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Old 06-26-2007, 12:32 PM   #51
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Why is that?
because people from all walks of life have commited crimes like this. just because the guy is more muscled up than most people, doesn't mean that steroids caused him to commit the crime.

maybe they, maybe they didn't. but assuming steroids caused him to commit this crime is presumptuous and stereotyping.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:20 PM   #52
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holy fuck this is the first i heard he was dead


ive been out of the loop on wwe for a year
shit... i used to love his matches - such a great technical wrestler

how fucked
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Why would the WWF give that piece of shit a tribute???? he killed his wife and 7 year old son!!!!!
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I love how all of these out of shape, obese webmasters who have never seen the inside of a gym know everything about steroids and "know" that this is the reason why Benoit killed his family.
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I love how all of these out of shape, obese webmasters who have never seen the inside of a gym know everything about steroids and "know" that this is the reason why Benoit killed his family.
What he said.
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What he said.
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That's just horrible Whatever happened to divorce?!? Killing your own child....I just can't understand that...! There is NO excuse!
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HBO Real Sports did an excellent piece on all of the misinformation that is out there regarding steroids and why they were actually outlawed in the first place AGAINST the recommendation of the FDA and the DEA. I know it has been posted on here before but I can't seem to find it on any of the tube sites, so maybe someone can post a link.

I spent a lot of time dealing and working with the pro wrestling industry and it is not the steroids that caused all of the early deaths nor any of the murders. When you are taking certain types of steroids you need to refrain from using alcohol, pain killers, muscle relaxants, or any other types of drugs to allow your liver to properly process them. A typical pro wrestler on the road may be taking steroids, but they are also ingesting Vicodin, Soma, and any other pain killer they can get their hands on in huge quantities. If you take pain killers or muscle relaxants you know that your body grows resistant and you need to take huge quantities to get the same effect after you have been abusing them for years. Even though wrestling is fake it does a ridiculous amount of damage to your body, and when you are on the road in the vicinity of 300 days a year you get little to no time to rest and properly heal injuries.

They are also living a rockstar lifestyle, so you can throw in cocaine, crack, heroin, and a number of other drugs and you can see why so many die way before their time. Blaming "roid rage" for a murder is insane and is indicative of believing anything you are being told. It is the equivalent of someone saying "Oh, you are in the porn industry, you must be a degenerate, pedophile, sex offender, drug dealer, etc." You are using the same generalizations that you hate to have used on you.
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Ok...

I think this is all just one big WWE storyline..

Vince died a few weeks ago in a Limo crash..

Now we are supposed to think Benoit Hung himself??

Haaa! This is a great WWE storyline!

I can see it already.. The Noose and hanging ropes being sold at WWE event stands nation wide.
Sadly THAT was FUNNY....

But speaking of Vince's 'death' a buddy of mine gets lots of 'insider info' regarding WWE and shit, Vince's 'death' came up right after he was diagnosed with cancer and instead of him going through it all 'live' they had his char killed off.

It would have worked well but after The Wolverine's murder/suicide Vince HAD to speak about it so his 'death' is now publicly debunked.

look forward to a 'cancer announcement' sometime soon OR vince gets 'killed off' again lol

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What a tragic way to die and also very cowardly regardless if steroids was the cause
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Sadly THAT was FUNNY....

But speaking of Vince's 'death' a buddy of mine gets lots of 'insider info' regarding WWE and shit, Vince's 'death' came up right after he was diagnosed with cancer and instead of him going through it all 'live' they had his char killed off.

It would have worked well but after The Wolverine's murder/suicide Vince HAD to speak about it so his 'death' is now publicly debunked.

look forward to a 'cancer announcement' sometime soon OR vince gets 'killed off' again lol

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I think your buddy has been reading one too many wrestling forums. Vince does not have cancer. The storyline was hastily thrown together after the complaints of the fans of The Sopranos ending, and Vince decided to try and capitalize on it.
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fact of the matter is that he tossed the kid through the coffee table with a german suplex, quickly turning to smack the wife in the head with a metal folding chair. he then proceeded to throw her into a crippler crossfaced, immediately after attempting to climb the entertainment center for a giant elbowdrop to the sternum of the child. while in the process of doing so, the great shawn michaels and triple h both emerged from the kitchen after fixing some fabulous egg salad sandwiches, only to pull him from the height and viciously work him with a furious storm of ground kicks. Shawn commenced to throwing him into a back suplex, after which hunter finished him off with a well executed sharpshooter...
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Sounds like he fits the profile of a family annihilator. His wife filed for divorce years ago. She suggested he abused her. From the outset, everyone seems him as this great provider and family man. Family annihilators usually do the crime when they're under the influence of alcohol or drugs, but I don't think this was a case of roid rage. He supposedly killed his wife on Friday night and his son on either Saturday night or Sunday morning. This was clearly something he had taken some time to think about. I just wonder what happened to tip him over the edge like that.
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Blaming "roid rage" for a murder is insane and is indicative of believing anything you are being told. It is the equivalent of someone saying "Oh, you are in the porn industry, you must be a degenerate, pedophile, sex offender, drug dealer, etc." You are using the same generalizations that you hate to have used on you.

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ahaha..i heard a bible was near the bodies...so it wasn't the roids but religon..haha
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everyone understands the term "roid rage" and what it implies.

that has nothing to do with reality. some guy being a little more irritable or aggressive than normal, is hardly the same as planning to fly home and kill your family.

if you knew what you were talking about, you would know how prolific steroid use and steroid abuse is in pro sports, other sports (high school/college or any just about any sport), bodybuilding and so on... and that obviously people running around killing their families in a premeditated manner, hasn't exactly been a huge problem.
this is 100&#37; true... no way in hell would steroid irritability get you to fly home, plan to kill your family... and spread it out over a weekend

let me explain "roid rage" for the folks that don't really understand it

roid rage = you cut me off, i'd drive up next to you and throw my drink at you... this has to be within the span of around a minute or so

this guy was just fucked in the head and the "roid rage" thing is a complete cop out to give performance enhancing drugs more of a bad rap & make it a scapegoat for the kiddies that looked up to this guy... every other wrestler is / has been on steroids as well

there is such a thing as hormone replacement therapy where they put lots of older folks on steroids & you don't hear about nightly bingo massacres all across the country right?

ahh well

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I think your buddy has been reading one too many wrestling forums. Vince does not have cancer. The storyline was hastily thrown together after the complaints of the fans of The Sopranos ending, and Vince decided to try and capitalize on it.
lol naw actually he was a writer for WCW back before Vince bought it from Turner, he was brought on for a few months to WWF (before name change) and then Vince canned 90% of the WCW staff, he still talks with some of his ex co-workers here and there, and that is where he got the cancer info from.....

If I remember right (I'll get ahold of him to confirm it) but it was supposed to be Throat or Lung cancer that Vince was diagnosed with about 3 weeks ago or less.

I do not watch nor care much for wrestling, I used to but these days it's just too fucking hoaky for me lol.

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everybody is jumping on the bandwagon with the 'roids didn't do it bullshit. regardless of whether or not they actually had an effect in this case you're all equally as guilty for defending an opinion you know absolutely fucking NOTHING about.

now, i'm not saying it did or didn't have to do with the roids, but while it may not have been a 'roid induced frenzy that directly pushed him over the egde, do you not think that after an extensive, extended period (possibly years and years worth) of use, the irritablity, anxiety, and possible depression caused as a result of his steroid abuse couldn't have factored into the mental instability and warped perception that lead to him taking such an action?

you'd have to be fucking crazed to not take into consideration what toll being all hyped up on growth hormones for years on end wold take on your psyche. combine this with the fact that he was more than likely a fucking blowtard, with a superiority complex, and who knows what the fuck went to his head.

the fact that so many of you seem to take to the defense of steroids (perhaps defense is the wrong word, but it's the best i cna think of at the moment) should be a concern in itself. i don't give a fuck if you want get all juiced up, but stating that roids would never push a person to this level (that is if he was actually on roids, which we don't even know positively, even though it is likely) is no more inaccurate an assumption than the people stating that he went roid crazy. not one of has any clue what twisted his mind to the point that woud make him go out and do something like this...
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everybody is jumping on the bandwagon with the 'roids didn't do it bullshit. regardless of whether or not they actually had an effect in this case you're all equally as guilty for defending an opinion you know absolutely fucking NOTHING about.

now, i'm not saying it did or didn't have to do with the roids, but while it may not have been a 'roid induced frenzy that directly pushed him over the egde, do you not think that after an extensive, extended period (possibly years and years worth) of use, the irritablity, anxiety, and possible depression caused as a result of his steroid abuse couldn't have factored into the mental instability and warped perception that lead to him taking such an action?

you'd have to be fucking crazed to not take into consideration what toll being all hyped up on growth hormones for years on end wold take on your psyche. combine this with the fact that he was more than likely a fucking blowtard, with a superiority complex, and who knows what the fuck went to his head.

the fact that so many of you seem to take to the defense of steroids (perhaps defense is the wrong word, but it's the best i cna think of at the moment) should be a concern in itself. i don't give a fuck if you want get all juiced up, but stating that roids would never push a person to this level (that is if he was actually on roids, which we don't even know positively, even though it is likely) is no more inaccurate an assumption than the people stating that he went roid crazy. not one of has any clue what twisted his mind to the point that woud make him go out and do something like this...
you know nothing about what he took... if he took anything at all... much less if he was doing a cycle at the time or coming off the cycle or hadn't taken any steroids in the last 10 years.

people are not defending steroids... people are pointing out the stupidity of the automatic assumption that steroids had something to do with it, without knowing anything about him, what he was doing, what he was taking, if he was taking anything at all, knowing anything about steroids, types of steroids, combinations of various steroids, side effects, post cycle therapy... etc etc etc. and then pointing out the obvious... that its highly unlikely that there is any connection even if he was doing a cycle or coming off a cycle

its no different than Tom Cruise killing his family and people automatically blaming Scientology and babbling on about Scientology while ignoring the obvious fact that the motherfucker is crazy, has issues and was bound to snap at any moment.


People in this world fucking disgust me today. Why can't a crazy motherfucker be just that? Since when can't people be totally normal (or spend the bulk of their time convincing people they are) and then just snap and do insane shit?

Why does there have to be a clear, black and white cause to point at so people can say "oh, i get it... yeah, if it wasn't for XYZ.. that would have never happened"

The ignorance about steroids and steroid use, really annoys me.

"steroids" has become some fucking taboo word thats NEVER used or discussed in any proper context. its like making "alcohol" a taboo thing and NEVER distinguishing between a drunk who sleeps in a cardboard box in a puddle of his own piss and shit and the guy who drinks a glass of wine at dinner.

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Did anyone hear the LATEST??????

Its been said that the 7 year old son was given Growth Hormone for sometime and had an incident report of track or needle marks from its use...

This guy was fucking wacked in the head.

Giving HGH to his 7 year old son.........

WTF?
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How could he do that? what's the real score??
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Did anyone hear the LATEST??????

Its been said that the 7 year old son was given Growth Hormone for sometime and had an incident report of track or needle marks from its use...

This guy was fucking wacked in the head.

Giving HGH to his 7 year old son.........

WTF?
HGH is injected intramuscular. So no track marks.
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HGH is injected intramuscular. So no track marks.
HGH is more commonly injected subcutaneously in the abdominal area by the belly button so that it can get absorbed by the blood stream and into the intestinal track

even then you wouldnt have track marks... no steroids are shot into veins
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Did anyone hear the LATEST??????

Its been said that the 7 year old son was given Growth Hormone for sometime and had an incident report of track or needle marks from its use...

This guy was fucking wacked in the head.

Giving HGH to his 7 year old son.........

WTF?
HGH is injected into the stomach skin (off to one side or another of the belly button) with an insulin needle. it doesn't leave "needle tracks"
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you know nothing about what he took...
AND NEITHER DO YOU. Nor do you know anything about how it may have affected his personality had he been using them, or any other drug for that matter. to blame this fully on steroids alone is unfair, but not to be unexpected either. people are just making a fair observation. you could make any number of assumptions with a high likelihood in a situation like this, we do have quite a bit of background information. all you've done by speaking out in the defense of steroids is lead people to believe you have some reason to defend their use...

i could go ahead and make all sorts of assumptions about mr benoit here. so i'm going to, and i'm willing to bet i nail several square on the head...

it probably wasn't his first outburst of violence agianst his family, he probably beat his wife prior to this event, maybe even his kid. he played a tough guy, and he probably took his tough guy rle to heart, using violence as an answer to his problems. he was probably a either a drunk, or a cokehead, or maybe both if not more, he did have alot of money. he probably had some serious self-image issues, maybe a superiority/inferiority complex with people. this was probably a person who hated himself and spent his whole life trying to make himself someone people would like, he made his living in front of a camera, where looking the role was his job. the combination of any of these things and the stress of celebrity status, could surely have drove him completely fucking loopy, and he more than likely did do steroids at one point or another, or continuously as needed, which i'm sure doesn't do a damn thing to benefit a person with an already fragile perception of their own world...

i don't profess to KNOW whether any of it is true. like i said they're all asumptions. regardless, knowing his lifestyle, they are all justifiable statements as to the possibility of what pushed him to that point, including the possibility of steroid use. and if he WAS on roids, they certainly didn't help the situation any, so there isn't any point in defending them whatsoever...

people don't just up and decide to kill their wife and child for no reason. something conditions their mind to do that. everyone formulates the outcome of their being through some experience or another. you don't just go crazy and start killing people for shits and giggles...
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There are possible legitimate reasons for a 7 year old to take HGH.

Don't be so sensationalist. You're sounding like Fox News.
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There are possible legitimate reasons for a 7 year old to take HGH.

Don't be so sensationalist. You're sounding like Fox News.
You are right..

The kid was probably taking it for health reasons..

Only a nut would give his 7 year old son HGH otherwise..

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Drug companies sure have everyone by the balls, don't they. They can buy congressmen, they can by a president, now it looks like they have bought WWE officials. How otherwise would you explain blatant advocating, or as they call it - concerns over media speculations. Why such a radical stance over it? Why protect the use of steroids with such a passion and sound like everything is at stake here? Is it that maybe their main sponsor has got them by the balls and is dictating them to?
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ANother tid bit...

Benoit was a known and documented wife beater...

But hey, lets not jump to conclusions here...

Lets defend him some more and blame the media like WWE has been doing.

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kid apparently had some fucked up disease.. maybe the hgh helped..

"Aside from intellectual disability (mental retardation), prominent
characteristics of the syndrome include an elongated face, large or
protruding ears, flat feet, larger testicals in men (macroorchidism), and
low muscle tone."
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Benoit was a known and documented wife beater...

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not to defend him or jump to conclusions.. but threats (which is what she alleged) do not equal beatings.
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Again, there are legit reasons for a kid to take HGH. If you've ever seen pics of Daniel, you'll see that there's something wrong with him.

I'm not defending Benoit. Until last night, he was one of my favorite wrestlers. Now I'm just appalled at his actions. I'm just simply saying there's no need to get all sensational over hearsay when the actual facts are sensational enough as it is.

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Growth hormone deficiency is treated by replacing GH. All GH prescribed in North America, Europe, and most of the rest of the world is a synthetic copy of human GH, manufactured by recombinant DNA technology. As GH is a large protein molecule, it must be injected into subcutaneous tissue or muscle to get it into the blood. Nearly painless insulin syringes make this less trying than is usually anticipated but perceived discomfort is a subjective value.

When a person has had a long-standing deficiency of GH, benefits of treatment are often obvious, and side effects of treatment are rare. When treated with GH, a deficient child will begin to grow faster within months. Other benefits may be noticed, such as increased strength, progress in motor development, and reduction of body fat. Side effects of this type of physiologic replacement are quite rare. Known risks and unsettled issues are discussed below, but GH deficient children receiving replacement doses are at the lowest risk for problems and receive the greatest benefit.

Still, costs of treatment in terms of money, effort, and perhaps quality of life, are substantial. Treatment of children usually involves daily injections of growth hormone, usually for as long as the child is growing. Lifelong continuation may be recommended for those most severely deficient as adults. Most pediatric endocrinologists monitor growth and adjust dose every 3-4 months. Assessing the psychological value of treatment is difficult but most children and families are enthusiastic once the physical benefits begin to be seen. Treatment costs vary by country and by size of child, but $US 10,000 to 30,000 a year is common.

Little except the cost of treating severely deficient children is controversial, and most children with severe growth hormone deficiency in the developed world are offered treatment. Most accept. The story is very different for adult deficiency.
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not to defend him or jump to conclusions.. but threats (which is what she alleged) do not equal beatings.
LOL...

And warning signs dont equal murder...


But in this case they did...

Again people defending someone who was a worst case sceniero scumbag.
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Healthy HGH use or not.. I guess it really doesnt matter...

Daddy killed em.

Cant help but disect what the fuck went wrong can you?

Something went wrong.. This wasnt just some random act...

This whole thing is just fucked up.

How can you NOT look back and add up all the fucked up shit here and there.
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Dont think of me as some hater or wrestling critic.. Im a huge fan. And as a fan I was always impressed and enjoyed Benoit. From his WCW days to WWE days.. I loved watching him...

But people wrestling is fake..

The character you see and love on TV isnt the person in real life.

This guy was very very fucked up in real life. That is a FACT.....

For the WWE to paint this guy as a babyface in real life was a very stupid move in their part..
Dont fall for that shit. This guy is or was the worst that it gets. Scum of the scum..
And to think otherwise about him is a mistake.. This guy was fucked up...
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Healthy HGH use or not.. I guess it really doesnt matter...

Daddy killed em.

Cant help but disect what the fuck went wrong can you?

Something went wrong.. This wasnt just some random act...

This whole thing is just fucked up.

How can you NOT look back and add up all the fucked up shit here and there.
I'm not surprised one bit by anything you've said. The guy obviously had a rage control problem, which could have easily been the result of being a drunk, a cokehead, a roid monkey, a narcissist, whatever. And he was probably pretty hung up on image, his own and his families...

Who knows, maybe he flipped out because he had a retarded son, blamed his wife for it, killed her, and killed the kid, realized what fuck show his entir elif ewas and had become and killed himself...

the guy had some fucking issues...
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There's no doubt in anyone's mind that Benoit was seriously fucked up behind the scenes.
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This guy was very very fucked up in real life. That is a FACT.....

For the WWE to paint this guy as a babyface in real life was a very stupid move in their part..
Dont fall for that shit. This guy is or was the worst that it gets. Scum of the scum..
And to think otherwise about him is a mistake.. This guy was fucked up...
That's all fine and good, he was fucked up...

but until yesterday... who knew?

And the tribute was done before there were any real details...
and after the shit they took from 'going on with the show', after owen...
they pretty much had to do the tribute show...
which up til the news that benoit was the bad guy came out, people pretty much thought it was a good thing.

hindsight sucks.
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You are right..

The kid was probably taking it for health reasons..

Only a nut would give his 7 year old son HGH otherwise..

My bad.
i love this post.

thank you boneprone
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You are right..

The kid was probably taking it for health reasons..

Only a nut would give his 7 year old son HGH otherwise..

My bad.
Well, he's already proved he is a nut

But knowing the situation with the kid, it was probably legit use.

I wonder if daddy got a discount deal on bulk roids?
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AND NEITHER DO YOU. Nor do you know anything about how it may have affected his personality had he been using them, or any other drug for that matter. to blame this fully on steroids alone is unfair, but not to be unexpected either. people are just making a fair observation.

suggesting steroids played a big role in him killing his wife is not a "fair observation". its a baseless assumption being defended by some as fact... and without any real knowledge of the topic or any rational basis for such an assumption.
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what would be his reason to do that? he's career is doing good... that was really crazy...
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suggesting steroids played a big role in him killing his wife is not a "fair observation".
suggesting that they could have played a role in formulating his psychological displacement, had he been using them, is though...
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Murder suicides are often the result of one partner cheating... I'd be surprised if this isn't the driving reason.
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Who the hell is Chris Benoit?
Chris Benoit is the rabid wolverine (wrestler) in WWE.




Chris holding the WWE championship belt...




Chris Benoit is my favorite Wrestler of all times.. But sorry.. I think he has some personal problems.... Oh My!!!
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Chris had a background of issues with Nancy, she reported his abusive behaviour to police 4 years ago and was going to seek a restraining order but changed her mind.

She was also seeking custody of their son in a divorce settlement. So obviously there were long-term issues in that household.

So to all the junior detectives and pharmaceutical experts ... try actually learning some facts before you speculate maybe? Jesus, you're worse than Nancy Grace.
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Chris had a background of issues with Nancy, she reported his abusive behaviour to police 4 years ago and was going to seek a restraining order but changed her mind.

She was also seeking custody of their son in a divorce settlement. So obviously there were long-term issues in that household.

So to all the junior detectives and pharmaceutical experts ... try actually learning some facts before you speculate maybe? Jesus, you're worse than Nancy Grace.
And exactly what fact did you prove? Nothing. So people can continue to speculate all they want. Some contributing factor was making him an abusive husband, probably a poor parent, and an incredibly unstable human being. Any halfway sane person, even going through the worst divorce settlement imaginable, doesn't kill the spouse and child without some addition outside factors having tipped him over the sanity line...
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i've used steroids, know quite a bit about steroids and am surrounded for a couple hrs a day by quite a few people on steroids at the gym that i am great friends with and spend a lot of time with. blaming an isolated, premeditated act of murdering ones family on steroid use is ignorant.
drinking booze doesnt make you drive your car head on into innocent children..

but if you drink booze and drive your car , you have to know that could happen.

thus steroids dont cause people to murder someone , but if you know that you get OVERLY mad when your on steroids, then getting mad while on steroids could cause you to lose it..

in both cases the drug doesnt cause the result but its a major factor ..
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Chris had a background of issues with Nancy, she reported his abusive behaviour to police 4 years ago and was going to seek a restraining order but changed her mind.

She was also seeking custody of their son in a divorce settlement. So obviously there were long-term issues in that household.

So to all the junior detectives and pharmaceutical experts ... try actually learning some facts before you speculate maybe? Jesus, you're worse than Nancy Grace.
heh so now your a "senior detective", unless you personally knew him, then your just going by some news report , doesnt tell you anything.. do you know his tox results ? if you found out he had taken a shitload of steroids in the morning , 4 times what he usually took , would you then say despite the other info that steroids had something to do with it ? even a major role ?

your evidence only further suggests he could have been a frequent sterioid rage guy and this time he went too far , certainly doesnt rule out steroids as playing a major role..

i think some people just tak offense to the steroid theory because maybe they have taken them and dont think they are capable of murdering their family , and this is most likely the case. i dont think anyone is trying to imply taking steroids will turn you into a blood thristy killer. but i think there's a lot of people capable of murder that never act upon it.
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