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Old 06-02-2007, 08:26 PM   #51
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Old 06-02-2007, 10:33 PM   #52
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Uh yeah because the average user is going to put freebsd on their desktop
http://pcbsd.org/

there is one other package of this out there somewhere (desktopbsd?) -- neither worked well on one of my spare boxes but Ubuntu jammed on it...so debian linux it is

and the bsd community makes gfy look like a bunch of fucking free loving hippies...they're so fast to tell you to fuck off and RTFM it'll make your head spin...whereas the Ubuntu crowd respects the medication regimine that their doctors prescribed and are much more palatable in a social/helpful sense...
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Old 06-02-2007, 10:34 PM   #53
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Google how to make your Photoshop CS2 "portable" (as if going to put it on a USB key) ...

Portable CS2 installs via WINE effortlessly and works perfectly!

I've been using CS2 as well as Dreamweaver 8 in Ubuntu for months now
dammit, now I'm going to spend another hour or two tomorrow trying to get this done on my Feisty box ;P
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:17 PM   #54
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dammit, now I'm going to spend another hour or two tomorrow trying to get this done on my Feisty box ;P
It is rather easy .... I am on UbuntuStudio (Feisty) but I installed it while I was still using Edgy

This may point you in the right direction:
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:27 PM   #55
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I had a dual boot on my system, Windows/Ubuntu for quite awhile. Then one night I went to bed and my system was running fine. Woke up the next morning to a complete nightmare. Some virus slipped through the cracks and caused all kinds of hell. I couldn't even boot back into Windows. Lost all kinds of data. It was just hell. After that mess, I've been 100% Ubuntu.

Every program that I use on a daily basis, except one - (Advance Submitter), I have running on Linux. No way in hell am I ever switching my main machine back to Windows.
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It is rather easy .... I am on UbuntuStudio (Feisty) but I installed it while I was still using Edgy

This may point you in the right direction:
http://26bits.com/2007/photoshop-cs2-on-linux-ubuntu/
Thanks maing...but I'm more interested in the DW issue -- I don't use PS really -- I'm not much of a graphics guy and for what I need I use Gimp or PSP...

DW however I use at least a few times a day.
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Damn, its been years since I've used a linux distro on a main comp in a dual/multi boot setup. Maybe I'll toss it on a partition and give it a go.
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Old 06-03-2007, 05:18 AM   #59
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running windows applications on Linux is kinda having sex in a rubber suit
It's better to buy a mac and get a unix based OS with all applications you use daily. But newer Macs have lots of incompatibilities with older software and a user has to use emulation to run them.

Though unix based OS's are secure, they still suck.
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Old 06-03-2007, 08:10 AM   #60
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Im running Fedora Core 6 on my Dell 1501 with XP. The dual booting was no real problem. Getting the wireless to work was a challenge but, I got it. Crossover made it possible to run almost all Windows Apps on here.

I really like Fedora.
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:24 AM   #61
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:53 AM   #62
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I decided to redo my Media Server yesterday and installed Ubuntu. Loving it so far.

Just downloaded Ubuntu Studio to see how it works on a video editing box.
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:13 AM   #63
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Which version of linux has the filesystem that doesnt fragment the files?
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Old 08-10-2007, 05:07 PM   #64
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:08 PM   #65
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I tried PC Linux OS on my laptop and my wireless wouldn't work right away. I put Ubuntu on it and my wireless connected right away, so that was really nice. Although, I spent 2 nights messing around trying to get Unbuntu to my windows shares and just ended up putting XP back on it.

Is there a way to connect to a windows workgroup, from ubuntu, or is that a stupid question?
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:17 PM   #66
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I prefer Mepis live CD (Debian based) everything just works
I clicked on the install icon on the desktop and It found everything during the install. Networking with the windoze machines was a breeze with Smbk4.
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Gentoo or Ubuntu !

Ubuntu and Gentoo are nice OSes, however the 64 bit versions with the SLI support kind of sucked or is not supported... However I had tried only a few months back to put such on my amd X2 and I was a little disappointed...

I'm finding Vista 64 bit version is very stable and can play some games like Unreal Tournament 2004 ... etc... however there are still many games it cannot play...

If your not playing windows video games then I would suggest everyone run either Gentoo or Ubuntu !

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Old 08-10-2007, 09:56 PM   #69
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Best comment on newer versions of windows.

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Does Ubuntu works with adult webmaster softwares like Dreamweaver, CuteFTP etc.?
How on earth you label dreamweaver and CuteFTP as adult webmaster softwares?
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How on earth you label dreamweaver and CuteFTP as adult webmaster softwares?
Thats pretty funny...

I have Dreamweaver MX and Photoshop CS running under Fedora. I used Crossover Office to make that happen.http://wwwcodewavers.com. For FTPing, Im using gFTP http://gftp.seul.org/. Works alot like CuteFTP.
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How on earth you label dreamweaver and CuteFTP as adult webmaster softwares?
LoL at that shit
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I like Ubuntu too but I have to run Windows since Visual Basic is the only programming language I know really well. And I like to automate things. I don't really have time to learn another one. (I'm lazy)
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I have xp and ubuntu also.Ubuntu rocks.Also there is ubuntu server version which works fine on oc3networks.com.
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I won't buy a new laptop or desktop from any store because they fuckin jam that piece of crap system on it.

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My desktop at home is running Ubuntu and it's so much better then winblows.

I refuse to upgrade to Vista... every new version is just more of a memory and resource hog filled with errors.

There is no reason to switch to Vista. The OS doesn't have any features we need other then DX10, which doesn't matter until games support it. Hardware and software apps support is not great and the integrated drm sucks
Totally agree, but why Ubuntu, why not XP?
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If you're curious about Ubuntu, but never heard of it, never tried it, etc.. Give you a tip! It's super easy (within windows!) to go to the Ubuntu site, download the Live CD, and boot from the disc. No HD installation necessary, it will load the OS and you can click around and do most things before deciding to install it on a partition or another machine or whatever. Neat way to blow an hour anyways.

I haven't gotten the balls up to overwrite my main OS yet, but I have enough parts for a spare PC here, so I think I'll try it on there very soon
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I like Ubuntu and Linspire. I always thought Wine could only run select Windows applications. If it can indeed run almost everything, then maybe I'll do more with Linux than just mess around with it.

With this Wine program, how do the Windows applications install in Linux? Does that handle this, or do you just start them off the Windows partition?
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Can somebody please comment on the general linux desktop speed and snappiness? I tried SuSE linux a couple years ago and found it to be a little slow. Loading a browser took like 10 seconds. Everything seemed real slow, even dragging a window.

How are the new distributions doing on the current higher end hardware? Are things fast now, i.e. starting FF, moving windows, starting a text editor etc.

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Which version of linux has the filesystem that doesnt fragment the files?
Most Linux file systems fragment the file system on purpose. It is designed to be fast, in spite of fragmentation. You never have to defrag linux file systems (speaking of ext2 and ext3 specifically.

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Can somebody please comment on the general linux desktop speed and snappiness? I tried SuSE linux a couple years ago and found it to be a little slow. Loading a browser took like 10 seconds. Everything seemed real slow, even dragging a window.

How are the new distributions doing on the current higher end hardware? Are things fast now, i.e. starting FF, moving windows, starting a text editor etc.

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That really all depends on your video card. If you want video cards that work well with linux, avoid ATI products at all costs, and buy Nvidia or Intel. If you have a well supported card, it should be just as snappy as any other OS.
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Ubuntu and Kubuntu aren't that bad.....it's basically just a pimped up version
of debian.......I'm not a big fan of ubuntu myself......but then again I haven't
played with it enough to really start to like it.........I work all day with unix yet
on my workstation and laptop I run XP.......simply coz it's a lot more compatible
with almost every desktop app than linux........I know you can get almost
everything done that you can on windows.....but half the time that means
you can run non linux stuff on a linux system........and that's never an
improvement....... SecureCRT is all I need when working in unix....that's a
lot less hassle than fucking around with X windows and installing tons of shit
I'd need to do the same on linux..........I don't see the point or advantage in
doing that.......it's as stupid as trying to cook a meal in a laundry machine....

I do have a unix server in my office which I use a production/file server
but for any non server task.......linux isn't any better than good old windows.
I never have to reboot windows or any of the bullshit that people usely come
up with.......all the popular windows dissadvantages are 90% caused by
the user instead of windows.......if you keep your box clean....don't install
crappy software or "Cracked" versions and whenever you deinstall something
you also clean the registry than there's not much performance reasons why
you rather should use linux.........

Ok.....unless you really hate to occasionally reboot your machine after
software upgrades that really require a reboot.......which these days isn't
that often anymore......the days that changing your ip or any other network
setting and HAD to reboot are long gone..........

The advantages of Linux/Unix over windows don't have anything todo with
usage as a desktop........linux geeks don't want to hear it.......but if asked
to show me I'm wrong.....

The only reason I can think of why you would install it on your workstation
is to learn how to use it.......if you want to learn howto work with unix than
that's a good reason to play with it on your workstation.......anything other
than that.........imo is absolute useless
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That really all depends on your video card. If you want video cards that work well with linux, avoid ATI products at all costs, and buy Nvidia or Intel. If you have a well supported card, it should be just as snappy as any other OS.
Ok thats windows resize/movement. What about application loading speed. Has that improved at all?
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The only reason I can think of why you would install it on your workstation
is to learn how to use it.......if you want to learn howto work with unix than
that's a good reason to play with it on your workstation.......anything other
than that.........imo is absolute useless
Damn... and I thought I abused the '.....' notation.

Linux makes a great workstation, depending on the tools you need to use. I like having a fully functional system out of the box, that comes with applications to do just about anything I need to do. Not having to hunt down some shareware 3rd party app every time I need to take care of some trivial task saves so much time for me, it more than makes up for any other time spent tweaking settings (although theres not much you have to do these days anyhow, unless you have some poorly supported hardware).

To each his own though...
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As far as linux goes.... give me Slackware or Gentoo.
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Ok thats windows resize/movement. What about application loading speed. Has that improved at all?
Really depends on your machine, and a whole lot of other factors. Depends on the desktop environment you use (GNOME, KDE, or something else etc). GNOME and KDE generally have a little bit more overhead than the lightweight desktop environments/window managers (XFCE, WindowMaker, Blackbox). Everyone's experience is going to be different, based on their hardware profile. And of course, having lots of RAM, and fast hard disks is going to go a long way.

You shouldnt have many load time issues if your running on modern hardware.
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i love these ms bashing noobie.
you retard do not hv the iq to run a pc properly, cursing ms for your own stupidity and run toward the other inferior os do not make you a better user. infact, you will hv more problems because the lack of driver support.

by the way, vista is the best os up to date. i am now typing on an UMPC with windows vista running. it is fast, reponsive and stable. more than enough to rip some kiddie apple os ubanana shit lol
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Damn... and I thought I abused the '.....' notation.

Linux makes a great workstation, depending on the tools you need to use. I like having a fully functional system out of the box, that comes with applications to do just about anything I need to do. Not having to hunt down some shareware 3rd party app every time I need to take care of some trivial task saves so much time for me, it more than makes up for any other time spent tweaking settings (although theres not much you have to do these days anyhow, unless you have some poorly supported hardware).

To each his own though...
lol I have a patent on '.....' and yes you're right......to each his
own......and I didn't mean that linux sucks as a workstation.....it did look
that way a bit.....what I meant is that it's no point to use linux if 90% of the
time you want to do the same stuff that you would do on a windows machine

for example run photoshop instead of using gimp.....;-)
use a bunch of windows apps that only work using wine or vmware ;-)

Also though vlc is a great media player......if you work a lot with media
stuff......windows has a lot more, easier and sometimes better tools than
what's available in linux....

and for me.....all the things I need unix for......I'd never do using a GUI
interface.....ssh, vi, compilers and programing languages is almost everything
I ever need......so a simple shell is all I need to do my thing.....I'd never
use a gui editor for editing files or to write code.......in fact I hardly really
write code on a unix box......I use UltraEdit to write code.....I use vi to edit
and make changes.......I'm so addicted to UltraEdit that I'd even keep a windows box only for that

There's probably similar editors for unix.......but I'm just too lazy to get to
learn it as good as I know UltraEdit.....it would take months before I remember
all the keyboard shortcuts for all the stuff I need to do........if you code
yourself, use windows and for some reason haven't tried UltraEdit......then
I recommend to check it out...........I've never seen any other editor so
advanced and still friendly to use.....The guy who build that editor deserves
a fucking statue............It's a shareware app and dirtcheap to buy......but
even it would cost $500 I'd still buy it without a shadow of a doubt......

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