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Old 07-05-2007, 02:24 PM   #51
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dems don't have the balls for it, they leave attacking, defaming, slandering and impeaching to the irresponsible repubs. Too bad, because I say fight fire with fire.
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:24 PM   #52
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The problem isn't Bush. The problem is that no one will actually do anything about it, ever. We have become a bend over and take it up the ass society, and until that changes, nothing will ever get better.

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Old 07-05-2007, 02:26 PM   #53
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I'm really curious why you like him. I'm not being sarcastic either, just curious. When I look at his record, outside of being a Senator, he's primarily been a lobbyist for big business. So have many of his family members.

He's pro-life, anti-gay, anti-science, anti-judicial branch. He's really gravitated toward the evangelicals and a prominent one has even came out and said that his wife would be a champion for cracking down on pornography.

I like him on fiscal issues though, which is about it. I'm just curious why you'd risk your business over supporting someone the blogs conservative blogs think is cool? I put my family before some blogs.
Because he pushes the John Wayne button, and repubs are always looking for daddy figures to worship and take direction from.
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Protest in public - Bush and the Secret Service created "free speech zones" for when he speaks. They allow him to move protesters miles away from where he is. There are pending lawsuits on this.

Challenge Detention - Just look up the Military Commissions Act of 2006.

Charged with a crime that wasn't a law at the time - Also see Military Commissions Act of 2006.

Flag Draped Coffins - Bush Administration has put a policy on the DOD not to release or allow any photos of the flag draped coffins. They have fought attempts to have them released under Freedom of Information Act.

Show Support/Non-Support for Candidate - McCain/Feingold Act

Phone/Library/Email/Search/Etc - See Patriot Act

Pornography - See huge increase in obscenity indictments.
Ill take time to address just one of those

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCain-Feingold

Bi partisian act first off, secondly was introduced in 95.

Ok another flag on the coffin pictures.

Policy was around since 1991
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in613301.shtml

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"This policy of no photos has been in effect since 1991," said John Molino of the Defense Department. "It has been tested over time and it reflects what families tell us that they would like as far as treatment of shipment of remains."
If I recall that would of been around the time Clinton was elected.

All the time I have today, but the others can be easily disputed. And some dont apply to American citizens, only to enemy combatants.
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Old 07-05-2007, 02:34 PM   #55
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Impeaching King George and his Darth Vader is long overdue.
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Ill take time to address just one of those

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCain-Feingold

Bi partisian act first off, secondly was introduced in 95.
Bipartisan means nothing to me (I don't give a shit about parties), and the one in 95 was blocked by Republicans and for good reason. The one in 2002 was signed, and it was signed by President Bush into law. It should have been vetoed.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in613301.shtml

If I recall that would of been around the time Clinton was elected.

All the time I have today, but the others can be easily disputed. And some dont apply to American citizens, only to enemy combatants.
It doesn't matter if the policy was around in 1776, Bush is enforcing it today. Clinton wasn't in power till 1993, and the article even states that policy wasn't really enforced during his tenure. Still, when it was done in 1991, it was wrong, just as it is now. I guess if Bush had slaves it would be OK since Jefferson did at one time.

And the others aren't refutable. I have tons of other things, like making the FCC fines so ridiculous for indecency that a radio station can be put out of business for one curse word.

All Presidents try to take our rights away. Bush has done more than many in recent memory though.

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I as many others believe man made global warming is a crock of shit.
"Sweltering residents across the West headed for lakes and rivers on Thursday, seeking relief from triple-digit temperatures expected set records through at least Friday."...

"But temperatures in part of the West were climbing so high that authorities warned residents of southern Nevada, southeastern California and northwestern Arizona to avoid any outdoor activity except during the cooler early morning hours. Phoenix was expected to reach 115 degrees; forecasters predicted a high of 123 degrees in Baker, Nev."...

"In Montana, farmers anxiously watched their crops and thermometers. High temperatures for a handful of days can harm crop yield."...

"Even Stanley, Idaho, which at more than 6,000 feet elevation is routinely the coldest place in the lower 48 states, was seeing record highs, the National Weather Service said. The remote town in the Sawtooth Mountains was expected to reach 93 degrees Thursday, and 92 degrees Friday."...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070705/...e_us/heat_wave

Global Warming, what a crock of shit that is.
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Old 07-05-2007, 03:15 PM   #58
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Ive wanted him to run since 2000 or so. He isnt Anti gay, he is just not pro gay marriage. He is a straight shooter. Which one do you think would go after porn more, Al Gores wife, or Fred Thompsons? Most of the fluff about conservatives going after porn is just that fluff. He is anti tax, and for smaller government. Evangelicals support him, that doesnt mean he is going to do whatever they like. Im pro life so Im in support of that. He isnt anti science, he is pro "facts" not bs paid for by grants, to perpetuate more grants. The judicial branch isnt supposed to make laws. That is what he is against there. Straight shooter. Strong backbone, strong on defense, strong on low taxes.

He'll win it I have no doubt.
If he is such a straight shooter, then why the need for him to make "fluff" ?
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Old 07-05-2007, 03:17 PM   #59
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I'm just curious why you'd risk your business over supporting someone the blogs conservative blogs think is cool?

Stinkyass has no business (or life for that matter). He contributes nothing to society, and spends his days posting the latest crap he heard on Limbaugh that day. Typical Bush supporter.

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Even the Walmart greeter wouldnt have the time to post 23 times a day in here for the past 2 years.
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Old 07-05-2007, 03:54 PM   #61
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Stinkyass has no business (or life for that matter). He contributes nothing to society, and spends his days posting the latest crap he heard on Limbaugh that day. Typical Bush supporter.

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Even the Walmart greeter wouldnt have the time to post 23 times a day in here for the past 2 years.
I rarely start political threads. I just respond to them. There are a lot of people on here with more than 23 posts per day that do just fine for themselves.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in613301.shtml



If I recall that would of been around the time Clinton was elected.
wasn't that the previous bush?
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Old 07-05-2007, 07:22 PM   #63
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Ive wanted him to run since 2000 or so. He isnt Anti gay, he is just not pro gay marriage. He is a straight shooter. Which one do you think would go after porn more, Al Gores wife, or Fred Thompsons? Most of the fluff about conservatives going after porn is just that fluff. He is anti tax, and for smaller government. Evangelicals support him, that doesnt mean he is going to do whatever they like. Im pro life so Im in support of that. He isnt anti science, he is pro "facts" not bs paid for by grants, to perpetuate more grants. The judicial branch isnt supposed to make laws. That is what he is against there. Straight shooter. Strong backbone, strong on defense, strong on low taxes.

He'll win it I have no doubt.
He was also a mole for the Nixon white house during watergate. You go girl.

He ain't got a fucking chance, just like all the repubs this time around. The dems are taking in so much more money this time around. It's swinging back towards the normal people again, and away for nutjobs like sticky. Only problem is it''s gonna take more than a decade to clean up clown boys mess.
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People don't realize that democrats win there will be quite a few things going down which won't help anyone:
1. Capital gains will be back to 30% base.
2. Mortgages will be not tax deductibe over $380k loan amount
3. Unions will be formed in every company possible.
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I second that, third it, and however many other votes you need to get those to assholes out of office, and put in Jail
ahh the snowball effect.. People can't quit pushing this issue.
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Sticky is a nice guy but he doesn't think much. I think Sticky doesnt really see porn as his industry my guess is his wife has a really good job.
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Love ya Stu, but I cant think of a single thing I cant do now that I could do prior to 2000.
Clearly you are too retarded and clueless...
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Take a tip and don't respond - to anything. It's pointless...
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Only problem is it''s gonna take more than a decade to clean up clown boys mess.
That's probably the only relevent core issue - cleaning up the trash and restoring the country to a viable basis with some credibilty
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Take a tip and don't respond - to anything. It's pointless...
Have a drink! I only post that since you seem to want to squash my freedom of speech. Pretty typical of left wing nutjuobs..

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Have a drink! I only post that since you seem to want to squash my freedom of speech. Pretty typical of left wing nutjuobs..
Bet's on you are even more stupid that you appear here
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Sticky is a nice guy but he doesn't think much. I think Sticky doesnt really see porn as his industry my guess is his wife has a really good job.
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Was that supposed to be some sort of a sentence?
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Was that supposed to be some sort of a sentence?
Yeah.. it's Arabic
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Well first off Bet's would be possessive. What is it that Bets owns? Think there maybe should of been some sort of missing punctuation there too.... Hell what do I know, I'm the stupid one after all. Mr. GreyWolf.....
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I'm the stupid one after all.
You said it - and very true.

You have to be the most stupid individual on this board - and that's saying a lot. Don't care to "discuss" with idiots - I've got a life.
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You said it - and very true.

You have to be the most stupid individual on this board - and that's saying a lot. Don't care to "discuss" with idiots - I've got a life.
Jesus FUCKING Christ you are like a bad penny. Just fuck the hell off Webby.. Cant hide your pompus dipshit ass for even 1 month can you?
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simma down now.. just saying ouch.. not agreeing!


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Here's the kind of stand up guy your Fred Thompson is

"Thompson tipped off the White House that the committee knew about the taping system and would be making the information public. In his all-but-forgotten Watergate memoir, "At That Point in Time," Thompson said he acted with "no authority" in divulging the committee's knowledge of the tapes, which provided the evidence that led to Nixon's resignation. It was one of many Thompson leaks to the Nixon team, according to a former investigator for Democrats on the committee, Scott Armstrong , who remains upset at Thompson's actions."

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So they want to start and impeachment process when the guy has a year or so left in office? Seems like a grandstand move to me, with no real point other than to get his name in the news.
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anyone seen fred thompsons wife?
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Here's the kind of stand up guy your Fred Thompson is

"Thompson tipped off the White House that the committee knew about the taping system and would be making the information public. In his all-but-forgotten Watergate memoir, "At That Point in Time," Thompson said he acted with "no authority" in divulging the committee's knowledge of the tapes, which provided the evidence that led to Nixon's resignation. It was one of many Thompson leaks to the Nixon team, according to a former investigator for Democrats on the committee, Scott Armstrong , who remains upset at Thompson's actions."

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There is a good indicator the Dems are running scared. Hasnt even announced his run officially, and already running around trying to dig up whatever they can. They cannot win on their own merits, so have to try to undermine those of their opponents. Pathetic.
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So they want to start and impeachment process when the guy has a year or so left in office? Seems like a grandstand move to me, with no real point other than to get his name in the news.
If found guilty it could leave a more permanent mark on his presidency, as well as putting up the message that no one is greater than the constitution.
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Which one? The current or the history? *lol*
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Is there an official statement from Bush as to WHY he commuted the sentence of Libby?
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There is a good indicator the Dems are running scared. Hasnt even announced his run officially, and already running around trying to dig up whatever they can. They cannot win on their own merits, so have to try to undermine those of their opponents. Pathetic.
sounds vaguely familiar. Maybe the dems have been paying attention to Roves slimy tactics.
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There is a good indicator the Dems are running scared. Hasnt even announced his run officially, and already running around trying to dig up whatever they can. They cannot win on their own merits, so have to try to undermine those of their opponents. Pathetic.
what do the dems have to do with the fact that Thompson was a rat for Nixon, and given his career track record appears to be bought and paid for by the pharma industry? Do you even read what's posted or do you just come back with some random republitard reply?
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There is a good indicator the Dems are running scared. Hasnt even announced his run officially, and already running around trying to dig up whatever they can. They cannot win on their own merits, so have to try to undermine those of their opponents. Pathetic.
oh you mean just like your group did with kerry and gore before him. Dont be a hypocrite.
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oh you mean just like your group did with kerry and gore before him. Dont be a hypocrite.
Here's the difference in this case and just about every case between dems and repubs: This is nothing but God's truth about Thompson, whereas the bullshit about Kerry and Gore was all lies, half truths and innuendo funneled through groups specially created for that purpose like swift boat veterans for truth.

Dems are afraid to speak the truth out loud because they don't want to be seen as rude and pushy, republicans make shit up and lie right to your face and never heard of the word shame. Too bad people like stickyfingers aren't smart enough to see the difference.
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Old 07-05-2007, 11:11 PM   #94
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Here's the difference in this case and just about every case between dems and repubs: This is nothing but God's truth about Thompson, whereas the bullshit about Kerry and Gore was all lies, half truths and innuendo funneled through groups specially created for that purpose like swift boat veterans for truth.

Dems are afraid to speak the truth out loud because they don't want to be seen as rude and pushy, republicans make shit up and lie right to your face and never heard of the word shame. Too bad people like stickyfingers aren't smart enough to see the difference.
omg lol Im too sleepy so Ill leave it at that.

I still like ya though Dig even if we are polar opposites politically. Same way with Tony and many others. Its fun as shit to mess around debating as long as people can keep is cool and seperate.
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Old 07-05-2007, 11:14 PM   #95
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There is a good indicator the Dems are running scared. Hasnt even announced his run officially, and already running around trying to dig up whatever they can. They cannot win on their own merits, so have to try to undermine those of their opponents. Pathetic.
It is just facts. How is that not winning on their own merits? Was Thompson not a mole for Nixon? Was he not a lobbyist? Did he not vote for the things mentioned? I dont think that is undermining, just stating the career of the politician.

And your party is the last one to talk, just look at the Swift Boat group.
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Old 07-05-2007, 11:34 PM   #96
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Here's the difference in this case and just about every case between dems and repubs: This is nothing but God's truth about Thompson, whereas the bullshit about Kerry and Gore was all lies, half truths and innuendo funneled through groups specially created for that purpose like swift boat veterans for truth.

Dems are afraid to speak the truth out loud because they don't want to be seen as rude and pushy, republicans make shit up and lie right to your face and never heard of the word shame. Too bad people like stickyfingers aren't smart enough to see the difference.
Lets not let Dems off the hook, they have their share of crooks and liars too.

But the parties are different like you say. Democrats are pussies and afraid to stand up to Republicans. They'd rather whine to the media then actually fucking do something about it. They got elected to end the war, they bitched about it for years, but now that they have the power they hide under their desks. They'd rather pander to labor union and unskilled workers then build an economy based on competition and innovation. They believe that making money is a bad thing, that if you work your ass off to make money you should have to give it to those who are fucking lazy.

Republicans are just sheep herders. They spout off a bunch of bullshit on patriotism and a bunch of hicks cream their pants. They aren't as intelligent as most liberal voters, so they blame everything in the world on liberal bias. From schools to media to Hollywood. When they get caught doing something retarded, it's easier to blame it on some bias then it is to take fault. They are better at brainwashing their supporters which can be seen in how they dominate the radio. Shit, they've got 20% of the party to back a career lobbyist who hasn't even declared. They are hypocrites by basing their beliefs on "Christian values" but voting against almost everything that helps the poor or less fortunate. They bitch about liberal leaning media yet don't have a problem with Fox News.

Both parties suck and don't give a shit about anyone here. They'd slit your throats and rape your family if they thought it could get them a few extra votes.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:04 AM   #97
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too late in the game.. not worth arguing at this point. end of thread
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