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Old 09-03-2002, 03:08 PM   #1
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TaRPy aka Justin Eleazer = **THieF**

he has a stolen copy of UCJ install script, and has solicited selling the source to me, as well as a couple other heavies in our industry I will not disclose at this time....

he had his former programmer present on the server whilst Tim from UCJ was installing / compiling the script, and snagged the source etc...

additionally, he has ripped off his former partner, and my former roommate out of over $6500....

furthermore, he is 'farming out' the work Matrix has contracted him to do, to lower paid college kids. apparently matrix is under the understanding it is him doing the work... my former roomie has icq history with Justin aka Tarpy with him bragging about how he's farming out work Matrix thinks he's doing....

he has also lied to his business partners about bandwidth costs on a server they shared, pocketing the difference...

the kid is shady, plain and simple, and it makes me sick to see this level of unethical practices... the sad thing is, he isnt even russian....

disclaimer = i am told he works for/with MATRIXCONTENT doing gallery and tgp work and i keep matrix in the highest regard, but Tarpy is a 19yo thief plain and simple...
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Holy shit. I hope to NEVER get on your bad side.

What happens to all the people who get "outed" as frauds in here?!?
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Holy shit. I hope to NEVER get on your bad side.

What happens to all the people who get "outed" as frauds in here?!?



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Holy shit. I hope to NEVER get on your bad side.

What happens to all the people who get "outed" as frauds in here?!?
they change their name to "pimpdog" version # = (fill in appropriate pimpdog version #) and continue on like nothing at all happened.
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Old 09-03-2002, 03:12 PM   #8
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He sounds cool guy. I'm about to release my sponsor programm called scambucks.com. If he is interested to work with the rest of my team he can contact me.
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Old 09-03-2002, 03:18 PM   #10
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Back off soul rebel I am already contacting him for employment at http://www.cheatski.com
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But my program is more established than yours and I need the new talent in the art of scamming
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A definite cadidate for Cheatski.com!

Why do kids feel the need to cheat? Use your brain, make money the right way..

There's no way I'll do business with this guy, and I wonder what Matrix is doing working with such people?
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Old 09-03-2002, 03:30 PM   #16
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intresting.
I met him in Florida, and was under discussion to work a deal with him through matrix for some content.

He seemed fine and other than being a tad pushy and aggressive he seemed to have some work ethic that seemed promising.


I hope this isnt true, he seemed like a good guy.

Damn......
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Old 09-03-2002, 03:35 PM   #17
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Haha, cute.

Anyhow, I have a license for ucj on the domain it is used on. If you can show me another domain I'm using it on, go to town. you can verify that I paid for that Script in full ask tim.

This would be k-man's roommate pissed that when he left I didn't give him a permenant banner spot for life on my TGP. What can I say, some people just want everything for free, without putting up the work.

As for the server, they can say that I lied about costs, which I didn't but the fact remains, and I have the logs that no one ever paid a dime for that server, that all the cost was supposed to come out of future earnings that sadly never came.

This old partner wanted a top banner spot on a small TGP that isn't even profitable as it was for his contributions which total'ed about "hey man you should start a TGP" and he did some gallery reviewing for me for a bit. He never designed it, or paid in a single dollar. Every supposed industry contact that would give us a better deal never did. This Guy, Junior Fennelli or Junior Isbel, depending how you want to do it, didn't hold up his end so I dropped him.

K-man is his roommate, but if you want the logs on him regarding K-man as "he's such a little girl he can dish it but god knows he can't take shit" you can have them too.

As for the matrix shit, you can ask matrix themselves, there have been no such jobs. I'll ask them to post when I get around to it.

That's all I'm going to say on this thread, since it's an obvious slander attempt, but fitting for king of this board I suppose.

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PS - Anyone that does business with me that has concerns feel free to contact me for proof of all of this.
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To clarify, Matrix is working with diabolical on diabolicalgalleries.com

I am in no way affiliated with any other diabolical sites or web properties. I do run matrixthumbs.com.

TarPy

PS - I post because boneprone ICQ'ed me with the understanding that I own diabolicalsex.com which I don't. He apparently got that from this thread.
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Thank you for all the regard...

Boneprone - I told you to call me direct would take care of you just like i did at the party... LOL

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As for this accusation against Tarpy I am not aware of any shady things that he has done with us. We are known in the industry as being a very honest company. I have given him some projects to work on that i do not have the time to do myself.

I am giving the KID a chance. He has been trying and that is all i can ask for. If he farms work out that is his deal hell i admire that cause i am farming it out myself .. LOL that is delegation.

K-Man - I take your opinion into consideration (we know alot of the same people) and you have always done the right thing. I only persecute on things that i know .. If there is any proof to the claims made here i will heed them appropriately.

Thus far Tarpy has been helping out on a TGP that i have and do not have time to run. Thus far has not stolen anything from ME. When i met him he seemed like an eager "ready to work" kid. I am sure that he is not totally innocent of anything but who here is. I am giving him a chance to prove himself as a webmaster.

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Im ready for it all in Vegas Baby!
Lets hook it up Jeff!
Show your kid the ropes and keep em out of Kmans reach and he'll do just fine.
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Hey, can i get a copy of that ucj source code bud?
How much you want for it?
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nevermind. some russian just gave me an offer i cant refuse!
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hahahaha boneprone rules
i'm expecting a copy too
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i wonder if he can get me the tm3 script also?
I hear its a good one!
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jeff, how are ya?

as soon as Tim sees his Install source code, im sure he will post on the AWI board about Tarpy and his practices, for obvious reasons i cant give you the code, bit i certify it is in Tarpy's former programmer's possession... I am waiting for Tim to read his ICQ as we speak... damn aussies are on their own schedule..

anyhow, i am not involved, but i am certifying that all accusations are true... take from it what you will... i present the facts for your perusal... jeff feel free to icq me 1337988 and we can chat...

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So his former programmer stole the code, tried to sell it, got busted and blamed tarpy? Is that accurate?
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So his former programmer stole the code, tried to sell it, got busted and blamed tarpy? Is that accurate?
kind of ...

tarpy had his programmer steal UCJ, then tarpy tried to sell it to me, and another big name webmaster whose name i wont release.....

there are 3 different people's icq logs to prove this, as well as the word from me, and the other webmaster who were approached..

nobody got busted, or exposed, until now.... i am exposing justin's practices =)
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kind of ...

tarpy had his programmer steal UCJ, then tarpy tried to sell it to me, and another big name webmaster whose name i wont release.....

there are 3 different people's icq logs to prove this, as well as the word from me, and the other webmaster who were approached..

nobody got busted, or exposed, until now.... i am exposing justin's practices =)
Sounds like a guy taking opportunity by the horns....
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let me understand.
he tried selling this to YOU, and some "big" webmaster?

WTF?
WHy didnt he come to me? I feel left out.
I was even partying with him in Florida, and no such deals for the bonester?

WTF??
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I met that "Tarpy" at the show, the kid would not
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We finally ignored him and he left! Aria was really
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JR, i think you are confusing him for me.
That was me at your booth refusing to leave lurking for hours and hours watching, staring, and buggin Aria.
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furthermore, he is 'farming out' the work Matrix has contracted him to do, to lower paid college kids. apparently matrix is under the understanding it is him doing the work... my former roomie has icq history with Justin aka Tarpy with him bragging about how he's farming out work Matrix thinks he's doing....

Forgive me for my ignorance, but is this a no-no? Aside from possibly lying to the client (Matrix in this example), what's wrong with farming out your work? Sounds smart to me, damn smart... I do it myself quite often.
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So this means he's not available to work for cheatski.com ?

I only employ true spammers and scammers.
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Forgive me for my ignorance, but is this a no-no? Aside from possibly lying to the client (Matrix in this example), what's wrong with farming out your work? Sounds smart to me, damn smart... I do it myself quite often.
no, it's not illegal, but it is shadiness....

if i pay someone to do something as a single person entity/employee, i'll be damned if i'd let him sit back, and pay some college kid $2 an hour to do the job...
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no, it's not illegal, but it is shadiness....

if i pay someone to do something as a single person entity/employee, i'll be damned if i'd let him sit back, and pay some college kid $2 an hour to do the job...
I guess. If I pay somebody for something, I'm always interested in the quality of work and the speed in which its done. If it's top quality and done quickly, I could care less who does it. Unless of course I specifically asked for a certain designer or programmer... styles can make a difference.

I'm not trying to start shit here bro, but why are you moving to Thailand again?
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Matrix knows what TarPy does and there's nothing wrong with farming out work. If this was anyone but kman, the gfy vultures would have been all over him for posting this shit in here like this before going to the source.
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I guess. If I pay somebody for something, I'm always interested in the quality of work and the speed in which its done. If it's top quality and done quickly, I could care less who does it. Unless of course I specifically asked for a certain designer or programmer... styles can make a difference.

I'm not trying to start shit here bro, but why are you moving to Thailand again?
i sold rawpussy and am starting a mainstream programming and design business =)
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i sold rawpussy and am starting a mainstream programming and design business =)
Not exactly what I was referring to... but we'll leave it at that.
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Actually this is not gay..

As former talent in the industry I have a great respect for it and simply wanted everyone to know about Justin's un-ethical practices.

I've known him from playing online games (we were in the same clan) since he was a 15 yr. old who used to BEG me to do a net porn project with him. After he turned 18 I finally gave in and we started a TGP together with the help of my good friend and roommate Kman.

Over the last year I have come to find out what a shady, evil character he is. I thought the same thing that matrix is thinking, I just wanted to give him a shot too. He was very energetic and seemed like a good young person to help. This was the beginning of a nightmare.

If anyone (matrix..one twisted pair..UCJ) is interested in seeing gobbs of proof, I will be happy to provide it. For everyone else, I simply wanted to put out a warning.

Be careful of Mr. Eleazer.. he would sell his own mom for pennies on the dollar.

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Old 09-03-2002, 05:39 PM   #45
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Actually this is not gay..

As former talent in the industry I have a great respect for it and simply wanted everyone to know about Justin's un-ethical practices.

I've known him from playing online games (we were in the same clan) since he was a 15 yr. old who used to BEG me to do a net porn project with him. After he turned 18 I finally gave in and we started a TGP together with the help of my good friend and roommate Kman.

Over the last year I have come to find out what a shady, evil character he is. I thought the same thing that matrix is thinking, I just wanted to give him a shot too. He was very energetic and seemed like a good young person to help. This was the beginning of a nightmare.

If anyone (matrix..one twisted pair..UCJ) is interested in seeing gobbs of proof, I will be happy to provide it. For everyone else, I simply wanted to put out a warning.

Be careful of Mr. Eleazer.. he would sell his own mom for pennies on the dollar.


So are you the programmer who stole the source for UCJ?
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Old 09-03-2002, 05:48 PM   #46
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No, but that programmer works for me now and feels really bad about it. Justin had him do it and he didn't really know what he's doing.
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No, but that programmer works for me now and feels really bad about it. Justin had him do it and he didn't really know what he's doing.
a programmer that didn't know he was stealing code? Wow.... that's gotta be rare.....
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a programmer that didn't know he was stealing code? Wow.... that's gotta be rare.....
either way his programmer isnt in our industry, Tarpy is, hence the warning to adult webmasters =)
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Old 09-03-2002, 06:02 PM   #49
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No, but that programmer works for me now and feels really bad about it. Justin had him do it and he didn't really know what he's doing.
Look, i dont know justing and dont care if he eats babies in his off time. But the programmer didnt know what he was doing? Is he stupid or am i?
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No, but that programmer works for me now and feels really bad about it. Justin had him do it and he didn't really know what he's doing.
Hehe. This is starting to sound like Bold and the Beautiful.
Or some other soap opera
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