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dinkz · 08-26-2002, 04:42 PM

Is there any sponsor out there that can charge the buyer through Cellphone SMS's?

I'm just curious..

Dax · 08-26-2002, 06:33 PM

That seems to be big and popular in Europe....

dinkz · 08-27-2002, 04:13 AM

Yeah, it is... that's why i wonder if anyone has thought of it in the states.. Is there anyone who has tried it?

dinkz · 08-27-2002, 04:44 AM

It works well in sweden atleast... but i guess it would be hard to charge big amounts of money.. as no one want's a sms for $30?

pipp · 08-27-2002, 05:49 AM

It works. It is used widly in scandinavia. But the largest amounth for 1 transaction any provider off theses solution would carge is 30.0 NOK (4$) non recurring. I dont find it worth the time unless you put somthing like this in front off a tgp and charge surfers this to view the tgp for like 1 week. hmm pay tgp did I just give out an idea??? hmm ??? Awwwh I lost it what was I talking about again ?

dikkechill · 08-27-2002, 06:33 AM

Sms revenue

we can charge people in the UK, The Netherlands and Spain. You can use our paysites or promote your own.

cya
Dikkechill

Jakke PNG · 08-27-2002, 08:19 AM

I will have it soon. 5?/day's access preview.
if they wanna join then they gotta pull out the CC..
I haven't found a way to do an affiliate way for sms yet though.

ServerGenius · 08-27-2002, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dikkechill
Sms revenue

we can charge people in the UK, The Netherlands and Spain. You can use our paysites or promote your own.

cya
Dikkechill

I heard there were problems collecting.....especially prepay cards
can't be billed....I don't know if it's true....so please enlighten me.

Oh and while you're at it.....post some cost AND Payout rates

DynaMite

ServerGenius · 08-27-2002, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
I will have it soon. 5?/day's access preview.
if they wanna join then they gotta pull out the CC..
I haven't found a way to do an affiliate way for sms yet though.

Have them send the affilcode in the smstext?

DynaMite

dinkz · 08-27-2002, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DynaSpain

I heard there were problems collecting.....especially prepay cards
can't be billed....I don't know if it's true....so please enlighten me.

Oh and while you're at it.....post some cost AND Payout rates

DynaMite

In sweden there's no problem with prepay cards... no problems at all

Maybe someting like a fee per gallery could be something?
Like "Get these 5 imagesets for only $2!"

Could that possibly work?

jonnax · 08-27-2002, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dinkz

Maybe someting like a fee per gallery could be something?
Like "Get these 5 imagesets for only $2!"

Could that possibly work?

At least here in Finland it works

here is one examplelink how it´s done here

http://www.sihteeriopisto.net/sivut/...vagalleria.php

dikkechill · 08-27-2002, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DynaSpain

I heard there were problems collecting.....especially prepay cards
can't be billed....I don't know if it's true....so please enlighten me.

Oh and while you're at it.....post some cost AND Payout rates

DynaMite

There is one problem with prepaid cards. When the credit on the prepaid card is lower then the recurring charge, the phone can't be billed.

Bill rates recurring on a daily basis (all amount are in UK pounds, the $ are off course fluctating on the market)

UK Charged at : £1:50 ($ 2.4 )
Spain charged at £1:04 ($ 1.66)
Netherlands charged at : £1:10 ($ 1.76)

Paid amount to webmaster:

UK
Vodafone : £0.68 ($1.09 )
02 : £0.68 ($1.09 )
T-Mobile : £0.55 ($0.88 )
Orange : £0.54 ($0.86 )

Spain
Telefonica : £0.39 ($0.62
Amena : £0.27 ($0.43)
Vodafone : £0.22 ($0.35)

Netherlands
KPN : £0.35 ($0.56)
Ben : £0.34 ($0.54)
Libertel : £0.17 ($0.27)

This are the rates at this moment

cya
Dikkechill

richard · 08-27-2002, 03:15 PM

DynaSpain:

If you have a prepay phone (pay as you go), you can have $0 credit, and still get a membership.

You cannot collect from them if they have a $0 balance.

I believe current programs factor this into their outpayments.

Richard.

dinkz · 08-27-2002, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jonnax

At least here in Finland it works

here is one examplelink how it´s done here

http://www.sihteeriopisto.net/sivut/...vagalleria.php

Is it your gallery? If it is, does it convert well?
It seems like a great way to charge by SMS!

ServerGenius · 08-27-2002, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by richard
DynaSpain:

If you have a prepay phone (pay as you go), you can have $0 credit, and still get a membership.

You cannot collect from them if they have a $0 balance.

I believe current programs factor this into their outpayments.

Richard.

This is what I meant....how about relaying sms services.....I send
sms to operator by phone/internet and operator is relaying sms?
You can't bill those either.

Another problem I see is collecting the money with all the different
operators.....Really I hope this will get better since I'm for sure
interested in it....but I have heard some horror stories already
from reliable persons....so forgive me my concerns and sceptism.

DynaMite

ServerGenius · 08-27-2002, 03:51 PM

A few more questions....what's the payout schedule....
Are there any holdbacks....?

DynaMite

dikkechill · 08-28-2002, 02:45 AM

August 16th to 31st : October 15th
September 1st to 15th : November 1st
September 16th to 30th : November 15th
October 1st to 15th : December 1st
October 16th to 31st : December 15th
November 1st to 15th : January 1st
November 16th to 30th : January 15th
December 1st to 15th : February 1st
December 16th to 31st : Februrary 15th

this are the payout dates for 2002

cya
Dikkechill

.:Frog:. · 08-28-2002, 04:11 AM

I read somewhere that the % of cell phone users in the USA was way lower then in Asia & Europe.

miob · 08-28-2002, 05:52 AM

yeah that's right, in europe is more users with mobile phone like USA, i tried to sms-reverse.com and i've got very good results, i think this could works much better like SU sponsors,
I've got two users and they both tooks membership for 30 days,
there is very hard to collect those members, but if You get one member, this member is worth more than classic signup, i think a lot of sponsors could arrange this opportunity to their paysites, it would be awesome to offer memberships also through this way,
we could earn at least half more...

Screwed Up · 08-29-2002, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dikkechill

Bill rates recurring on a daily basis (all amount are in UK pounds, the $ are off course fluctating on the market)

UK Charged at : £1:50 ($ 2.4 )
Spain charged at £1:04 ($ 1.66)
Netherlands charged at : £1:10 ($ 1.76)

Paid amount to webmaster:

UK
Vodafone : £0.68 ($1.09 )
02 : £0.68 ($1.09 )
T-Mobile : £0.55 ($0.88 )
Orange : £0.54 ($0.86 )

Spain
Telefonica : £0.39 ($0.62
Amena : £0.27 ($0.43)
Vodafone : £0.22 ($0.35)

Netherlands
KPN : £0.35 ($0.56)
Ben : £0.34 ($0.54)
Libertel : £0.17 ($0.27)

This are the rates at this moment

cya
Dikkechill

You missed. The Spain and Netherlands End User Charge can't be in UK Pounds. It's in EURO.
And Belgium rates are available as well according to volume (SMS messages per month)
If you have a really big website or webmaster program, these rates are subject to change (READ: more money).
Feel free to ask me anything on ICQ: 159325637

Here are my new rates:
UK End User Charge Inc. VAT: £1:50
(£1.00 £1.20 also possible)
Spain End User Charge Inc. VAT: ?1.04
Netherlands End User Charge Inc. VAT: ?1.10

UK Webmaster Payout
Vodafone : £0.69
BTCellnet (O2) : £0.69
One to One (T-Mobile) : £0.56
Orange : £0.55

Spain Webmaster Payout
Telefonica Moviles Movistar : ?0.42
Amena : ?0.31
Airtel Movil (Vodafone) : ?0.26

Netherlands Webmaster Payout
KPN Telecom : ?0.38
Ben : ?0.37
Libertel : ?0.21

At the moment ? and $ are almost equal. Today it's $0.99 for ?1. Tomorrow it can be the other way around.

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08-27-2002, 04:44 AM	#4
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08-27-2002, 06:33 AM	#6
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08-27-2002, 08:19 AM	#7
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	I will have it soon. 5?/day's access preview. if they wanna join then they gotta pull out the CC.. I haven't found a way to do an affiliate way for sms yet though. __________________ ..and I'm off.

08-26-2002, 06:33 PM	#2
Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	That seems to be big and popular in Europe....

08-27-2002, 05:49 AM	#5
pipp Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Where the sun don't shine Posts: 1,185	It works. It is used widly in scandinavia. But the largest amounth for 1 transaction any provider off theses solution would carge is 30.0 NOK (4$) non recurring. I dont find it worth the time unless you put somthing like this in front off a tgp and charge surfers this to view the tgp for like 1 week. hmm pay tgp did I just give out an idea??? hmm ??? Awwwh I lost it what was I talking about again ?

08-27-2002, 03:15 PM	#13
richard Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: UK Posts: 543	DynaSpain: If you have a prepay phone (pay as you go), you can have $0 credit, and still get a membership. You cannot collect from them if they have a $0 balance. I believe current programs factor this into their outpayments. Richard. __________________

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08-28-2002, 02:45 AM	#17
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08-28-2002, 04:11 AM	#18
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