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Old 06-05-2007, 04:28 PM   #1
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USA dropping nukes soon?

is anyone watching this insanity called the Republican debate?

these fuckers are actually considering using tactical nukes

against Iran? please, can we say overkill?
you have more than enough conventional weapons to level Iran if you really would want to, using a nuke WILL start WO III

when will this macho cowboy bullshit stop?
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Old 06-05-2007, 04:30 PM   #2
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when will this macho cowboy bullshit stop?
right around the time cockroaches take over the world
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Old 06-05-2007, 04:37 PM   #3
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No. They are just boasting. Nobody will let any President Drop a nuke in this day and age.
They are just reminding them that they are 50 years behind the times, and we can send them back into the stone age in about 15 hours.

The Republicans don't have a whole lot of cards to play right now.
Although they did say that the day of recogning is upon Israel, and the wheels are already in motion for the total destruction of the Jews in the Mid east.
If it comes down to it.....I gotta say, "Bye, Bye, Iran. Fuck 'em!

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No. They are just boasting. Nobody will let any President Drop a nuke in this day and age.
1. wish I could believe some of these people aren't that nuts
2. who will stop them? Bush and co are trying to have small tactical nukes be classified as conventional weapons

don't forget: born again christians look forward to the Apocalyps and the majority believes they will see it in their lifetime after the whore of Babylon is slain, wait whore of Babylon wasn't that Saddam???
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wasnt there a tactical nuke that went off already in Iraq?

or afgahn one of them anyway
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctrin...ear_Operations

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The doctrine cites 8 reasons under which field commanders can ask for permission to use nuclear weapons:

An enemy using or threatening to use WMD against US, multinational, or alliance forces or civilian populations.
To prevent an imminent biological attack.
To attack enemy WMD or its deep hardened bunkers containing WMD that could be used to target US or its allies.
To stop potentially overwhelming conventional enemy forces.
To rapidly end a war on favorable US terms.
To make sure US and international operations are successful.
To show US intent and capability to use nuclear weapons to deter enemy from using WMDs.
To react to enemy-supplied WMD use by proxies against US and international forces or civilians
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The situation with Russia is what worries me......Putin isnt happy at all
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RON PAUL 2008!!! Listen to this guy talk about oil, man he is so right, everyone listen
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Old 06-05-2007, 04:57 PM   #9
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RON PAUL 2008!!! Listen to this guy talk about oil, man he is so right, everyone listen
agree on some stuff with him, not on social issues

BUT the difference between him and the rest is that he has a consistent philosophy on things, he doesn't use the religious argument that basically let you do whatever you want
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you guys are going to have another 4 years to whine. hahaha
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it's kinda funny that in the most free country in the world, you can't be open about your sexuality in the army, most other Western countries have no problem with it
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haha putting Bush on a lecture circuit for the youths about integrity and honesty
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agree on some stuff with him, not on social issues

BUT the difference between him and the rest is that he has a consistent philosophy on things, he doesn't use the religious argument that basically let you do whatever you want
A man of his word. You know what you are going to get with him, and it is mostly good.

(sorry for the thread jack)
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will Ron Paul have the balls and say he will ask for an investigation into all the Bush bullshit?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctrin...ear_Operations

The doctrine cites 8 reasons under which field commanders can ask for permission to use nuclear weapons:

An enemy using or threatening to use WMD against US, multinational, or alliance forces or civilian populations.
To prevent an imminent biological attack.
To attack enemy WMD or its deep hardened bunkers containing WMD that could be used to target US or its allies.
To stop potentially overwhelming conventional enemy forces.
To rapidly end a war on favorable US terms.
To make sure US and international operations are successful.
To show US intent and capability to use nuclear weapons to deter enemy from using WMDs.
To react to enemy-supplied WMD use by proxies against US and international forces or civilians

To make sure US and international operations are successful.

oh, that's a good one.
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how do you know it will end?
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isn't divulging the identity of a secret agent treason?

isn't 30 months okay for treason? they're saying it's too severe

these guys are a joke and not one who stands up to the current madness
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will Ron Paul have the balls and say he will ask for an investigation into all the Bush bullshit?
If he gets the Rep nom I am sure he will. Not until then though.
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isn't 30 months okay for treason?

these guys are a joke and not one who stands up to the current madness
Agreed, nice yes or fucking no answers.....top three spoke for like 20 seconds each on the issue....booo
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great question about Spanish drugs

and they lie off course, the reason why it's so cheap there and in most of Europe is because it's state run, hardly anyone here has private insurance

fucking liars
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followup: hopefully we'll apply the Kiwi model soon, where the government can drive down the price of presciption drugs even more


in Belgium we already have a maximum bill
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and they lie off course, the reason why it's so cheap there and in most of Europe is because it's state run, hardly anyone here has private insurance

fucking liars
Take out all insurance and meds would be dirt cheap. We dont need mre insurance we need less, then the market would be forced to fit into what people can afford. Why do you think McD's dollar menu is so popular?
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how do you go from abortion to suicide bombers??????????

we're pro choice, even the christians wouldn't dare changing the abortion rights, but can't think of any suicide bomber
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go RON PAUL (about pre-emptive war)
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I watched the dems yesterday ( main focus : faith ) and the republicans tonight ... and I really think that if I watched an Iranian debate, it would contain less religion bs ...

What the fuck is happening with the US .... Are you going back to the caveman era ????
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The more I see of him the more I cheer.
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liar: bilingual countries don't work

euh, yes you're correct Switzerland for one is a real mess (they are actually trilingual)

not saying US should become bilingual, but stop lying
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euh, yes you're correct Switzerland for one is a real mess (they are actually trilingual)

not saying US should become bilingual, but stop lying
Only one telling the truth RON PAUL! woot
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I watched the dems yesterday ( main focus : faith ) and the republicans tonight ... and I really think that if I watched an Iranian debate, it would contain less religion bs ...

What the fuck is happening with the US .... Are you going back to the caveman era ????
I'm afraid so

think the Founding Fathers would be ashamed of all this religion mixed in with politics, welcome the theocracy
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is anyone watching this insanity called the Republican debate?

these fuckers are actually considering using tactical nukes

against Iran? please, can we say overkill?
you have more than enough conventional weapons to level Iran if you really would want to, using a nuke WILL start WO III

when will this macho cowboy bullshit stop?
The President of Iran has publically stated that they will not rest until they destroy Isreal. I see no reason why a preemptive strike with tactical nukes to teach them a lesson isn't both valid and legal.

In fact, I believe Congress approved a document called NS 2002 which partially states.....

"Given the goals of rogue states and terrorists, the United States can no longer rely on a reactive posture..... The inablity ti deter a potential attacker, the immedicay of today's threats, and the magnitude of potential harm that could be caused by our adversaries' choice of weapons, do not permit that option. We cannot let our enemies strike first"

(not that I copied that from hand from a book, not cut an paste)

Seems to me like we can strike anyone for any reason at any time.

Perhaps we should. It would start teaching people a lesson. I'm guessing the terrorists would find it most difficult to operate when they have radiation sickness. At the very least it would make watching the news on TV much more interesting.

Everyone should thank God I don't work in the White House.
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"Bush government as a liberal"

oh please, is there really no scrupuls left?

principels? these people have none, except Paul
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oh please, is there really no scrupuls left?

principels? these people have none, except Paul
Why can people not see this? I mean if you watch CNN during the day you would think only 3 people were running or the Rep Nom
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Seems to me like we can strike anyone for any reason at any time.
You are sick ...

On the other hand, it also applies to other states : they can strike USA for any reason and at anytime....
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You are sick ...

On the other hand, it also applies to other states : they can strike USA for any reason and at anytime....
Sadly they dont need to be States anymore.
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The President of Iran has publically stated that they will not rest until they destroy Isreal. I see no reason why a preemptive strike with tactical nukes to teach them a lesson isn't both valid and legal.

In fact, I believe Congress approved a document called NS 2002 which partially states.....

"Given the goals of rogue states and terrorists, the United States can no longer rely on a reactive posture..... The inablity ti deter a potential attacker, the immedicay of today's threats, and the magnitude of potential harm that could be caused by our adversaries' choice of weapons, do not permit that option. We cannot let our enemies strike first"

(not that I copied that from hand from a book, not cut an paste)

Seems to me like we can strike anyone for any reason at any time.

Perhaps we should. It would start teaching people a lesson. I'm guessing the terrorists would find it most difficult to operate when they have radiation sickness. At the very least it would make watching the news on TV much more interesting.

Everyone should thank God I don't work in the White House.
1. Bush had threatened a few countries of his own, although they never threatened the US, do they also have to nuke you now?
2. if you can't see the difference between postering and acting, it will be a crazy world out there
3. since when is Israël a part of the US?
4. what has to be perfectly clear to anyone by now is that probably most in Guantanamo are innocent, have they or their native countries the right to nuke the US?
5.you can strike anyone for whatever reason? what do you people get pumped into your head?
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what a crock of shit! See how CNN let the top three have a final word? SERIOUSLY WTF?
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Sadly they dont need to be States anymore.
got a good point there
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It's the Republican primary. They all know they really can't win without the support of the conservative christian right so they are all trying to out conservative each other to get the nomination.
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I think a lot of the Founding Fathers, who were intelligent, educated, people induced by French Enlightenment, humanistic democratic values, if they saw the level of this debate, I think they would go "what the hell went wrong ????"

this was truely car salesman level, wouldn't it be a good thing to elect the most wise person you can find, not the one who you want to have a beer with
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The President of Iran has publically stated that they will not rest until they destroy Isreal. I see no reason why a preemptive strike with tactical nukes to teach them a lesson isn't both valid and legal.

In fact, I believe Congress approved a document called NS 2002 which partially states.....

"Given the goals of rogue states and terrorists, the United States can no longer rely on a reactive posture..... The inablity ti deter a potential attacker, the immedicay of today's threats, and the magnitude of potential harm that could be caused by our adversaries' choice of weapons, do not permit that option. We cannot let our enemies strike first"

(not that I copied that from hand from a book, not cut an paste)

Seems to me like we can strike anyone for any reason at any time.

Perhaps we should. It would start teaching people a lesson. I'm guessing the terrorists would find it most difficult to operate when they have radiation sickness. At the very least it would make watching the news on TV much more interesting.

Everyone should thank God I don't work in the White House.
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3. since when is Israël a part of the US?
I'm not gonna answer all of your questions because you guys are taking me way too serously.

What percentage of all foreign aid goes to Israel? Do you honestly believe that if Iran nuked Israel we are fire back with our own nukes in hours?
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Old 06-05-2007, 08:20 PM   #46
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I think a lot of the Founding Fathers, who were intelligent, educated, people induced by French Enlightenment, humanistic democratic values, if they saw the level of this debate, I think they would go "what the hell went wrong ????"

this was truely car salesman level, wouldn't it be a good thing to elect the most wise person you can find, not the one who you want to have a beer with
what a clueless clown.
please stop reading and regurgitating whatever leftist horshit passes for Amerian history in the shit hole you call home.
The America of the founding fathers was far more religious than what we have today.
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Old 06-05-2007, 08:34 PM   #47
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No. They are just boasting. Nobody will let any President Drop a nuke in this day and age.
The president doesn't need permission or for anyone to 'let him' drop a nuke. He can launch whenever he damn well pleases, it is his decision alone to make.


As far as the Iran situation goes, we're getting what we deserve on that front.
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:15 PM   #48
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The situation with Russia is what worries me......Putin isnt happy at all
Nor should he be. OMG this thing with Russia is a huge deal and quite frankly I am pissed off myself . We are letting this president take away our liberties our freedoms and our say ... and we are committing treason if we say so. WTF ... There is evidence all around us if you look and I am telling ya we got deep shit happening here. Does anyone truly believe that Russia has not got new technology for nuclear offense and what is up with this China thing. No offense meant to any citizens in any country because I know we don't all hate each other. US over here have no clue all this crap is happening because our networks don't report the real serious shit, and what they do report most of us are too busy to digest its full seriousness or put the pieces together. Check out the government website on oversight. Read up on the facts that are going on in our own government and tell me there is not an agenda that clearly does not have our best interests at the center. We are stupid to sit back and let this happen. but if the GAO won't take on the oval office aint nobody else going to. We are Fucked!!

And whatever happened to the treaty that prohibits the use of mass destruction warheads let alone the manufacturing of and launch facilities created? Why are we building a launch site in Europe if we are under the United Nations agreement? Are we actually breaking that treaty? Correct me if I am wrong but I thought we as a world decided long ago never to allow that type of weapon into reality at least in site of anyone ..lol

I totally believe that the Russian president has been a pillar of democracy and believes it is working very well. I totally believe that he is honest and forth coming and this truly is a smack right in the face to all they have done and given openly and publicly. You know changing from communistic to democratic had to be hard for them to do and they sucked it up and did it and its working for them. What do we do but rub salt in the wounds. Clearly they have every right to be upset and down right hostile. I would be livid. Perhaps I am not seeing something right and I welcome any and all education as long as its fact and not bullshit. Help me to see how these things are happening... we will all pay dearly all of us in the world will end up suffering over shit like this.

Have you seen what is happening in space lately? God help us!
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:34 PM   #49
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Debates dont really matter, cause Fred Thomspon will be the Republican nominee, and win the election.
Seriously people we need to get educated ... the elections as they are currently being handled are in no way shape or form fair and accurate. Easily fixed and that is not even debatable it is a proven fact. As long as there are touch screens or computer interface terminals the results can be manipulated at virtually any level and avoid detection at least without serious scrutiny and in most cases not detectable. Don't believe it see for yourself at http://oversight.house.gov/investigations.asp?ID=117

If you think the people will see who they want as president i am afraid without serious changes on pennslvania ave and soon we are living in a fantasy land. This is how serious we have been duped ladies and gents.

There is a good video out on google i believe that shows exactly how it is done and how seriously unprepared we are to have the possibility of a fair election. With it only being a lil over a year away it is very unlikely we will have the time even if the best case scenario was upon us.
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:58 PM   #50
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I watched some debate highlights on CNN... the dems and republicans are both fucking nuts. Most of them should be committed. People admit to hearing voices and being guided by god and you want to put them in charge of a country???

Crazy...
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