Opinions on Paysite review sites ? - GoFuckYourself.com

08-21-2002, 05:33 AM

I was actually thinking of creating one myself, but I have no clue about conversion rates and popularity of those sites. I don't have a simple 'put-a-bunch-of-tour-pages-together-and-sell' site in mind, but an actual review site where I would actually try to review something.

Since I have no clue about them, I'd like to hear some opinions. Thanks

cafeaulait · 08-21-2002, 05:51 AM

I've just signed up with adultreviews.net

They've got a pretty comprehensive paysite review service and they just give you a version with your own sponsor codes instead. nice.

Theo · 08-21-2002, 05:54 AM

I hate them. Specially when I see gammacash site on top spot. :-)

gothweb · 08-21-2002, 05:55 AM

I say this a lot, but here goes... Don't do something because it is working for other people. If you are going to build a new site, please don't clutter up the internet without adding something new. There are too damned many sites of most types out there already, leeching off a limited pool of interest. If you don't make something where demand is better than supply, or create the demand for your product, why in the world would you bother?

That said, I like review sites. The traffic we get from them converts really well, and I like the idea of people having a place where they can get an outside opinion on sites. In a market where every rinkydink site claims to be #1 on the web, an honest review must be refreshing... and it means quality gets a chance to win over marketing.

Thomas007 · 08-21-2002, 05:57 AM

cafeaulait: thx for the fine words.

Well, it works for us.
Do real reviews, the surfers will hate you for doing anything else. There are some fake review sites around, which we could do without. But it's a free world so they can do what they want.

The ratio is lower than TGP. It depends on which traffic you pump into the site.

Our experiments has shown a TGP traffic ratio on about 1:200 +-50
That's on the traffic which actually clicks to the sponsor.
SE traffic is ofcourse the best.

My opinion, if you have the time, go and do it. Let's do a link trade if you get it running.
If you don't have the time, then use your own version of our site.

08-21-2002, 05:57 AM

Yeah, I've seen adultreviews' announcement yesterday. This is not what I want to know though. My question is if average Joe usually even bothers to look at the reviews, using such sites.

I am simply interested in the conversion ratios of such sites, if it's even worth to bother with it at all ...

08-21-2002, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tricky007
cafeaulait: thx for the fine words.

Well, it works for us.
Do real reviews, the surfers will hate you for doing anything else. There are some fake review sites around, which we could do without. But it's a free world so they can do what they want.

The ratio is lower than TGP. It depends on which traffic you pump into the site.

Our experiments has shown a TGP traffic ratio on about 1:200 +-50
That's on the traffic which actually clicks to the sponsor.
SE traffic is ofcourse the best.

My opinion, if you have the time, go and do it. Let's do a link trade if you get it running.
If you don't have the time, then use your own version of our site.

Thanks for the headsup ! Any other opinions ?

08-21-2002, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
I say this a lot, but here goes... Don't do something because it is working for other people. If you are going to build a new site, please don't clutter up the internet without adding something new. There are too damned many sites of most types out there already, leeching off a limited pool of interest. If you don't make something where demand is better than supply, or create the demand for your product, why in the world would you bother?

That said, I like review sites. The traffic we get from them converts really well, and I like the idea of people having a place where they can get an outside opinion on sites. In a market where every rinkydink site claims to be #1 on the web, an honest review must be refreshing... and it means quality gets a chance to win over marketing.

Thanks gothweb, I appreciate your opinion. Of course I would not want to make something copied together. I have made my own experience that you have greater success whenever you do your own thing. And once it's appealing and people will feel like they're not getting bullshitted while reading a critical review, I believe there might be a high success rate.

Gotta do some more research, but once I start, I'll hit you up for a password as well

ServerGenius · 08-21-2002, 06:20 AM

Don't do it....it's shite....you won't make a buck...

DynaMite

08-21-2002, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DynaSpain
Don't do it....it's shite....you won't make a buck...

DynaMite

Why do you say that ? Lemme guess, you run one ?

gothweb · 08-21-2002, 06:23 AM

Make sure you add something to the idea of "review site", rather than just releasing another site with the same idea. If, in a few weeks, you can't explain to me, and the viewer, why your site is going to be different, in 20 words, go back to the drawing board.

I look at it this way... Would they rather go to your site or Jane's Guide? Until there is a reason for some of them to pick the new site, why bother?

Either way, I'll gladly give you a password to review our sites... but if you make the site something really interesting, then I will actually *care*.. and so will the audience.

08-21-2002, 06:27 AM

Hehe, ok - sounds like a deal. You'll hear from me in a few weeks

Master_Yoba · 08-21-2002, 06:34 AM

I think more review sites less paysite cheaters. Good luck, Equinox

Theo · 08-21-2002, 06:38 AM

AdultReviews.net is a real reviewing site, because most of the ones you can find around they have NEVER seen the real members area. This means any similar attempt requires pretty much work.

ServerGenius · 08-21-2002, 06:39 AM

Ok I lied.....they work well.....be honest, no favours, good update
frequency and you'll be fine. Good Luck Equinox....if you have
questions or need help gimme a shout

DynaMite

08-21-2002, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
AdultReviews.net is a real reviewing site, because most of the ones you can find around they have NEVER seen the real members area. This means any similar attempt requires pretty much work.

Didn't expect anything less than work

I am just wondering how hard it might be to ask big programs like Topbucks/Platinumbucks/ARS for passwords to each of their sites ...

08-21-2002, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DynaSpain
Ok I lied.....they work well.....be honest, no favours, good update
frequency and you'll be fine. Good Luck Equinox....if you have
questions or need help gimme a shout

DynaMite

Thanks Mate !

EscortBiz · 08-21-2002, 06:54 AM

PaySiteGuide.com is an affiliate of mine and they rock! But like someone else here said in this business you make money coming up with new creative things

Libertine · 08-21-2002, 07:06 AM

Actually, you can make good money by making the same product and making it look just a bit different.
How many search engines are out there?
How many paysites are out there?
How many tgps are out there?
How many webdesign companies?
How many hosting companies?

Ofcourse, the market will get saturated. However, that doesn't matter much, if you are able to become one of the bigger players. Just be able to pump in lots of traffic, offer something useful to the surfer, have a good domain name, and it will work out.

cafeaulait · 08-21-2002, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox

Didn't expect anything less than work I am just wondering how hard it might be to ask big programs like Topbucks/Platinumbucks/ARS for passwords to each of their sites ...

You'd be surprised, most of the big guys will gladly step up with temporary passwords after you start sending them some real sales - just tell them what its for.

If they won't then they've got something to hide and you can comment on that in the review - again increasing reader trust.

Hit me for a user:pass for my site in the sig if you get it going.

Thomas007 · 08-21-2002, 08:08 AM

That's correct most of the sponsors are happy to give us passwords to their sites.

Eventhough, there are two major sponsors which hasn't let us in yet.
Max Cash says they doesn't give WMs access to their site.
We have asked them 4 times or so.
Lensman just doesn't reply to mails send directly to him.
So Lensman, if you read this and want your sites reviewed, feel free to mail me.

The point is that most sponsors coorporate.
And why shouldn't they if they think they have good sites.

08-21-2002, 11:57 AM

I guess in the worst case you'll take out your CC and take a look during a three day trial or you just pay for the whole month. Not a biggy, considering you will get a picture of how it looks and you'll earn your surfer's trust.

Unless the program like Maxcash will get pissed off once they see that you have screenshots of the member area on your page and they'll cancel your account

J B · 08-21-2002, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tricky007
Do real reviews, the surfers will hate you for doing anything else. There are some fake review sites around, which we could do without. But it's a free world so they can do what they want.

Well, we've been running what you call fake review sites for about three years now and they still work well.

08-21-2002, 12:49 PM

Any more opinions ?

Thomas007 · 08-22-2002, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by J B

Well, we've been running what you call fake review sites for about three years now and they still work well.

That's the beuty of this world. Everything it possible :-)
I hope you'll get 3 more good years.

08-22-2002, 05:22 AM

I already got 2 great domains for the purpose

08-21-2002, 05:55 AM	#4
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I say this a lot, but here goes... Don't do something because it is working for other people. If you are going to build a new site, please don't clutter up the internet without adding something new. There are too damned many sites of most types out there already, leeching off a limited pool of interest. If you don't make something where demand is better than supply, or create the demand for your product, why in the world would you bother? That said, I like review sites. The traffic we get from them converts really well, and I like the idea of people having a place where they can get an outside opinion on sites. In a market where every rinkydink site claims to be #1 on the web, an honest review must be refreshing... and it means quality gets a chance to win over marketing. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

08-21-2002, 05:57 AM	#5
Thomas007 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: AdultReviews.com - Denmark - ICQ: 6565211 Posts: 920	cafeaulait: thx for the fine words. Well, it works for us. Do real reviews, the surfers will hate you for doing anything else. There are some fake review sites around, which we could do without. But it's a free world so they can do what they want. The ratio is lower than TGP. It depends on which traffic you pump into the site. Our experiments has shown a TGP traffic ratio on about 1:200 +-50 That's on the traffic which actually clicks to the sponsor. SE traffic is ofcourse the best. My opinion, if you have the time, go and do it. Let's do a link trade if you get it running. If you don't have the time, then use your own version of our site. __________________ Get your paysite reviewed by Adult Reviews Get your paysite reviewed by Porn Reviews

08-21-2002, 06:20 AM	#9
ServerGenius Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 9,377	Don't do it....it's shite....you won't make a buck... DynaMite __________________ \| http://www.sinnerscash.com/ \| ICQ: 370820 \| Skype: SinnersCash \| AdultWhosWho \|

08-21-2002, 06:23 AM	#11
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Make sure you add something to the idea of "review site", rather than just releasing another site with the same idea. If, in a few weeks, you can't explain to me, and the viewer, why your site is going to be different, in 20 words, go back to the drawing board. I look at it this way... Would they rather go to your site or Jane's Guide? Until there is a reason for some of them to pick the new site, why bother? Either way, I'll gladly give you a password to review our sites... but if you make the site something really interesting, then I will actually care.. and so will the audience. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

08-21-2002, 06:34 AM	#13
Master_Yoba Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dagobah Posts: 1,273	I think more review sites less paysite cheaters. Good luck, Equinox __________________ WATCH MORE PORN

08-21-2002, 05:33 AM	#1
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Opinions on Paysite review sites ? I was actually thinking of creating one myself, but I have no clue about conversion rates and popularity of those sites. I don't have a simple 'put-a-bunch-of-tour-pages-together-and-sell' site in mind, but an actual review site where I would actually try to review something. Since I have no clue about them, I'd like to hear some opinions. Thanks

08-21-2002, 05:51 AM	#2
cafeaulait Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 587	I've just signed up with adultreviews.net They've got a pretty comprehensive paysite review service and they just give you a version with your own sponsor codes instead. nice.

08-21-2002, 05:54 AM	#3
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	I hate them. Specially when I see gammacash site on top spot. :-)

08-21-2002, 06:27 AM	#12
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Hehe, ok - sounds like a deal. You'll hear from me in a few weeks

08-21-2002, 06:38 AM	#14
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	AdultReviews.net is a real reviewing site, because most of the ones you can find around they have NEVER seen the real members area. This means any similar attempt requires pretty much work.

08-21-2002, 06:39 AM	#15
ServerGenius Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 9,377	Ok I lied.....they work well.....be honest, no favours, good update frequency and you'll be fine. Good Luck Equinox....if you have questions or need help gimme a shout DynaMite __________________ \| http://www.sinnerscash.com/ \| ICQ: 370820 \| Skype: SinnersCash \| AdultWhosWho \|

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08-21-2002, 07:06 AM	#19
Libertine sex dwarf Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 17,860	Actually, you can make good money by making the same product and making it look just a bit different. How many search engines are out there? How many paysites are out there? How many tgps are out there? How many webdesign companies? How many hosting companies? Ofcourse, the market will get saturated. However, that doesn't matter much, if you are able to become one of the bigger players. Just be able to pump in lots of traffic, offer something useful to the surfer, have a good domain name, and it will work out.

08-21-2002, 08:08 AM	#21
Thomas007 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: AdultReviews.com - Denmark - ICQ: 6565211 Posts: 920	That's correct most of the sponsors are happy to give us passwords to their sites. Eventhough, there are two major sponsors which hasn't let us in yet. Max Cash says they doesn't give WMs access to their site. We have asked them 4 times or so. Lensman just doesn't reply to mails send directly to him. So Lensman, if you read this and want your sites reviewed, feel free to mail me. The point is that most sponsors coorporate. And why shouldn't they if they think they have good sites. __________________ Get your paysite reviewed by Adult Reviews Get your paysite reviewed by Porn Reviews

08-21-2002, 11:57 AM	#22
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	I guess in the worst case you'll take out your CC and take a look during a three day trial or you just pay for the whole month. Not a biggy, considering you will get a picture of how it looks and you'll earn your surfer's trust. Unless the program like Maxcash will get pissed off once they see that you have screenshots of the member area on your page and they'll cancel your account

08-21-2002, 12:49 PM	#24
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Any more opinions ?

08-22-2002, 05:22 AM	#26
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	I already got 2 great domains for the purpose