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Old 06-28-2007, 07:06 AM   #1
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FACT: Ancient Chinee built a wall 3500 miles long to keep out invaders

It was 2300 years ago.

Modern day America can't get a 700 mile one going.

Of course, the difference is that the Chinese emperor didn't want 10 million Mongols to take Chinese jobs

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Old 06-28-2007, 07:09 AM   #2
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:10 AM   #3
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FACT: It wasn't built to keep people out, it was to keep them in.
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:10 AM   #4
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I don't Think The Mongols were planning on sneaking across the border. Rather Coming to Kill and takeover.
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:10 AM   #5
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ok, i gonna admit, you lost me with this nickname

how did you do it?
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:12 AM   #6
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ok, i gonna admit, you lost me with this nickname

how did you do it?
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Old 06-28-2007, 07:16 AM   #7
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Ok, I see you used

some strange character to replace the "a" letter

congrats, you've must been thinking about this for a week
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It was built by forced labor and slaves.. I'm sure we could build a wall if we had 1000's of people forced to work 15 hour days too.
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:30 AM   #9
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Ok, I see you used

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congrats, you've must been thinking about this for a week
Now some idiot will register polish_aristocrat with a weird "a", heh
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:52 AM   #10
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FACT: It wasn't built to keep people out, it was to keep them in.
ummm no it wasn't..it was built overall for defense, but mainly to keep out those pesky Mongolians.

The Great Wall concept was revived again during the Ming Dynasty following the Ming army's defeat by the Mongols in the Battle of Tumu in 1449. The Ming had failed to gain a clear upper-hand over the Mongols after successive battles, and the long-drawn conflict was taking a toll on the empire. The Ming adopted a new strategy to keep the Mongols out by constructing walls along the northern border of China. Acknowledging the Mongol control established in the Ordos Desert, the wall followed the desert's southern edge instead of incorporating the bend of the Huang He

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Old 06-28-2007, 09:55 AM   #11
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it wasn't big like that 2300 years ago

Mao restore it bigger than original last century
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:02 AM   #12
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It was built by forced labor and slaves.. I'm sure we could build a wall if we had 1000's of people forced to work 15 hour days too.
Isn't that who the people who want a wall are trying to keep out?
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the truth is, that they could easily build it now... but those wiser in charge, realize that illegal immigrants actually benefit our economy... really, the only group that would benefit from reduced immigration are limited skill laborers, everyone else would get fucked by increased inflation...
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ummm no it wasn't..it was built overall for defense, but mainly to keep out those pesky Mongolians.

The Great Wall concept was revived again during the Ming Dynasty following the Ming army's defeat by the Mongols in the Battle of Tumu in 1449. The Ming had failed to gain a clear upper-hand over the Mongols after successive battles, and the long-drawn conflict was taking a toll on the empire. The Ming adopted a new strategy to keep the Mongols out by constructing walls along the northern border of China. Acknowledging the Mongol control established in the Ordos Desert, the wall followed the desert's southern edge instead of incorporating the bend of the Huang He

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ahh.. that's great. but it's almost impossible to guard the entire wall.. it's made to prevent easy ability to leave with 'loot'
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:33 AM   #15
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ahh.. that's great. but it's almost impossible to guard the entire wall.. it's made to prevent easy ability to leave with 'loot'
They didn't need to guard it (though they did in areas).

They needed it to act as a geographical barrier... much like an artificial mountain range.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:44 AM   #16
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They didn't need to guard it (though they did in areas).

They needed it to act as a geographical barrier... much like an artificial mountain range.
Yeah i must agree with you... During the Warring States Period from the 5th century BC to 221 BC, the states of Qi, Yan and Zhao all constructed extensive fortifications to defend their own borders.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:27 AM   #17
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Actually that is a complete MYTH. The Great Wall is not visible from space either. The great wall is actually a collection of fortifications that were built over several dynasties. Their use was limited according to whether or not locals were getting along with the mongols or not, which changed from time to time and location to location.

There was a good New Yorker article about this a month or two ago.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:30 AM   #18
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FACT: It wasn't built to keep people out, it was to keep them in.
FACT: I think you need to brush up on your history.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:34 AM   #19
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Actually that is a complete MYTH. The Great Wall is not visible from space either. The great wall is actually a collection of fortifications that were built over several dynasties. Their use was limited according to whether or not locals were getting along with the mongols or not, which changed from time to time and location to location.

There was a good New Yorker article about this a month or two ago.
Actually while is started out as a patchwork of smaller fortifications it was unified\completed during the Qin Dynasty and then expanded significantly in the Ming.
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Is China better off today because of that wall?


They're not mongolian?


Without that wall, China might've been dominated by fierce mongolian warriors!
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They're not mongolian?
So without the wall the Chinese today would all be mongols?
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Isn't that who the people who want a wall are trying to keep out?
Hehe, maybe we should hire the Mexicans to build the wall, living in Arizona and all these walled neighborhoods here, they have mad experience building walls.

And the labor price, way cheaper than paying the natguard. Did you see we built part of the wall within Mexico.. We got the skillz too!
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Thats not true at all. Get your facts straight.
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I don't Think The Mongols were planning on sneaking across the border. Rather Coming to Kill and takeover.
have you seen the gangs in the SW
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Hehe, maybe we should hire the Mexicans to build the wall, living in Arizona and all these walled neighborhoods here, they have mad experience building walls.

And the labor price, way cheaper than paying the natguard. Did you see we built part of the wall within Mexico.. We got the skillz too!


not a bad Idea hire illegals to build the wall, as they finish they could be on the Mexican side of the wall and then go home.
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The Republicans really screwed up immigration. You bet we need a wall.
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Actually, they only built the wall to stop the reformed Led Zeppelin from touring in China. Keep the nasty 60 year old hairballs out of the country.
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