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				Epoch/Paycom or Verotel as secondary?
			 
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	I'd be interested in hearing which of the two I should go with and the pros/cons of anyone whose been using them. Thanks for the help! seanchai  | 
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			 Verotel. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	Years and no issues. Online chat if you need assistance. They'll have you up and running in no time.  | 
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		 Epoch Primary 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
	
	CCBill Secondary Pro: Epoch comes with MPA3 powered affiliate programming that will cascade to CCBill.  | 
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		 Epoch has very friendly support  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 *bump* for seanchai :-) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 i would go with Epoch for primary and CCbill for secondary 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I used to have ccbill for primary, with epoch as primary it seems to be better never tried verotel  | 
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		 if anyone needs assistance with epoch, feel free to hit me up! [email protected] 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Verotel is in the house... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Thanks for the kind words. seanchai, feel free to hit me up on icq, email or call my office direct. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 I use CCBill as my primary and would like an secondairy. Because i'm not so much technical and not on big budget. How could i cascade both processors, so my affiliates won't loose the sale when the visitors make the transaction on the secondairy processor?  | 
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		 Verotel has been in business since 1998. Our North American office has been open since September '06. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I would love to talk with you about adding us to your cascade. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 paycom all the way 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Verotel can keep accounts in escrow, they have no Visa fees, low fee for setup  and can process just about anywhere.  Micheal is on the ball and will take good care of you. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		  I believe all June there is free NATS setup.  An AVN special if I'm not mistaken.  That's an opportunity you don't wanna miss.  NATS will make life so much easier.  Took me all of a minute to add GXbill as a non CC biller through them.  I was gonna go with another solution and I'm so glad I didn't. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 Bhunter - EpochStats is a hosted version of MPA3. What this means to you is.... - No cost (free cascading). No set-up fee and no monthly fees. - No integration or programming on your part. - Epoch tracks and reports all affiliate sales through to alternate processors. - Epoch can pay your affiliates for you (PPS or Rev-Share - Your choice or both) - Available to either E.U. or U.S. based programs. Got questions? Hit me up. 
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 Thanks Lance. Bhunter, are you located in Amsterdam? Our main office is on Singel 540. Near the flower market. 
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 I would be interested in your service as long i don't need an expensive affilaite software. I'm just a starter with an regular job to keep this financed.  | 
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		 Verotel is this schiitt... and Mike is your man if you need anything... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			We keep him running around like a chicken with his head cut off with new requests and features we want all the time... and he knocks everything out above and beyond... Verotel will keep you stoked. 
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