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JimmyReject · 08-29-2002, 04:04 PM

I see SoulCash is now doing its own billing and thus now have $30 a signup etc which i refuse to do because of risk of shaving can you suggest some good sites which use third party billing.

I'll miss chick trick.

hyper · 08-29-2002, 04:06 PM

www.mafiabucks.com
www.lightspeedcash.com

ElvisManson · 08-29-2002, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JimmyReject
I see SoulCash is now doing its own billing and thus now have $30 a signup etc which i refuse to do because of risk of shaving can you suggest some good sites which use third party billing.

I'll miss chick trick.

That is a really shitty thing to post on here.

SixNine is a great guy and about as conscientous as they get.

If you think that SixNine is capable of shaving you then you might as well get out of this business...'cause you'll never trust anyone.

Pornwolf · 08-29-2002, 04:23 PM

I've been waiting for Soulcash version 2.0! Six Nine has been getting it ready for a while. The add ons are going to be really nice from what I've heard.

I'm glad you are not using them now so I can get the signups you might have gotten since I'm about to double my traffic to them!

Now that Soulcash Version 2 is finished, all I want to see now is Adultcentro. Why do the best ideas take so long?

Techie Media · 08-29-2002, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisManson

That is a really shitty thing to post on here.

SixNine is a great guy and about as conscientous as they get.

If you think that SixNine is capable of shaving you then you might as well get out of this business...'cause you'll never trust anyone.

Well said Elvis, Sixnine is 1 of the best peeps in the business, and a great person to do biz with. That comment about him shaving is 100% bull shit and uncalled for.

nocostporn · 08-29-2002, 04:27 PM

That webmaster interface hurts my eyes...sheesh

payrollpete · 08-29-2002, 04:30 PM

Everybody seems nice at one point of time, trust very few and you will go very far in this business

Shaving is natural, you should be use to it

And don't finger point Sixnine if you don't have any proof, thats just whimpness

nocostporn · 08-29-2002, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by payrollpete
Everybody seems nice at one point of time, trust very few and you will go very far in this business

Shaving is natural, you should be use to it

And don't finger point Sixnine if you don't have any proof, thats just whimpness

Yeah no shit,if they bought that stat tracking software prebuilt trustt me the shave factor is going to come into play.. I've looked at the 5 biggest stat tracking softwares that a lot of programs are using now and they ALL have a shaver built in... To dismiss it on saying "oh so and so is a good guy,trust him!" is foolish...
At one time or another the crook was a good guy

nocostporn · 08-29-2002, 04:34 PM

and I'm not implying anything...that was just a general statement lol

Fletch XXX · 08-29-2002, 04:35 PM

Drop that shit holmes, dont knock SixNine with that nonsense.

Sixnine's program takes off larger than before and you come like this?

Idiot.

RogerV · 08-29-2002, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JimmyReject
I see SoulCash is now doing its own billing and thus now have $30 a signup etc which i refuse to do because of risk of shaving can you suggest some good sites which use third party billing.

I'll miss chick trick.

Why don't you see if you make the same before you pull your traffic you might even make more.
Everyone is so worried about shaving watch your bottom line
you might even make more with them.

there not going to shave so you make less thats not in there best interest.

payrollpete · 08-29-2002, 04:35 PM

i'll tell you this much

sponsors can shave as long as you take enough to the bank to be happy with

ask serge, this theory worked for his webmasters

Wizzo · 08-29-2002, 04:39 PM

Yea, I have to agree...You have a better chance of a thrird party biller shaving you, than Sixnine....He's topnotch in my book!

RogerV · 08-29-2002, 04:39 PM

Plus there are many benefits to running your own program and stats
#1 you can have multi processors on the back end so you get more joins. if one scrubs the card to hard they bounce it to another. Plus what happens if Ibill or ccbill goes down for a day they don't lose any joins and neither do you.
But then again what do i know

JimmyReject · 08-29-2002, 04:45 PM

I don't think SoulCash shave biut i've a policy of only using companies 3rd party billers.

I'm sure SixNine is as honest as Jesus and The Pope combined and would never take a single $ off me. He is such a great guy i'm gonna name my children after him, even the girls.

My point wasn't that he shaves because he doesn't. My point was I needed a new sponser. Me and my partnerc always said we'd only use 3rd party because of horror stories.

sixnine = mr honest

So guys stop bashing me, i'm not saying Soulcash shaves, they don't and never will. I just want a new sponser.

Fletch XXX · 08-29-2002, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JimmyReject

So guys stop bashing me, i'm not saying Soulcash shaves, they don't and never will. I just want a new sponser.

You are dropping his program because you claim he may or may not shave.

Might as well say he IS or WILL.

JimmyReject · 08-29-2002, 04:53 PM

Sorry but DTA

At least with a third party biller your 100% sure your check will come which means i get to pay the bills.

Sixnine has never even spoken to me when i e-mailed him for advice on promoting his program so how the fuck am I meant to know how great a guy he is or not.

You can only trust someone from experience and I have no experience with him. Sorry, you guys are getting all uptight over nothing.

XXXPaysiteDesign · 08-29-2002, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JimmyReject
I see SoulCash is now doing its own billing and thus now have $30 a signup etc which i refuse to do because of risk of shaving can you suggest some good sites which use third party billing.

I'll miss chick trick.

Trust me, a person like SixNine has enough money that they don't need to shave. Let the websites do the work and rake the cash in.

payrollpete · 08-29-2002, 05:02 PM

"a person like SixNine has enough money that they don't need to shave"

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha ha

nothing against sixnine, i just heard that quote so many times

"blah blah has enough money dosen't need to shave"

ROFL

oh shit

thats 2 funny

Theo · 08-29-2002, 05:03 PM

i don't personally know Sixnine, but I hear only good words from people I trust.....so if you start losing faith for such people then you shouldn't trust anyone. Lack of trust in this business will cause you problems. I'm not saying to be blind, but don't freak too.
I'll tell you the following:
I have a good quality source of traffic for a niche, i was using one of the FlyntDigital sites (which honestly they are awesome) but although it was the same niche it couldn't convert it at all. FD use jettis and they pay $30/trial. I switched to another big per signup sponsor that use their own billing and stats and instantly I doubled my profits.

JimmyReject · 08-29-2002, 05:04 PM

I'm so sorry, if anyone thinks i meant any harm you are wrong. I shouldn't of mentioned Soulcash as they are THE BEST sponser ever.

I'm sorry please forgive me.

Dugmor · 08-29-2002, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JimmyReject
I see SoulCash is now doing its own billing and thus now have $30 a signup etc which i refuse to do because of risk of shaving can you suggest some good sites which use third party billing.

I'll miss chick trick.

Her First Gang Bang !

Dawgy · 08-29-2002, 05:06 PM

sixnine gives the best head, u should use his program.

errrr. did i say that out loud?

JimmyReject · 08-29-2002, 05:06 PM

Awesome, thanks.

payrollpete · 08-29-2002, 05:08 PM

sixnine runs a solid program, and soulcash has my thumbs up all around

switching to their own billing is extremely risky, and i will keep a close eye to see how he does just for my own information. you guys must understand that if anything were to happen he is the type of guy who would pay his affiliates no matter what. so thats a good thing.

ibill, ccbill, etc. all have high fraud scrubs. to be honest though, i have done my own merchant billing myself and it seems worth it at the start, but then it really isn't. the credit card companies have it so they value the consumers word more then they do you, so when you run into problems your kind of screwed. doing your own merchant proccessing is fine and dandy if you have SEVERAL offshore merchant accounts rolling transactions through each one. then you have backup incase you lose an account (which will happen to you once every now and then). chargebacks in this business unfortunatley you can not dispute, even with AVS it is still hard to dispute a chargeback because the card holder did not physically sign for the purchase which is policy of the credit card companies. well its not so much of a policy, but, if you want to dispute a chargeback thats how you would dispute it, by saying look here i have this reciept with his signature on it, he did buy it. then you will be covered. is this a smart move for soul cash, i dont know, i hope so, but my advice is that doing your own merchant proccessing for adult paysites is EXTREMELY rough and should only be done if you have several offshore merchants, you see, in north america you have to keep under 1.5% but offshore you can go up to 3.5% - 4% chargeback rate which is more realistic for the adult business. either way, get set for a rocky road sixnine

FATPad · 08-29-2002, 05:11 PM

All the pay per signup programs have a way of proving they don't shave...and none of them ever takes it.

payrollpete · 08-29-2002, 05:12 PM

another thing,

merchant proccessing you still pay 3.9% + 5% rolling reserve

if you go with third party and do lots of signups you can get 10 - 12 % which is worth it more in the long run, because they cover the chargebacks and do not charge you for them

when you get a chargeback and you are your own merchant, it is quite costly.

you have to look at some of the big affiliate programs, they use third party for a reason, because it is more stable of a method for billing then doing it on their own.

you gotta think, if these extremely big affiliate companies could cut their costs, and get more agressive with their billing structures they would, but its just too damn risky to even dip your toes in!

Tipsy · 08-29-2002, 05:16 PM

I'm totally lost as to why soulcash billing would in any way increase the shave possibility. Whether or not he does or doesn't shave traffic has always initially gone to soulcash and not the 3rd party biller to start, so why is there now any more risk? What a strange notion. If the guy is going to shave he was certainly already doing it.

If you were happy with him before I'm totally confused why it should be any different now?

SixNine · 08-29-2002, 05:17 PM

Jimmy,
You can still promote SoulCash on the rev share and get payed directly by iBill just like it's always been... the new version even has the kewl CashTour'esque button that automatically logs you into iBill.

IThe best way to get ahold of me is to hit me on the toll free number that always has been, and still is, plastered on SoulCash.
L8,

SixNine

Gemini · 08-29-2002, 05:24 PM

I know for a fact that Sixnine shaves!! ALL of his pics show him PERFECTLY clean shaven!!

In so far as him cheating a webmaster kind of shaving... Its a shame that the reject will never do a US show... I'd pay for the airfare to watch those long fingers wrap around Rejects neck and toss him a few aisles over on the floor.

Reject, you say we're getting uptight over nothing? You just slammed the mans honesty just because he never answered your mail?! We KNOW Sixnine.

Ever think that maybe he didn't get it, or perhaps it got caught up in a filter?? I know we all have Soulcash's version 7 email filter to block email from Rejects. It must work well eh?!

TDF · 08-29-2002, 05:30 PM

Six9 is one of the very very few program directors who you can call anytime DIRECTLY and will help you with any problems with anything that has to do with SOULCASH. The man is all buisness so best believe he has done his research and has been around in this buisness and didnt get a good rep over night.He hooked up witha great content provider in Mike (Divine Content) and came up with a hot ass site in Chick Trick. IF you leave well that means more money for those who promote it but dont accuse someone of shaving when you have no proof..and that is your ass being served 101!!!NOt to mention he is BP4Life..u dont get in the fam for being a cheater

Rictor · 08-29-2002, 05:32 PM

What kind of niche are you looking for?

Sweet Cuties - Cute amateur teens

My White Teens - Interracial

Innocent Teens - More teen amateurs

Those are all CCBill programs, so is the one in my sig, which is the busty amateur niche.

Pornwolf · 08-29-2002, 05:46 PM

I'm glad Six Nine is reading because I have to admit I have had a problem with him before. I have to say that Six Nine was a cool guy up until this happened. I spoke with him on the phone before and he was always nice. I remember I even had a mix up with the payment processor and they wanted to make me jump through flaming hoops to get paid on one of my accounts. He took care of this as soon as I called him.

So after all that I figured he was staying true to what he said when he wrote he's always available to help webmasters. I see that isn't true. I went to Washington on business a couple of months ago. I decided to give him a call so we could discuss some things and maybe he could help with some content issues I had that I needed to deal with to promote Soulcash properly. I wasn't expecting the treatment I got 'cause I didn't have any serious problems. No payment issues. That was solved. I had great conversions, even with the free hosted galleries. I didn't even want to know about the traffic back option that's coming on Soulcash V 2.0. So I really wasn't expecting this from him this time.

I met him at his house and saw his driveway full of cars. That's great because all I needed was one of the Mercedes Benz's to take some pipmp'ish pictures of some whores I met. Sixnine wasn't cool with that. He was a true Playa Hata! He called my babes crack whores and said I could only use the 77 pinto he drove before he started Soul Cash.

I won't forget that Six Nine. That was so cold man. So cold.

JimmyReject · 08-29-2002, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini

In so far as him cheating a webmaster kind of shaving... Its a shame that the reject will never do a US show... I'd pay for the airfare to watch those long fingers wrap around Rejects neck and toss him a few aisles over on the floor.

Wany my paypal info so you can send the money or how about you just hook me up the ticket from Heathrow Airport.

Let me know when the next show is and i'll see you there since your paying.

JimmyReject · 08-29-2002, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixNine
Jimmy,
You can still promote SoulCash on the rev share and get payed directly by iBill just like it's always been... the new version even has the kewl CashTour'esque button that automatically logs you into iBill.

IThe best way to get ahold of me is to hit me on the toll free number that always has been, and still is, plastered on SoulCash.
L8,

SixNine

Thanks man. I'm sorry if i caused you any trouble. I never meant to. Your program rules i was just thrown out by you using your own processor.

My bad. I'm 100% in the wrong and deserve a red hot dildo up my ass. Hopefully you don't all wish death on me.

Lane · 08-29-2002, 06:16 PM

so lame...

Rex · 08-29-2002, 06:16 PM

Don't hate the playa hate the game

SixNine · 08-29-2002, 06:46 PM

JImmy,
What do you mean by "using my own processor"... I'm using Epoch, Jettis, and iBill and handling payouts in house, unless you want checks from 3 different processors, how wacked would that be?

No worries bro.

Plus...
I admire you for saying what you had to say... and getting your ass handed to you on a plate.

SoulCash will still be around putting a twist on porn whenever you feel like pushing it again.

hmmm... SoulBill

jimmy3way · 08-29-2002, 06:54 PM

Just to add to the testimonials:

I have met Big Brother Six Nine several times and he's as stand up a mo-fo as they come. Absolutely. Without a doubt, there are a lot of people this business could do without and Six' is not one of them.

Not to mention he's a hella snappy dresser.

Mike D · 08-29-2002, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JimmyReject

Thanks man. I'm sorry if i caused you any trouble. I never meant to. Your program rules i was just thrown out by you using your own processor.

My bad. I'm 100% in the wrong and deserve a red hot dildo up my ass. Hopefully you don't all wish death on me.

NO worries Jimmy its ALL good. If you or anyone else need help or have any questions about chicktrick or soulcash and cant reach sixnine, feel free to contact me anytime by e-mail [email protected] or ICQ 59325690

now lets make some $$$$

Mike...............

RedShoe · 08-29-2002, 08:20 PM

Sixnine, and MikeD are two of the most standup guys in the business.

No joke, I really look up to SixNine, (ok, ok, at six foot nine inches tall, we all look up to him), but you know what I mean.

He's as honest as they come. SixNine has offered help and advice more than any other webmaster I have ever talked to.

Even though Tanker gets credit for turning me out in this business. It's SixNine and Mike that will get credit for bringing me so far.

Mike gets credit for getting me a full time job in this industry.

Thanks Mike I owe you a buck!

And have the pleasure of having lunch with MikeD maybe 2 or 3 times a week. He keeps me laughing all through lunch. He's one funny guy.... but looks aren't everything.

Seriously. I trust SixNine and MikeD. They really are two of the nicest guys around.

SixNine

MikeD

RedShoe

SNOW · 08-29-2002, 08:57 PM

You fuck with six or mike you better fuck with me first.

I wish 1 percent of the people in this biz were like him.

JimmyReject · 08-30-2002, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SNOW
You fuck with six or mike you better fuck with me first.

I wish 1 percent of the people in this biz were like him.

Dude I wasn't trying to fuck with anyone and i've aplogised for my comments.

JimmyReject · 08-30-2002, 09:27 AM

I guess I can't use Mafia Bucks now. Damn.

[Labret] · 08-30-2002, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JimmyReject

Dude I wasn't trying to fuck with anyone and i've aplogised for my comments.

Never apologize to Snow. EVER. You did or said nothing wrong.

Fletch XXX · 08-30-2002, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SNOW
You fuck with six or mike you better fuck with me first.

I wish 1 percent of the people in this biz were like him.

It seems 1% ARE, or this thread wouldnt have been started. heheh

mrthumbs · 08-30-2002, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisManson

If you think that SixNine is capable of shaving you then you might as well get out of this business...'cause you'll never trust anyone.

I think YOU are in the wrong business..

ElvisManson · 08-30-2002, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrthumbs

I think YOU are in the wrong business..

I hope you'll excuse me if I don't have any respect for your opinion.

TDF · 08-30-2002, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisManson

I hope you'll excuse me if I don't have any respect for your opinion.

RedShoe · 08-30-2002, 11:03 AM

It's weird ElvisManson, looks like one of the most bad ass mo fo's ever, but he's really a nice guy. (Sorry to ruin the illusion)

On a side note...
ElvisManson, hit me up on ICQ I want to ask you about your band.

08-29-2002, 04:06 PM	#2
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08-29-2002, 04:27 PM	#6
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payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	Everybody seems nice at one point of time, trust very few and you will go very far in this business Shaving is natural, you should be use to it And don't finger point Sixnine if you don't have any proof, thats just whimpness __________________ <a href="http://www.techiemedia.com"><img src="http://banners.techiemedia.net/techie120.gif">

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08-29-2002, 04:04 PM	#1
JimmyReject Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 489	Soulcash changed so I new a new sponser I see SoulCash is now doing its own billing and thus now have $30 a signup etc which i refuse to do because of risk of shaving can you suggest some good sites which use third party billing. I'll miss chick trick.

08-29-2002, 04:23 PM	#4
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I've been waiting for Soulcash version 2.0! Six Nine has been getting it ready for a while. The add ons are going to be really nice from what I've heard. I'm glad you are not using them now so I can get the signups you might have gotten since I'm about to double my traffic to them! Now that Soulcash Version 2 is finished, all I want to see now is Adultcentro. Why do the best ideas take so long?

08-29-2002, 04:39 PM	#13
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	Yea, I have to agree...You have a better chance of a thrird party biller shaving you, than Sixnine....He's topnotch in my book! __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

08-29-2002, 04:39 PM	#14
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	Plus there are many benefits to running your own program and stats #1 you can have multi processors on the back end so you get more joins. if one scrubs the card to hard they bounce it to another. Plus what happens if Ibill or ccbill goes down for a day they don't lose any joins and neither do you. But then again what do i know

08-29-2002, 04:45 PM	#15
JimmyReject Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 489	I don't think SoulCash shave biut i've a policy of only using companies 3rd party billers. I'm sure SixNine is as honest as Jesus and The Pope combined and would never take a single $ off me. He is such a great guy i'm gonna name my children after him, even the girls. My point wasn't that he shaves because he doesn't. My point was I needed a new sponser. Me and my partnerc always said we'd only use 3rd party because of horror stories. sixnine = mr honest So guys stop bashing me, i'm not saying Soulcash shaves, they don't and never will. I just want a new sponser. Last edited by JimmyReject; 08-29-2002 at 04:46 PM..

08-29-2002, 04:53 PM	#17
JimmyReject Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 489	Sorry but DTA At least with a third party biller your 100% sure your check will come which means i get to pay the bills. Sixnine has never even spoken to me when i e-mailed him for advice on promoting his program so how the fuck am I meant to know how great a guy he is or not. You can only trust someone from experience and I have no experience with him. Sorry, you guys are getting all uptight over nothing.

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payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	"a person like SixNine has enough money that they don't need to shave" aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha ha nothing against sixnine, i just heard that quote so many times "blah blah has enough money dosen't need to shave" ROFL oh shit thats 2 funny __________________ <a href="http://www.techiemedia.com"><img src="http://banners.techiemedia.net/techie120.gif">

08-29-2002, 05:03 PM	#20
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	i don't personally know Sixnine, but I hear only good words from people I trust.....so if you start losing faith for such people then you shouldn't trust anyone. Lack of trust in this business will cause you problems. I'm not saying to be blind, but don't freak too. I'll tell you the following: I have a good quality source of traffic for a niche, i was using one of the FlyntDigital sites (which honestly they are awesome) but although it was the same niche it couldn't convert it at all. FD use jettis and they pay $30/trial. I switched to another big per signup sponsor that use their own billing and stats and instantly I doubled my profits. Last edited by Theo; 08-29-2002 at 05:04 PM..

08-29-2002, 05:04 PM	#21
JimmyReject Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 489	I'm so sorry, if anyone thinks i meant any harm you are wrong. I shouldn't of mentioned Soulcash as they are THE BEST sponser ever. I'm sorry please forgive me.

08-29-2002, 05:06 PM	#23
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08-29-2002, 05:08 PM	#25
payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	sixnine runs a solid program, and soulcash has my thumbs up all around switching to their own billing is extremely risky, and i will keep a close eye to see how he does just for my own information. you guys must understand that if anything were to happen he is the type of guy who would pay his affiliates no matter what. so thats a good thing. ibill, ccbill, etc. all have high fraud scrubs. to be honest though, i have done my own merchant billing myself and it seems worth it at the start, but then it really isn't. the credit card companies have it so they value the consumers word more then they do you, so when you run into problems your kind of screwed. doing your own merchant proccessing is fine and dandy if you have SEVERAL offshore merchant accounts rolling transactions through each one. then you have backup incase you lose an account (which will happen to you once every now and then). chargebacks in this business unfortunatley you can not dispute, even with AVS it is still hard to dispute a chargeback because the card holder did not physically sign for the purchase which is policy of the credit card companies. well its not so much of a policy, but, if you want to dispute a chargeback thats how you would dispute it, by saying look here i have this reciept with his signature on it, he did buy it. then you will be covered. is this a smart move for soul cash, i dont know, i hope so, but my advice is that doing your own merchant proccessing for adult paysites is EXTREMELY rough and should only be done if you have several offshore merchants, you see, in north america you have to keep under 1.5% but offshore you can go up to 3.5% - 4% chargeback rate which is more realistic for the adult business. either way, get set for a rocky road sixnine __________________ <a href="http://www.techiemedia.com"><img src="http://banners.techiemedia.net/techie120.gif">

08-29-2002, 05:11 PM	#26
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	All the pay per signup programs have a way of proving they don't shave...and none of them ever takes it.

08-29-2002, 05:12 PM	#27
payrollpete Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,527	another thing, merchant proccessing you still pay 3.9% + 5% rolling reserve if you go with third party and do lots of signups you can get 10 - 12 % which is worth it more in the long run, because they cover the chargebacks and do not charge you for them when you get a chargeback and you are your own merchant, it is quite costly. you have to look at some of the big affiliate programs, they use third party for a reason, because it is more stable of a method for billing then doing it on their own. you gotta think, if these extremely big affiliate companies could cut their costs, and get more agressive with their billing structures they would, but its just too damn risky to even dip your toes in! __________________ <a href="http://www.techiemedia.com"><img src="http://banners.techiemedia.net/techie120.gif">

08-29-2002, 05:16 PM	#28
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	I'm totally lost as to why soulcash billing would in any way increase the shave possibility. Whether or not he does or doesn't shave traffic has always initially gone to soulcash and not the 3rd party biller to start, so why is there now any more risk? What a strange notion. If the guy is going to shave he was certainly already doing it. If you were happy with him before I'm totally confused why it should be any different now? __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

08-29-2002, 05:17 PM	#29
SixNine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Sea Town Posts: 1,357	Jimmy, You can still promote SoulCash on the rev share and get payed directly by iBill just like it's always been... the new version even has the kewl CashTour'esque button that automatically logs you into iBill. IThe best way to get ahold of me is to hit me on the toll free number that always has been, and still is, plastered on SoulCash. L8, SixNine

08-29-2002, 05:24 PM	#30
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	I know for a fact that Sixnine shaves!! ALL of his pics show him PERFECTLY clean shaven!! In so far as him cheating a webmaster kind of shaving... Its a shame that the reject will never do a US show... I'd pay for the airfare to watch those long fingers wrap around Rejects neck and toss him a few aisles over on the floor. Reject, you say we're getting uptight over nothing? You just slammed the mans honesty just because he never answered your mail?! We KNOW Sixnine. Ever think that maybe he didn't get it, or perhaps it got caught up in a filter?? I know we all have Soulcash's version 7 email filter to block email from Rejects. It must work well eh?!

08-29-2002, 05:30 PM	#31
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	Six9 is one of the very very few program directors who you can call anytime DIRECTLY and will help you with any problems with anything that has to do with SOULCASH. The man is all buisness so best believe he has done his research and has been around in this buisness and didnt get a good rep over night.He hooked up witha great content provider in Mike (Divine Content) and came up with a hot ass site in Chick Trick. IF you leave well that means more money for those who promote it but dont accuse someone of shaving when you have no proof..and that is your ass being served 101!!!NOt to mention he is BP4Life..u dont get in the fam for being a cheater __________________ Sig heil Last edited by toodamnfli; 08-29-2002 at 05:36 PM..

08-29-2002, 05:32 PM	#32
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	What kind of niche are you looking for? Sweet Cuties - Cute amateur teens My White Teens - Interracial Innocent Teens - More teen amateurs Those are all CCBill programs, so is the one in my sig, which is the busty amateur niche.

08-29-2002, 05:46 PM	#33
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I'm glad Six Nine is reading because I have to admit I have had a problem with him before. I have to say that Six Nine was a cool guy up until this happened. I spoke with him on the phone before and he was always nice. I remember I even had a mix up with the payment processor and they wanted to make me jump through flaming hoops to get paid on one of my accounts. He took care of this as soon as I called him. So after all that I figured he was staying true to what he said when he wrote he's always available to help webmasters. I see that isn't true. I went to Washington on business a couple of months ago. I decided to give him a call so we could discuss some things and maybe he could help with some content issues I had that I needed to deal with to promote Soulcash properly. I wasn't expecting the treatment I got 'cause I didn't have any serious problems. No payment issues. That was solved. I had great conversions, even with the free hosted galleries. I didn't even want to know about the traffic back option that's coming on Soulcash V 2.0. So I really wasn't expecting this from him this time. I met him at his house and saw his driveway full of cars. That's great because all I needed was one of the Mercedes Benz's to take some pipmp'ish pictures of some whores I met. Sixnine wasn't cool with that. He was a true Playa Hata! He called my babes crack whores and said I could only use the 77 pinto he drove before he started Soul Cash. I won't forget that Six Nine. That was so cold man. So cold. Last edited by Pornwolf; 08-29-2002 at 05:48 PM..

08-29-2002, 06:16 PM	#36
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	so lame... __________________

08-29-2002, 06:16 PM	#37
Rex Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: ohio Posts: 2,241	Don't hate the playa hate the game __________________ I don't own RexMag anymore.

08-29-2002, 06:46 PM	#38
SixNine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Sea Town Posts: 1,357	JImmy, What do you mean by "using my own processor"... I'm using Epoch, Jettis, and iBill and handling payouts in house, unless you want checks from 3 different processors, how wacked would that be? No worries bro. Plus... I admire you for saying what you had to say... and getting your ass handed to you on a plate. SoulCash will still be around putting a twist on porn whenever you feel like pushing it again. hmmm... SoulBill

08-29-2002, 06:54 PM	#39
jimmy3way Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Top Secret Hideout Posts: 2,508	Just to add to the testimonials: I have met Big Brother Six Nine several times and he's as stand up a mo-fo as they come. Absolutely. Without a doubt, there are a lot of people this business could do without and Six' is not one of them. Not to mention he's a hella snappy dresser. __________________ One thing, I forgot this last detail: the Biz Markie will always prevail.

08-29-2002, 08:20 PM	#41
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	Sixnine, and MikeD are two of the most standup guys in the business. No joke, I really look up to SixNine, (ok, ok, at six foot nine inches tall, we all look up to him), but you know what I mean. He's as honest as they come. SixNine has offered help and advice more than any other webmaster I have ever talked to. Even though Tanker gets credit for turning me out in this business. It's SixNine and Mike that will get credit for bringing me so far. Mike gets credit for getting me a full time job in this industry. Thanks Mike I owe you a buck! And have the pleasure of having lunch with MikeD maybe 2 or 3 times a week. He keeps me laughing all through lunch. He's one funny guy.... but looks aren't everything. Seriously. I trust SixNine and MikeD. They really are two of the nicest guys around. SixNine MikeD RedShoe __________________ SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX Superheroes • Monsters • Robots PM for details For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise. aka BonsHigh on Insta Bonsai weed plants Last edited by RedShoe; 08-29-2002 at 08:26 PM..

08-29-2002, 08:57 PM	#42
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	You fuck with six or mike you better fuck with me first. I wish 1 percent of the people in this biz were like him.

08-30-2002, 09:27 AM	#44
JimmyReject Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 489	I guess I can't use Mafia Bucks now. Damn.

08-30-2002, 11:03 AM	#50
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	It's weird ElvisManson, looks like one of the most bad ass mo fo's ever, but he's really a nice guy. (Sorry to ruin the illusion) On a side note... ElvisManson, hit me up on ICQ I want to ask you about your band. __________________ SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX Superheroes • Monsters • Robots PM for details For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise. aka BonsHigh on Insta Bonsai weed plants