As promised, time to name names... - GoFuckYourself.com

MikeSmoke · 05-05-2007, 01:01 PM

Well, three of the companies/individuals have made good on what they owed me, after my last GFY post.
The other three have not.

None of these have been huge money issues, as you'll see - the biggest single one (that was settled) was just under $1K. The three unsettled ones only total about $1K.

But if more people (after being fair and giving someone more than enough time to make good) posted warnings - it would go a long way toward cleaning things up at least a little bit in our biz.

Here goes.

1. VideoGregg - i know, i know - i've had problems in the past too. but he hired someone to handle his marketing and other "stuff" so i took a chance and bought $100 worth of content, with 2257 docs promised (this time, as opposed to when they weren't provided 2 years ago). So after 2 years, I tried again.
Guess what. The "content with 2257 docs" has no docs, some don't even have IDs - they're apparently lost somewhere in Gregg's house.
After giving them a couple of weeks to "find the docs" I asked for a refund via the same online mechanism I paid through. I paid within 3 mins of cutting a deal.
But for several weeks there repeatedly "hasn't been money in that account to make the refund. I'm expecting a payment into it today or tomorrow and you'll get your money immediately."
You're supposedly a decent-sized shooter/company who's been around for years, and you can't make a lousy $100 refund? Geez.

2. Chrome (Carl Geers) - posts on GFY boasting about the hot girls he's shooting and his magazine shoots. Tells me he has lots of girls lined up and wants to shoot - I spend *three months* (his timetable, not mine) going through all the parameters, test shoots, etc - a number of times.
Finally schedules a shoot in January, and we agree that as soon as I see the material he'll get a check (I've operated that way with a number of shooters for years.) He sends me sample photos during the shoot so I can approve/give him tips on lighting. Then says they're halfway through the shoot, but he needs $500 immediately to *finish* the shoot because he has to give the girl the money he's using to pay his bills the next day. I send it immediately. And then I hear *nothing.* He's supposedly finished the photo part of the shoot - I don't even get the photos. Won't answer icq for more than a week. "The model flaked." What happened to the photos? They never arrive.
And for the next two months, every time I ask him for a status report, it's "flaky girls - but I've found another one, here's her photo, what do you think?" After going through that several more times, I ask for my money back in March. Instead I keep getting more pics of hot girls he's going to shoot for me, followed by a disapperance of several weeks.
Last time I've heard from him was mid-April, now I'm just being ignored.
Dude, if you're so strung out you have to play me for $500, have the balls to at least say "I fucked up." Don't ignore me.

3. This one I'll just mention briefly because I've mentioned it in another thread - it's the infamous Red Sexy Studios/Star 69 - after they sent me one bad scene (out of about six) they said they'd reshoot it for me. The bad scene was shot in December, they promised in January a reshoot. A month later when I asked, they said within 1-2 weeks. It's been the same story ever since, even though I told them that I *wanted to spend more money with them* once the re-shoot was done. Guess they're too busy posting on GFY looking for new business to take care of what they promised, even if meant more business.

I know I'm going to get lots of "too long to read" or "you got burned for $1K from three different people, that's part of doing business" or "what did you expect dealing with those people" comments - fire away. But hopefully this will help some others who are looking to buy content.

And thanks to the others (who will not be named) who made good on things after my original post.

Cash · 05-05-2007, 01:06 PM

Too bad what happened, thanks for letting us know.

xclusive · 05-05-2007, 01:08 PM

Hope you can get them to settle things with you.

baddog · 05-05-2007, 01:08 PM

Star 69? What a surprise

</sarcasm>

tenderobject · 05-05-2007, 01:12 PM

goodluck.. star 69 just posted(spammed) a new girl.

MikeSmoke · 05-05-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Star 69? What a surprise

</sarcasm>

Actually, believe it or not, the experience with them was fine, especially since my stuff is tougher than most to shoot - until it came down to this issue.

DaddyHalbucks · 05-05-2007, 01:14 PM

Hope you can get some relief.

bobby666 · 05-05-2007, 01:42 PM

thanks for that infos

scottybuzz · 05-05-2007, 01:45 PM

hahaha star69 LOL

AaronM · 05-05-2007, 01:49 PM

Carl Geers fucked you over huh?

Well, I'm not surprised. Carl is a kick ass photographer but he doesn't know fuck all about how business works. His models never make money...Not because they are not hot...but because Carl tells them they will make percentages of the shoots and when it comes down to it.....50% of shit money = shittier money.

So now he's telling you that he is paying his model? Which model was it?

MikeSmoke · 05-05-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Carl Geers fucked you over huh?

Well, I'm not surprised. Carl is a kick ass photographer but he doesn't know fuck all about how business works. His models never make money...Not because they are not hot...but because Carl tells them they will make percentages of the shoots and when it comes down to it.....50% of shit money = shittier money.

So now he's telling you that he is paying his model? Which model was it?

Yeah, his work looked great - he seemed kind of flaky, but artistic flaky, when we were spending months so he could understand what I was looking for - i chalked that up to being a perfectionist, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
I don't even remember the models names, there were about five or six of them by the end of the drama, but it started with raquel and keeley.

Star 69 · 05-05-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSmoke

Well, three of the companies/individuals have made good on what they owed me, after my last GFY post.
The other three have not.

None of these have been huge money issues, as you'll see - the biggest single one (that was settled) was just under $1K. The three unsettled ones only total about $1K.

But if more people (after being fair and giving someone more than enough time to make good) posted warnings - it would go a long way toward cleaning things up at least a little bit in our biz.

Here goes.

3. This one I'll just mention briefly because I've mentioned it in another thread - it's the infamous Red Sexy Studios/Star 69 - after they sent me one bad scene (out of about six) they said they'd reshoot it for me. The bad scene was shot in December, they promised in January a reshoot. A month later when I asked, they said within 1-2 weeks. It's been the same story ever since, even though I told them that I *wanted to spend more money with them* once the re-shoot was done. Guess they're too busy posting on GFY looking for new business to take care of what they promised, even if meant more business.

And thanks to the others (who will not be named) who made good on things after my original post.

As I promised we will re-shot this scene for you for free. But it's not so easy to find a nice looking models who want to participate in the smoking scene and smoke sigarettes for 12 minutes constantly (aprox 5 sigarettes). Models try not to smoke at all. So it's not so easy to find a model who want to smoke for video.
And please take my apologise.
We can spend money with you in the future

Star 69 · 05-05-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tenderobject

goodluck.. star 69 just posted(spammed) a new girl.

Yes and this new girl is in Kiev (Ukraine) and I am in Russia she will be shot by anonther photographer. And she doensn't smoke.

RRRED · 05-05-2007, 02:40 PM

Hey Mikey! I sent you an email.. just a thought.

tony286 · 05-05-2007, 02:59 PM

Im surprised I figured all Russians smoked

suesheboy · 05-05-2007, 03:32 PM

Keep posting thieves and eventually all the old timers will be honesty.

l

Oracle Porn · 05-05-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Star 69

As I promised we will re-shot this scene for you for free. But it's not so easy to find a nice looking models who want to participate in the smoking scene and smoke sigarettes for 12 minutes constantly (aprox 5 sigarettes). Models try not to smoke at all. So it's not so easy to find a model who want to smoke for video.
And please take my apologise.
We can spend money with you in the future

thats the shittiest excuse I've ever heard...models don't smoke? EVERYONE smokes.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-05-2007, 03:47 PM

Maybe I should start a Russian babes drunk on vodka site...prolly lots of cheap talent available for that - and I might only have to pay them in vodka...

ADG Webmaster

MikeSmoke · 05-05-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RRRED

Hey Mikey! I sent you an email.. just a thought.

thanks nicole, will check for it now

Star 69 · 05-05-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

thats the shittiest excuse I've ever heard...models don't smoke? EVERYONE smokes.

Really? so if you do not belive me come to Russia and shoot the models here. And you will see how they are smoking!!!!

MikeSmoke · 05-05-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Star 69

As I promised we will re-shot this scene for you for free. But it's not so easy to find a nice looking models who want to participate in the smoking scene and smoke sigarettes for 12 minutes constantly (aprox 5 sigarettes). Models try not to smoke at all. So it's not so easy to find a model who want to smoke for video.
And please take my apologise.
We can spend money with you in the future

Well you didn't have any problems finding four smoking models right after i placed my first order - so I didn't realize those were the only four smoking models in Russia that you had access to, and that they were now gone.
And you might want to give them a break rather than have them smoke for 15 minutes straight - I assume you pay them for more than 15 minutes work ;-)

mailman · 05-05-2007, 04:02 PM

Seems you have some shit luck with content

MikeSmoke · 05-05-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mailman

Seems you have some shit luck with content

well, it's a very different niche, with members who want to see very specific stuff, so shooting it is different than point-and-shoot (not to demean the people who are great shooters, just saying this takes more time initially to figure out the lighting and the angles, and limits the model pool you can use - and not everyone wants smoking in their studio). That means not everyone wants to shoot it...and that means i usually have to deal with whoever comes along and wants to try it. I've had some luck over the years, but also a lot of problems.
It'd be ten times easier if I was just looking for someone to shoot a BJ scene

MikeSmoke · 05-05-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mailman

Seems you have some shit luck with content

and part of it is bad luck - i would not have expected three different content brokers to promise all 2257 docs with material they sold me - and find after paying them that all three didn't even have their OWN copies of the docs

Jim_Gunn · 05-05-2007, 04:21 PM

I'm normally all over a thread like this offering my services, but cig smoke makes me ill and I won't even be in the same house or studio with someone smoking, much less in the same room!

JamesK2 · 05-05-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

thats the shittiest excuse I've ever heard...models don't smoke? EVERYONE smokes.

What do you know about models?

MikeSmoke · 05-05-2007, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

I'm normally all over a thread like this offering my services, but cig smoke makes me ill and I won't even be in the same house or studio with someone smoking, much less in the same room!

an oxygen mask would be tax-deductible

RRRED · 05-05-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSmoke

an oxygen mask would be tax-deductible

Now that was funny

MikeSmoke · 05-05-2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RRRED

Now that was funny

every once in a while

LiveDose · 05-05-2007, 07:45 PM

Wow, someone with the balls to call people out.

Mike, I'm impressed. Hope everything gets straightened out...

aico · 05-05-2007, 07:56 PM

Too long of a read, but, what to you expect when you deal with those people...

MikeSmoke · 05-05-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveDose

Wow, someone with the balls to call people out.

Mike, I'm impressed. Hope everything gets straightened out...

Thanks - just stuff that needs to be said.
So do I

MikeSmoke · 05-05-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Too long of a read, but, what to you expect when you deal with those people...

As I've said "those people" who were the original subject of the original post included everyone from well known/respected content brokers, to foreign producers...six companies/people in all, three of whom made good after my original post.

And what I expect from all of them, large or small, broker or shooter, is the same respect and honesty that I give them.

Some times I think too many people in this business expect less...so they get it.

Star 69 · 05-06-2007, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSmoke

Well you didn't have any problems finding four smoking models right after i placed my first order - so I didn't realize those were the only four smoking models in Russia that you had access to, and that they were now gone.
And you might want to give them a break rather than have them smoke for 15 minutes straight - I assume you pay them for more than 15 minutes work ;-)

I paid them for 8 hours of work because now models becoming more and more proffesional and when you are asking them to come for like couple pics sets like 2-3 because the client hava ordered only 3 pic sets they doesn't want to come, when want to come for full time job like 6-10 sets and we pay them like we inviting them for full day of work.
As i allready said we will re-shoot this scene for you.

Oracle Porn · 05-06-2007, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesK

What do you know about models?

I know more about Russia then you do thats for sure, and EVERYONE smokes there.....a pack of cigs costs like $1-$2.

Oracle Porn · 05-06-2007, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Star 69

Really? so if you do not belive me come to Russia and shoot the models here. And you will see how they are smoking!!!!

Karoche ti pizdyn.

Webby · 05-06-2007, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Star 69

As I promised we will re-shot this scene for you for free. But it's not so easy to find a nice looking models who want to participate in the smoking scene and smoke sigarettes for 12 minutes constantly (aprox 5 sigarettes). Models try not to smoke at all. So it's not so easy to find a model who want to smoke for video.
And please take my apologise.
We can spend money with you in the future

You make a habit of talking shit?? Since when was smoking a cigarette "for 12 minutes constantly" a problem??? Too funny but sad

Star 69 · 05-06-2007, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

You make a habit of talking shit?? Since when was smoking a cigarette "for 12 minutes constantly" a problem??? Too funny but sad

During these 12 minutes she needs to moke at list 5 gigarettes. And the girls do not want to worsen their health.

Oracle Porn · 05-06-2007, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Star 69

During these 12 minutes she needs to moke at list 5 gigarettes. And the girls do not want to worsen their health.

Violetta · 05-06-2007, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Star 69

During these 12 minutes she needs to moke at list 5 gigarettes. And the girls do not want to worsen their health.

dont inhale...

Star 69 · 05-06-2007, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockatansky

dont inhale...

The girl need to inhale, because other way it will looks fake.

HighSociety · 05-06-2007, 05:22 AM

we do soming videos and they smoke 3 in 22 minutes, they must still be sucking from the BJ to smoke them that fast LOLOLOLOL

AaronM · 05-06-2007, 10:55 AM

Bumpage.

MikeSmoke · 05-06-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Star 69

I paid them for 8 hours of work because now models becoming more and more proffesional and when you are asking them to come for like couple pics sets like 2-3 because the client hava ordered only 3 pic sets they doesn't want to come, when want to come for full time job like 6-10 sets and we pay them like we inviting them for full day of work.
As i allready said we will re-shoot this scene for you.

you paid them for eight hours of work (at Russian rates, not Los Angeles rates), and only had them shoot one scene for me in the eight hours, but you made them smoke all of their cigs in a row to get the scene done in 15 minutes?
Did they just sit around and laugh their asses off the rest of the time?
You really should either just re-shoot the scene and stop trying to defend yourself; you're sounding sillier and siller.

MikeSmoke · 05-06-2007, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockatansky

dont inhale...

That's why most people who try to shoot smoking fetish without understanding it, fail.

If you were shooting content for an insertions site, would you tell the model "oh, if you don't want to actually fuck it, that's fine - just stay around the *outside area* of the pussy - no one will know if you actually put it in or not."

AaronM · 05-06-2007, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSmoke

That's why most people who try to shoot smoking fetish without understanding it, fail.

If you were shooting content for an insertions site, would you tell the model "oh, if you don't want to actually fuck it, that's fine - just stay around the *outside area* of the pussy - no one will know if you actually put it in or not."

That works for Showtime and Cinemax.

MikeSmoke · 05-06-2007, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

That works for Showtime and Cinemax.

lol true..but they don't depend on income from insertion fetishists for their livelihood

AaronM · 05-06-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSmoke

lol true..but they don't depend on income from insertion fetishists for their livelihood

That's just a technicality.

mattz · 05-06-2007, 02:29 PM

I'm surprised Franck isn't in here bashing star69, or did I just miss him?

AaronM · 05-06-2007, 02:51 PM

We need to move on to page 2.

05-05-2007, 01:01 PM	#1
MikeSmoke Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,233	(DRAMA) As promised, time to name names... Well, three of the companies/individuals have made good on what they owed me, after my last GFY post. The other three have not. None of these have been huge money issues, as you'll see - the biggest single one (that was settled) was just under $1K. The three unsettled ones only total about $1K. But if more people (after being fair and giving someone more than enough time to make good) posted warnings - it would go a long way toward cleaning things up at least a little bit in our biz. Here goes. 1. VideoGregg - i know, i know - i've had problems in the past too. but he hired someone to handle his marketing and other "stuff" so i took a chance and bought $100 worth of content, with 2257 docs promised (this time, as opposed to when they weren't provided 2 years ago). So after 2 years, I tried again. Guess what. The "content with 2257 docs" has no docs, some don't even have IDs - they're apparently lost somewhere in Gregg's house. After giving them a couple of weeks to "find the docs" I asked for a refund via the same online mechanism I paid through. I paid within 3 mins of cutting a deal. But for several weeks there repeatedly "hasn't been money in that account to make the refund. I'm expecting a payment into it today or tomorrow and you'll get your money immediately." You're supposedly a decent-sized shooter/company who's been around for years, and you can't make a lousy $100 refund? Geez. 2. Chrome (Carl Geers) - posts on GFY boasting about the hot girls he's shooting and his magazine shoots. Tells me he has lots of girls lined up and wants to shoot - I spend three months (his timetable, not mine) going through all the parameters, test shoots, etc - a number of times. Finally schedules a shoot in January, and we agree that as soon as I see the material he'll get a check (I've operated that way with a number of shooters for years.) He sends me sample photos during the shoot so I can approve/give him tips on lighting. Then says they're halfway through the shoot, but he needs $500 immediately to finish the shoot because he has to give the girl the money he's using to pay his bills the next day. I send it immediately. And then I hear nothing. He's supposedly finished the photo part of the shoot - I don't even get the photos. Won't answer icq for more than a week. "The model flaked." What happened to the photos? They never arrive. And for the next two months, every time I ask him for a status report, it's "flaky girls - but I've found another one, here's her photo, what do you think?" After going through that several more times, I ask for my money back in March. Instead I keep getting more pics of hot girls he's going to shoot for me, followed by a disapperance of several weeks. Last time I've heard from him was mid-April, now I'm just being ignored. Dude, if you're so strung out you have to play me for $500, have the balls to at least say "I fucked up." Don't ignore me. 3. This one I'll just mention briefly because I've mentioned it in another thread - it's the infamous Red Sexy Studios/Star 69 - after they sent me one bad scene (out of about six) they said they'd reshoot it for me. The bad scene was shot in December, they promised in January a reshoot. A month later when I asked, they said within 1-2 weeks. It's been the same story ever since, even though I told them that I wanted to spend more money with them once the re-shoot was done. Guess they're too busy posting on GFY looking for new business to take care of what they promised, even if meant more business. I know I'm going to get lots of "too long to read" or "you got burned for $1K from three different people, that's part of doing business" or "what did you expect dealing with those people" comments - fire away. But hopefully this will help some others who are looking to buy content. And thanks to the others (who will not be named) who made good on things after my original post. __________________ icq: 541-739-92 Last edited by MikeSmoke; 05-05-2007 at 01:04 PM..

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