

Kevin

dougeetx · 07-25-2007, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVNads_KevinW

Slutload -

Here is my reply to your email.

Jeroen,

Thanks for the quick reply.

That was a pretty scathing post to post before contacting support.

Looking at what you have written there are some pretty glaring issues?

#1 Our tracking is based on a pixel that YOU place on a page YOU consider to be a conversion, often advertisers place that on to many pages and get extra conversions.

#2 Adding a security code OFTEN decreases the number of signups, especially if it isn?t tested properly. I have run into CAPCHA?s that I cannot get past. Please look into the CAPTCHA in more details.

#3 Use some more substantial data than ?less signups? Do you have analytics in place to see what IP?s they originate from, how long are people on your site etc?

This is in no way enough date to issue a refund, and please contact me directly in the future before posting something like this on the boards!

Thank you,

Kevin

Fuck them Kevin! Yall are the shit! Keep your head up brother!!

tranza · 07-25-2007, 10:23 AM

One thing that you should know, is that if you bought 75,000 Interstitial ads, you bought 75,000 VIEWS on your ad. Not 75k clicks. That's probably why you didn't see a change in Alexa.

07-21-2007, 05:47 AM	#4
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fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,381	i buy from avnads, had good results on what i purchased from __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

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07-25-2007, 10:15 AM	#11
AVNads_KevinW Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 90	Slutload - Here is my reply to your email. Jeroen, Thanks for the quick reply. That was a pretty scathing post to post before contacting support. Looking at what you have written there are some pretty glaring issues… #1 Our tracking is based on a pixel that YOU place on a page YOU consider to be a conversion, often advertisers place that on to many pages and get extra conversions. #2 Adding a security code OFTEN decreases the number of signups, especially if it isn’t tested properly. I have run into CAPCHA’s that I cannot get past. Please look into the CAPTCHA in more details. #3 Use some more substantial data than “less signups” Do you have analytics in place to see what IP’s they originate from, how long are people on your site etc… This is in no way enough date to issue a refund, and please contact me directly in the future before posting something like this on the boards! Thank you, Kevin __________________ Kevin Weatherman Email : [email protected] AIM : BlackLabelAds ICQ : 445-868-291 BlackLabelAds offers Text Links, Banners, Interstitials and In Video Ads, Paid on a CPC, CPM and Flat Rate.

07-25-2007, 10:23 AM	#13
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	One thing that you should know, is that if you bought 75,000 Interstitial ads, you bought 75,000 VIEWS on your ad. Not 75k clicks. That's probably why you didn't see a change in Alexa. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

07-21-2007, 05:37 AM	#1
slutload Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3	AVNADS Sending Fake Hits/Signups??? Ive been trying AVNADS on a few different websites, and i've chosen their Interstitials option to advertise. They deliver a vast amount of hits in a very short time span, and their visitors seem to like my sign up pages a lot. But what I discovered is that 90% of the signups do not actually use their accounts. They result in 0 user views per account. Then I decided to build a CODE protection where people have to enter a certain code given on an image to prove they aren?t a computer signing up. The signups dropped with 90%, and all users who did sign up, also used their account. EVERY signup that has 0 views comes from either @YAHOO or @HOTMAIL. And EVERY signup is totally lowercase. This has to be automated software at work. I have had this on two different websites now... I personally think they have some kind of hitbot sending the hits. Also Alexa didn?t show ANY changes when I received 75.000 extra hits per to my websites. Which is basically DOUBLE of what I have normally! --- note: i have posted this same question on IQ69.com, another webmaster forum. There a lot of people have experienced similar shady results from AVN. --- note 2: i have asked for an explanation from avnads on this question, but they do not write back...

07-21-2007, 05:39 AM	#2
RayBonga too cool for highschool Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: East side, West side, Worldwide! Posts: 12,164	Doesn't look good

07-21-2007, 05:41 AM	#3
bobby666 boots are my religion Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Heart of europe Posts: 21,765	oh shit ! __________________

07-21-2007, 05:52 AM	#6
commonsense So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,790	This info was posted in a different thread. Other thread Are you the guy the other thread was referring to? Besides, it shouldn't be a shock that most bought traffic is fake or crap.