Country snapshot : GERMANY

[emjay]

Germany has the largest economy in Europe and the third largest economy in the world, behind the United States and Japan. It is ranked fifth in the world in terms of purchasing power.

The export of goods is an essential part of the German economy and one of the main factors of its wealth.

According to the World Trade Organization, Germany is the world's top exporter with $1.133 trillion exported, from the beginning of 2006.

Now under the stewardship of its first female chancellor, Angela Merkel, Germany is slowly emerging from a prolonged period of economic stagnation.

Once perceived as having one of the most tolerant attitudes to porn, it is now one of the most regulated markets.

Your tours should be 'FSK16' ? softcore ? and your members area cannot be accessed without an AVS. Hardcore content is referred to as ?FSK18?.

This is mirrored in the offline world. Sexshops are commonplace in Germany's High Streets and, unlike their Dutch counterparts, are fairly inoffensive from the outside.

Inside, private video booths are popular, and the majority of the movies being offered cater to the German's insatiable craving for all things fetish ? particularly BDSM and Watersports.

Practically every German town also has a video store, the adult section of which is again off-limits to those under 18 years of age. Invariably, these 'adult-only' sections are the largest and most lucrative section of said stores.

The adult industry is dominated by two heavyweights ? Beate Uhse (a publicly listed company) and Orion who are both based in the northern most town of Flensburg, not far from the Danish border.

Frau Uhse, a legend in her own right, was a former fighter pilot in the war before she moved into erotica and is known by 99% of all Germans. Both companies have a sizeable mail-order division and have aggressively expanded eastwards since the collapse of the Berlin Wall back in 1989.

Whist the above operate a significant proportion of the sex shops, there are plenty of independent stores most of which buy their wares from the wholesaler ZBF who are based in Wiesbaden, near Frankfurt. ZBF regularly holds trade-fair days, whereby content distributors can display and sell their wares to the sex store owners.

Within Germany, there exists a north/south divide with regard to sexual tolerance. This can be attributed to the fact that in the south, the Catholic Church still has much more influence there.

Paradoxically, this is where the majority of the ultra-hardcore production companies are located, including Europe?s largest producer, Bukkake King John Thompson.

In the more tolerant north, Hamburg with it's infamous Reeperbahn ('the world's most sinful mile') is second only to Amsterdam in terms of it's red-light offerings and is popular with both Germans and tourists alike.

Webmasters with compelling content ignore this market at their peril. And when you throw satellite country next door ? Austria ? and German speaking Switzerland into the equation, you are looking at a market of more than 100 million potential customers.

Just remember to sell to them in their own native tongue, and use a processor that accepts ?Lastschrift? ? authorising you to take the subscription fee from their regular checking account.

The Germans are a conservative lot ? credit card penetration is much lower there than in other developed markets and those that do have them are often reluctant to use them online, particularly with overseas porn merchants!

To this end, you should also include phone billing as part of your billing arsenal ? the Germans love the anonymity and convenience of paying you this way. Indeed, Germany is our largest overall market?

By steadfastly sticking to a ?credit card only? sales strategy, you are depriving yourself of significant additional money ?made in Germany?.

[itto]

da haste recht..

[frank7799]

Das predige ich schon seit Jahren, aber wer hört mir zu?

[Forest]

Thats why we bill Direct Debit in germany

works like a charm as 90+% of germans have bank accounts and you can bill those accounts forever

God bless Direct debit and germany

[Trax]

direct debit and credit cards are indeed the ways to go...
phone billing? i dont think so...

[emjay]

Originally Posted by Trax

direct debit and credit cards are indeed the ways to go...
phone billing? i dont think so...

I know so:winkwink

[mikah9]

Originally Posted by itto

da haste recht..

dit glaub ich auch

[jonesonyou]

I Have always been impressed with products made by Germans

[MaDalton]

ich dachte ich sag mal guten tag...

[emjay]

Originally Posted by jonesonyou

I Have always been impressed with products made by Germans

Indeed, great cars - and washing machines (Miele rocks!)

[pornguy]

That chick is hot.


And thank Hitler for the VW Bug.

[AtlantisCash]

an other good MJ's thread

[Forest]

Originally Posted by Trax

direct debit and credit cards are indeed the ways to go...
phone billing? i dont think so...

i have to agree

no offense to any phone billers but give a german the option (and we do) between phone and direct debit they will choose direct debit more then phone

thats not to say you cant bill germans via phone, you can

[Ines]

Hallo Ihr in Deutschland

and: Hi there

Our statistics for Germany show: 70% Direct Debit, 20% CC and 10% SMS, Phone and other alternative payment solutions. And that's not going to change a lot.
- chargebacks are higher, but also the signup ratio - 100% of Germans have a bank account. We do not have checks there anymore. So even wellfare, unemployment money, childrens money etc will just be paid per wire.

But - password by phone is a great alternative to have in addition to direct debit (have to write that, or Tanja will not like me anymore :D )
No - honestly - it is a great addition and an alternative for people who don't want to use their bank account - even if at the end his phonebill will be paid per direct debit ;)

Have a good one
Ines

[Webby]

Originally Posted by emjay

Germany has the largest economy in Europe and the third largest economy in the world, behind the United States and Japan. It is ranked fifth in the world in terms of purchasing power.

Another interesting post Marc

Always valued doing biz in Germany - the people we dealt with were 100% honorable and deals could be done with a handshake.

Lost track of the German market a little, but there was also an accent on producing a good product - and the packaging was excellent.

Damn... small world.. knew Beate well and also traded with Orion and ZBF decades ago Nice to see they are all expanding tho Beate is no longer with us - but her legacy rolls on.

[Anthony]

Deutschland Deutschland ueber alles Deutschland deutsches Vaterland!

Ich bin ein stolzer deutscher und ich bin mir sicher, dass Deutschland erneut die Welt regieren will.

Die Welt wird sich vor Deutschlands fuessen erneut verstecken.

Deutschland ist POWER und POWER regiert die WELT

Vergesse nicht uns deutsche wir werden bald wieder die Welt regieren !!!!!

[Gumballs]

I love Germany it is really a beautiful country. I like Munich the best, but it's hard to make a decision what city is the best in Germany.

[itto]

ihr koennt mich alle mal, ich geh jez schlafen.
schuess.

[emjay]

Check out this clip - a classic!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=YsCR9Y4Ymvo

[BigPinPin]

Why are most of the international programs not represented in germany ? it´s a huge market and there is a lot of €€€ to make. If you need some more info contact me: info at pornhulk dot net

So und nu steck ich mir den Finger in den Popo, so...

[Tim]

Originally Posted by emjay

Indeed, great cars - and washing machines (Miele rocks!)[/IMG]

I always suspected you were a Miele man

[TheMan]

Originally Posted by Ines

Hallo Ihr in Deutschland

and: Hi there

Our statistics for Germany show: 70% Direct Debit, 20% CC and 10% SMS, Phone and other alternative payment solutions. And that's not going to change a lot.
- chargebacks are higher, but also the signup ratio - 100% of Germans have a bank account. We do not have checks there anymore. So even wellfare, unemployment money, childrens money etc will just be paid per wire.

But - password by phone is a great alternative to have in addition to direct debit (have to write that, or Tanja will not like me anymore :D )
No - honestly - it is a great addition and an alternative for people who don't want to use their bank account - even if at the end his phonebill will be paid per direct debit ;)

Have a good one
Ines

Tanja might get angry huh? The very same "Tanja" who helped mismanage Goodthinxx and conveniently never paid hundreds of webmasters?
Now she is with a new company, and it's simply ok for her to jump back in the biz despite all the webmasters that were burned?

Do a search on this board for "goodthinxx" and learn about how well that project ended up.

I don't get it, what's with these non payers who jump from company to company and never get called out.
Then webmasters act surprised when the shiny new company falters and people get left without payment of course, when everything is going well and webmasters are getting paid, people like Tanja speak on panels, hob knob at the shows, have PR articles written up about them
and bask in the limelight. Then once everything falls apart , they have some BS excuse that exonerates then from the responsibility of paying webmasters.

And that leads to another question: why do companies hire people or associate themselves with people who have a history of non payment to webmasters?
What does that say about a companies that hire these people?

Maybe passwordbyphone will pay me the money I am owed , as well as the other webmasters who were never paid by Goodthinxx?

I say take it out of the fat salary you are probably paying "Tanja" , or are we afraid that "Tanja might get angry" ?

[_Richard_]

wow.. thanks for the info. I wasn't aware they had the third largest economy

[uvort]

Originally Posted by Ines

Hallo Ihr in Deutschland

and: Hi there

Our statistics for Germany show: 70% Direct Debit, 20% CC and 10% SMS, Phone and other alternative payment solutions.

Enough said right here, Direct Debit rocks!

[Extreme Nate]

This is why we use GXB... They have both driect debit EU (including Germany) and telephone billing.

We have been using them for a couple years and they are by far the best out there..
BTW: Happy Birthday GXB http://avnonline.com/index_cache.php...tent_ID=289128

[Hardcore J]

happy birthday GXB

Metal Cash uses GXB for Direct debit EU and telephone billing, good people!

[Randyyy]

dude i wanna go to germany, country rich in history

[Feivel]

langsam kommt ich mir hier richtig heimisch vor :D

[fetishHIT]

Germany is beautiful, got the chance? GO THERE!

[Violetta]

nice read...

[mindoro]

Nett geschrieben und ich dachte immer hier sind kaum Deutsche wie man sich irren kann.

Wenn wer Interesse hat am Linktausch mit Deutschen handgeschriebenen Blogs schickt mir eine Mail mit euren Linktauschvorschlägen

[email protected]

Gruß Mindoro

[TBrown]

so viel Deutsch spracher here...

[freevidclub]

ich denke paypal als Zahlungsart ist bei den deutschen auch schon ganz beliebt geworden.

[ThePornBrain]

Originally Posted by TheMan

Tanja might get angry huh? The very same "Tanja" who helped mismanage Goodthinxx and conveniently never paid hundreds of webmasters?
Now she is with a new company, and it's simply ok for her to jump back in the biz despite all the webmasters that were burned?

Do a search on this board for "goodthinxx" and learn about how well that project ended up.

I don't get it, what's with these non payers who jump from company to company and never get called out.
Then webmasters act surprised when the shiny new company falters and people get left without payment of course, when everything is going well and webmasters are getting paid, people like Tanja speak on panels, hob knob at the shows, have PR articles written up about them
and bask in the limelight. Then once everything falls apart , they have some BS excuse that exonerates then from the responsibility of paying webmasters.

And that leads to another question: why do companies hire people or associate themselves with people who have a history of non payment to webmasters?
What does that say about a companies that hire these people?

Maybe passwordbyphone will pay me the money I am owed , as well as the other webmasters who were never paid by Goodthinxx?

I say take it out of the fat salary you are probably paying "Tanja" , or are we afraid that "Tanja might get angry" ?

funny isn't it?

but another question:
is it true that a surfer has to wait for like 12 minutes to get a password - but if he hangs up after 11 minutes passwordbyphone keeps all the money and the site owner and webmaster get nothing?

[SLOWDOWN ILL CUM TOO FAST]

and where would one get the direct debit option to set up on his site? dose ccbill offer that?

[mrkrabs]

Hier sind mehr deutsche als man meint! Viel mehr!!!

[emjay]

Originally Posted by ThePornBrain

funny isn't it?

but another question:
is it true that a surfer has to wait for like 12 minutes to get a password - but if he hangs up after 11 minutes passwordbyphone keeps all the money and the site owner and webmaster get nothing?

No. Taken from FAQ:

What happens if a caller hangs up after 1 or 2 minutes! Do I get paid anyway?

"Customers will call to receive a password and will stay on the phone to listen to their password about 97% to 98 % of the time. The caller listens to a interesting 4,5 minute announcement, followed by the password and the password repetition which results in average to a 5 minutes 15 seconds to 5 minutes 30 second call duration.

There are about 2 to 3 percent of callers who hang up during the first 30 to 60 seconds. Once the caller remains over 60 seconds on the phone he will want to listen to the password. After all, this is the reason why the caller is calling and therefore will stay the full duration on the phone. We included the very few "30 second hang ups" into our calculation and will pay for every password of the duration of 6 minutes instead of the 5 minutes 30 seconds. This means we pay for 30 seconds more than the actual holding time and this covers generously the few "30 second hang ups" you may have."

Otherwise, we would need to have a seperate premium number per country per client which is not feasable.

[emjay]

Originally Posted by SLOWDOWN ILL CUM TOO FAST

and where would one get the direct debit option to set up on his site? dose ccbill offer that?

I don't think CCBILL do, but LOCALBILLING do.

Once processor that are strong in the Germanic markets are www.nedebit.de who at long last recently added an English version of their B2B website.

If you speak to them, tell 'em I sent ya

[ju1ce]

Is there a german webmaster forum? I couldn't find one.

[emjay]

Originally Posted by ju1ce

Is there a german webmaster forum? I couldn't find one.

Yes, www.jagin.de

[BigPinPin]

german = pornhulk.com & thedailyblah.com/de ;)

By the way...CCBillEU offers direct (bank) debit for germany, austria and the netherlands

[Forest]

Originally Posted by emjay

I don't think CCBILL do, but LOCALBILLING do.

Once processor that are strong in the Germanic markets are www.nedebit.de who at long last recently added an English version of their B2B website.

If you speak to them, tell 'em I sent ya

CCBill eu does Direct debit. I also have a solution for Direct Debit. We have been processing Direct debit in germany and several other countries in EU for 10 years so we are by far the longest Direct debit processor in EU

Hit me up for a great solution