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uno · 05-07-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Romance

I do not believe in tipping...I believe in over tipping. Yes

Mr. Romance

BJ · 05-07-2007, 03:33 PM

I deivered pizza in high school, the people that did not tip went on a list we had at the restaurant. I would bring their pizza's last and cold.

If you don't want to tip, go pick it up.

If you tip well your pizza will get there faster and hotter once the drivers begin to know you.

Deej · 05-07-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JP513

newspapers, about 200-300 in an hour, 530am-630am.

pizzas deliveries, 4-6 during peak hours, drivers do better if they can make 2-3 stops per trip leaving the store. but even just one can be ok.....if people tip. 2 deliveries per trip is like a hedge against bad tippers.

Was around 5pm-whenever, 9pm, 1am, etc.

I had a paper route of over 800 and a long night was 4 hours (very spread out through town and up river) ...sometimes we have to pick up more slack and do 1200....that took forever!!!

Very hard on the car. and our bodies(girlfriend and I)...i believe it lead to the demise of our relationship as well...

Took us into a ditch once ... theres a ditch in between two driveways and I mistook the ditch for a driveway as the lights were sweeping across is... Shitty times

BlackCrayon · 05-07-2007, 04:58 PM

i always give the delivery guy a 3 dollar tip.

Screaming · 05-07-2007, 05:26 PM

i always tip some

05-07-2007, 06:38 PM

I always tip them at least $5. I figure since I am to lazy to cook that night and they are bringing me my food, they deserve a tip.

nico-t · 05-07-2007, 06:44 PM

i always tip the pizza dude.... its common here. depends how much but usually 1 or 2 euros.. and they should be happy with that since the pizza joint is about 5 mins from here

Spunky · 05-07-2007, 06:49 PM

Depends how late they are..usually 5 bucks

Slick · 05-07-2007, 06:50 PM

I always tip $4-$6 for pizza delivery, depending on how big the order.

Heck, I even tip the girls when I get "Carside To Go" at Applebees.

Scroto · 05-07-2007, 06:52 PM

always tip.. the same chick comes everytime so she knows us and now it seems the pizza gets here faster lol

TSGlider · 05-07-2007, 09:16 PM

I tip everybody.

teg0 · 05-07-2007, 09:19 PM

Yes I tip and I tip well. The reason for this is because I've known a lot of pizza delivery guys AND gals. They all say that they keep track, usually in a notebook in the car, the amount of the tips they receive at certain addresses. This helps them determine in the future if they are going to deliver the pizza fast or if they are going to sit outside their house for awhile and not give them their pizza. You give good tips you'll get good service. If you give bad tips and then bitch about the service then its your own fault.

manilaheat · 05-07-2007, 09:23 PM

i tip $5 - i think tips are good karma and come back to you

notabook · 05-07-2007, 09:34 PM

I'll tip $5 on average depending on how fast the delivery is. If it takes more than 30 minutes, fuck off, you are not getting a tip. Though I did tip a guy once a few bucks even though he was late... he got lost. I felt bad for him that he wasted so much gas.

potter · 05-07-2007, 09:37 PM

1. They make shit for wage and rely on their tips.
2. They arn't really compensated much for gas.
3. They're the ones driving your food around town so you don't have to.
4. You tip a waitress, she only has to walk twenty feet from the kitchen to your table.
5. You save money on gas to not have to drive yourself.
6. They're putting miles and wear on thei car for your pizza.
7. Not to mention the dangers of driving, specially if the weather is bad.

You're a douchebag if you don't tip. And I'll put money down that some of your pizzas have had something on them you didn't want to eat. They know who doesn't tip, and that person won't get good service.

dissipate · 05-07-2007, 09:41 PM

I want a pizza girl who brings me my shit in a bikini.

SilentKnight · 05-07-2007, 09:42 PM

Nope, no tips.

I don't feel the obligation to fund someone else's poor career choice.

Years ago I did appliance deliveries for a local company (fridges, stoves, washers and dryers, etc.). We also did the appliance hook-ups and hauled away their old appliances. We very seldom got a tip from customers, yet often those same customers had no qualms about tipping the pizza guy at the door.

No parity.

We never expected tips. We were just doing our job for the wage we were hired at (which wasn't much more than what an average pizza delivery dude makes).

Occasionally I might tip an exceptional waiter/waitress if they go out of their way to make a meal a very enjoyable experience. But that's rare these days.

potter · 05-07-2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

I had a paper route of over 800 and a long night was 4 hours (very spread out through town and up river) ...sometimes we have to pick up more slack and do 1200....that took forever!!!

Very hard on the car. and our bodies(girlfriend and I)...i believe it lead to the demise of our relationship as well...

Took us into a ditch once ... theres a ditch in between two driveways and I mistook the ditch for a driveway as the lights were sweeping across is... Shitty times

I don't know where you're from but that sounds way off. A normal route is 200-300 papers any given day, some up to 350-400 on sundays. You'd need at least three routes to be throwing 800 on weekdays. And who knows how many for 1200. Maybe if you were throwing two routes with alternate delivery. But alternate delivery is few and far between each year.

Sly · 05-07-2007, 09:48 PM

I tip $5 and always have my pizza 20 minutes ahead of estimated time. Seriously, like 30 minutes.

You could take some "principal stand" and end up with saliva flavored pizza or you could cough up the gas money you saved and get premium service. Gee... let's think about that.

silver · 05-07-2007, 09:52 PM

I always give them at least $5.00

Firehorse · 05-07-2007, 09:55 PM

$5 tip makes me feel good and my Pizza better!

Deej · 05-07-2007, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by potter

I don't know where you're from but that sounds way off. A normal route is 200-300 papers any given day, some up to 350-400 on sundays. You'd need at least three routes to be throwing 800 on weekdays. And who knows how many for 1200. Maybe if you were throwing two routes with alternate delivery. But alternate delivery is few and far between each year.

Well i did it with my girlfriend.. and her mother was a high up at the local paper office... we got had the biggest route wich was the combo of three or four...and when the 1200 went down that was the chick that had the second biggest load under ours was out of town...

Thats where I was from...

Kevin Marx · 05-07-2007, 10:55 PM

$2-4 here.. and my pizza place is a 2 minute drive.... Yes I am lazy

nikooo · 05-07-2007, 11:02 PM

$1 tip is enough.....

TG Rebecca · 05-07-2007, 11:17 PM

i always tip about 15% on deliveries. i know there is a delivery fee at a lot of places, but the driver doesn't get that.

plus with the prices of gas.. ugh.

CDSmith · 05-07-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TG Rebecca

i know there is a delivery fee at a lot of places, but the driver doesn't get that.

plus with the prices of gas.. ugh.

Then I would suggest those drivers do deliveries for a pizza shop where they DO get the delivery fee.

Because I'm not paying for the food, the fee, and then another fee (tip) on top of that.

I tip well, am not a cheapo by any means, but I'll be damned if I'm going to get double dinged for delivery.

It's like restaurants who add a 15 or 20% gratuity to your bill. It's already there, you have to pay it. No way I then pay a second tip on top of that. If the restaurant isn't giving their staff those fees that they've earned the problem is with the restaurant, not the customer.

ayne468 · 05-07-2007, 11:32 PM

we don't tip in NZ

I like it that way!

JP513 · 05-08-2007, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

I had a paper route of over 800 and a long night was 4 hours (very spread out through town and up river) ...sometimes we have to pick up more slack and do 1200....that took forever!!!

Very hard on the car. and our bodies(girlfriend and I)...i believe it lead to the demise of our relationship as well...

Took us into a ditch once ... theres a ditch in between two driveways and I mistook the ditch for a driveway as the lights were sweeping across is... Shitty times

Wow, 800? That's a fucking lot!

The adult business, I'm sure you'd agree . . . is much better.

Fap · 05-08-2007, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sydney Sin

in every service industry there should be tipping.
his service was to bring you the food. a $2 tip is pleanty.

Always tip service.. but for pizza tip is based off the amount of your delivery..

JP513 · 05-08-2007, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick

Heck, I even tip the girls when I get "Carside To Go" at Applebees.

I do that too, but at P.F. Chang's Chinese. Love it!

JP513 · 05-08-2007, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by notabook

I'll tip $5 on average depending on how fast the delivery is. If it takes more than 30 minutes, fuck off, you are not getting a tip. Though I did tip a guy once a few bucks even though he was late... he got lost. I felt bad for him that he wasted so much gas.

That's a harsh attitude. I used to deliver ('til '94) and I can tell you that 9 times out of 10, when we were late, it was not due to getting lost. It was due to the pizza coming out of the oven late. That's a management issue, not a driver issue. Don't make the driver pay.

JP513 · 05-08-2007, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dissipate

I want a pizza girl who brings me my shit in a bikini.

I once delievered a pizza to a totally hot girl in a red silk robe and I could see nipples! Made my fucking day!

Actually, made my week.

JP513 · 05-08-2007, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by nikooo

$1 tip is enough.....

No it's not, not if you want to be fair. $2 should be minimum.

jesse_adultdatingdollars · 05-08-2007, 01:10 AM

$16 pizza I tip $4 = $20

facialfreak · 05-08-2007, 01:13 AM

I usually tip at least 15% of what my pie is worth .....

I have my favorite place in town here that gets my business .... I order maybe 3 times a month, and my pie is on my coffee table in under 20 mins all the time ...

When you order delivery food, the delivery driver is your waitor or waitress ... why would you think they should not deserve a tip, or only $1-2??

Be glad I'm not delivering your pies you cheap asses .... next time I would spit on it!

If somebody serves you, and the service is good, YES they deserve a tip, and in most cases their wages depend on tips!

facialfreak · 05-08-2007, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I tip $5 and always have my pizza 20 minutes ahead of estimated time. Seriously, like 30 minutes.

You could take some "principal stand" and end up with saliva flavored pizza or you could cough up the gas money you saved and get premium service. Gee... let's think about that.

I scrolled up and read this AFTER I posted ..... VERY WELL SAID!!

Monique Niccole · 05-08-2007, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Nope, no tips.

I don't feel the obligation to fund someone else's poor career choice.

Occasionally I might tip an exceptional waiter/waitress if they go out of their way to make a meal a very enjoyable experience. But that's rare these days.

You sound like a real piece of work.

Of course I tip delivery people. I can't imagine why you wouldn't. It's a few bucks that allowed you to not get up off your ass to go get your own pizza.

King Adam · 05-08-2007, 01:25 AM

Tip for sure. There is no reason you can't throw them at least a buck.

Viper2K1 · 05-08-2007, 07:23 AM

I'm not from the US, and where I live tipping is a rare thing compared to the tipping in the US

now, can somebody explain me why you're almost obligated to tip, just because they get paid a shitty wage?
Is it your fault the owner pays them a shitty wage?
Free delivery is free delivery ... they should just calculate that in the price or whatever.

Maybe I'm just confused because here they make sure prices are high enough to include everything.

I remember when I was in Phoenix, we tipped the lady at the window of the drive-through of some fastfood place ... she said she had been working in that industry for years and it was the first time she got a tip

Sydney Sin · 05-08-2007, 07:25 AM

Always tip. Doesn't have to be a lot. $2-$3?

AdultDeals · 05-08-2007, 07:28 AM

It's up to you but it certainly is not a big deal for me to give the guy a couple dollars to brighten his/her day.

HowlingWulf · 05-08-2007, 08:17 AM

I figure most of them hate their job. I know I would. Life's been good to me so I always tip $5 for pizza and 20-30% at restaurants and thank the gods I'm not in the service industry.

JP513 · 05-12-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Viper2K1

I'm not from the US, and where I live tipping is a rare thing compared to the tipping in the US
now, can somebody explain me why you're almost obligated to tip, just because they get paid a shitty wage?
Is it your fault the owner pays them a shitty wage?

This is customary for my non-US friends to take this viewpoint. But in the US, you should do as Americans do, and when in Rome (etc) we will do as the Romans do.

TimBlaze · 05-12-2007, 09:38 PM

yeah my orders usually come out to $17, i give em the $20 bill. if it's over $17 i throw in some extra $1's.

J. Falcon · 05-12-2007, 10:19 PM

I usually tip everyone, unless the service is complete shit.

notabook · 05-12-2007, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JP513

That's a harsh attitude. I used to deliver ('til '94) and I can tell you that 9 times out of 10, when we were late, it was not due to getting lost. It was due to the pizza coming out of the oven late. That's a management issue, not a driver issue. Don't make the driver pay.

I live approx. 5 minutes away from my local pizza place. If they can't get the pizza to me within 30 minutes they are not getting any tip period.

fallenmuffin · 05-12-2007, 10:42 PM

I tip $2 regardless of order.

stillsexy · 05-13-2007, 04:13 AM

make your own judgement by looking at their faces...u can tell...

BucksMania · 05-13-2007, 04:50 AM

i dont tip them, i beat them!

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05-07-2007, 09:19 PM	#62
teg0 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gringo in Puerto Rico Posts: 4,204	Yes I tip and I tip well. The reason for this is because I've known a lot of pizza delivery guys AND gals. They all say that they keep track, usually in a notebook in the car, the amount of the tips they receive at certain addresses. This helps them determine in the future if they are going to deliver the pizza fast or if they are going to sit outside their house for awhile and not give them their pizza. You give good tips you'll get good service. If you give bad tips and then bitch about the service then its your own fault. Last edited by teg0; 05-07-2007 at 09:20 PM..

05-07-2007, 03:33 PM	#52
BJ Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: asia Posts: 5,590	I deivered pizza in high school, the people that did not tip went on a list we had at the restaurant. I would bring their pizza's last and cold. If you don't want to tip, go pick it up. If you tip well your pizza will get there faster and hotter once the drivers begin to know you.

05-07-2007, 06:38 PM	#56
JaneB Guest Posts: n/a	I always tip them at least $5. I figure since I am to lazy to cook that night and they are bringing me my food, they deserve a tip.

05-07-2007, 06:44 PM	#57
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	i always tip the pizza dude.... its common here. depends how much but usually 1 or 2 euros.. and they should be happy with that since the pizza joint is about 5 mins from here

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Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	I always tip $4-$6 for pizza delivery, depending on how big the order. Heck, I even tip the girls when I get "Carside To Go" at Applebees.

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Scroto Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,804	always tip.. the same chick comes everytime so she knows us and now it seems the pizza gets here faster lol

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manilaheat Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 584	i tip $5 - i think tips are good karma and come back to you __________________ ALPHARED.COM - 61000 Mbps of Capacity 24/7 Live Support Guaranteed No Buffer / No Congestion Guarantee! [email protected] - ICQ 381-726-093

05-07-2007, 09:34 PM	#64
notabook Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Not a Library! Posts: 9,748	I'll tip $5 on average depending on how fast the delivery is. If it takes more than 30 minutes, fuck off, you are not getting a tip. Though I did tip a guy once a few bucks even though he was late... he got lost. I felt bad for him that he wasted so much gas. __________________ Last edited by notabook; 05-07-2007 at 09:35 PM..

05-07-2007, 09:37 PM	#65
potter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 6,559	1. They make shit for wage and rely on their tips. 2. They arn't really compensated much for gas. 3. They're the ones driving your food around town so you don't have to. 4. You tip a waitress, she only has to walk twenty feet from the kitchen to your table. 5. You save money on gas to not have to drive yourself. 6. They're putting miles and wear on thei car for your pizza. 7. Not to mention the dangers of driving, specially if the weather is bad. You're a douchebag if you don't tip. And I'll put money down that some of your pizzas have had something on them you didn't want to eat. They know who doesn't tip, and that person won't get good service. __________________

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dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	I want a pizza girl who brings me my shit in a bikini.

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SilentKnight Megan Fox's fluffer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: shooting pool in Elysium Posts: 24,818	Nope, no tips. I don't feel the obligation to fund someone else's poor career choice. Years ago I did appliance deliveries for a local company (fridges, stoves, washers and dryers, etc.). We also did the appliance hook-ups and hauled away their old appliances. We very seldom got a tip from customers, yet often those same customers had no qualms about tipping the pizza guy at the door. No parity. We never expected tips. We were just doing our job for the wage we were hired at (which wasn't much more than what an average pizza delivery dude makes). Occasionally I might tip an exceptional waiter/waitress if they go out of their way to make a meal a very enjoyable experience. But that's rare these days.

05-07-2007, 09:48 PM	#69
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,331	I tip $5 and always have my pizza 20 minutes ahead of estimated time. Seriously, like 30 minutes. You could take some "principal stand" and end up with saliva flavored pizza or you could cough up the gas money you saved and get premium service. Gee... let's think about that. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

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facialfreak Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 3,018	I usually tip at least 15% of what my pie is worth ..... I have my favorite place in town here that gets my business .... I order maybe 3 times a month, and my pie is on my coffee table in under 20 mins all the time ... When you order delivery food, the delivery driver is your waitor or waitress ... why would you think they should not deserve a tip, or only $1-2?? Be glad I'm not delivering your pies you cheap asses .... next time I would spit on it! If somebody serves you, and the service is good, YES they deserve a tip, and in most cases their wages depend on tips! __________________ Managed Shared Hosting starting at $4.99/mo Managed VPS starting at $29.99/mo Last edited by facialfreak; 05-08-2007 at 01:15 AM..

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Viper2K1 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,006	I'm not from the US, and where I live tipping is a rare thing compared to the tipping in the US now, can somebody explain me why you're almost obligated to tip, just because they get paid a shitty wage? Is it your fault the owner pays them a shitty wage? Free delivery is free delivery ... they should just calculate that in the price or whatever. Maybe I'm just confused because here they make sure prices are high enough to include everything. I remember when I was in Phoenix, we tipped the lady at the window of the drive-through of some fastfood place ... she said she had been working in that industry for years and it was the first time she got a tip __________________ Spank me Dude, where's my traffic?

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HowlingWulf Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,662	I figure most of them hate their job. I know I would. Life's been good to me so I always tip $5 for pizza and 20-30% at restaurants and thank the gods I'm not in the service industry. __________________ WP Porn directory/review theme Maddos $35. webmaster AT howling-wulf.com

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TimBlaze Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,625	yeah my orders usually come out to $17, i give em the $20 bill. if it's over $17 i throw in some extra $1's. __________________ Roll that shit, light that shit, Last edited by TimBlaze; 05-12-2007 at 09:39 PM..

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BucksMania Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,758	i dont tip them, i beat them!