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Old 08-20-2002, 10:55 AM   #51
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Roger,

Have your doctor test you for allergies before you take any anti-depressant drugs .



Try Melatonin if you have sleeping problems. It is a dietary supplement. My husband swears by it .


Xanax is suppose to be used for only a short term period of about 2 weeks.... shame shame on the doctors !
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Old 08-20-2002, 11:05 AM   #52
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Try looking up Celexa on the net....it isn't a quick fix but as far as SSRI's go it it has the best benefits to side effects ratio going.

It helps balance the Seratonin levels in your brain.

After being on Celexa for 2 months now, the sheer overwhelming anxiety levels are almost gone.
ElvisManson - I was just given Celexa a few weeks ago - for the past 6 months the doctors have been telling me that stress (and stress alone) has been causing the numbness in my arms, legs, and torso.

Needless to say that after they found Multiple Sclerosis from an MRI scan my stress and anxiety levels have only increased.

I've always been hesitant of prescription mood-enhancers, I'm more comfortable with a *bowl* of relief than a trillion dollar medical campaign.

We'll see how this Celexa works, but at $160 a month I'd rather have a fat sack.

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Old 08-20-2002, 11:25 AM   #53
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ElvisManson - I was just given Celexa a few weeks ago - for the past 6 months the doctors have been telling me that stress (and stress alone) has been causing the numbness in my arms, legs, and torso.

Needless to say that after they found Multiple Sclerosis from an MRI scan my stress and anxiety levels have only increased.

I've always been hesitant of prescription mood-enhancers, I'm more comfortable with a *bowl* of relief than a trillion dollar medical campaign.

We'll see how this Celexa works, but at $160 a month I'd rather have a fat sack.

Celexa is NOT a mood enhancer...there are no "Narcotic" effects whatsoever.....it helps balance the Seratonin levels in your brain.

and if your Seratonin levels are ok it won't do anything.

It has saved me from a world of hurt.
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Celexa is NOT a mood enhancer...there are no "Narcotic" effects whatsoever.....it helps balance the Seratonin levels in your brain.

and if your Seratonin levels are ok it won't do anything.

It has saved me from a world of hurt.
By "mood enhancers" I guess I was referring to all of the different prescription medications that I've heard about, not just the narcos.
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Old 08-20-2002, 11:49 AM   #55
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Fuck I've been getting panic attacks lately.
Maybe I just have alot on my mind but they suck and I think its because i've been glued to my PC for so long.

It was something that came up at the vancouver show and alot of people have been getting them.

Does anyone else have the same thing happen to them?
I was going through the same thing about a month ago. I couldn't sleep unless I took enough sominex to knock out a small village. my productivity was shit and I always felt like I was going to snap at any minute. so I unplugged for a few days went camping no phone, no computer, no naked ladies, and no stats came back after 4 days felt great ever since.
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Old 08-20-2002, 07:24 PM   #56
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Wow. GFY becomes the anxiety/panic support forum!

Roger you've received tons of great advice. One thing I have not seen mentioned is to make sure you keep yourself properly hydrated. It was explained to me that dehydration can trigger an increased heart rate, which then triggers the panic attack. Since my first attack about ten years ago, I've made it a habit to drink water throughout the day and to always have bottled water with me in the car. It's a terribly simple thing, but it really does seem to have helped. I haven't had a full-fledged attack in ages.

In my experience, low blood sugar can also be a trigger.

Good luck, and don't let anyone tell you this is something you just have to live with. You don't. ;)
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Old 08-20-2002, 11:41 PM   #57
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No shit I didn't realize so many people where getting it.
but I guess it comes with the work we do.
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Old 11-24-2002, 01:00 PM   #58
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anxiety and depression are two different things.

SmithKlineBeecham the owners of Paxil are nothing but used car salesmen when it comes to the marketing of thier product.

Too many doctors are mis-prescribing anti-depressants for anxiety needs.

xanax is not for depression, it is strictly for anti-anxiety.
anxiety is the cause of panic attacks not depression.

All paxil will do for a person with panic attacks is screw up the equilibrium of chemicals that is more than likely fine to begin with.

Im not a big fan of the Paxil, Zoloft, Prozac boom.
Its all do to marketing of these coporations, and has little to do with the need of the patient. Really sad.

ok im done with my soap box.
I almost feel like im back in the public health field again.
something i never want to go back to, but it just comes out sometimes
No disrespect intended, but that information is SO wrong it is frightening. Paxil is a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, and it has a REMARKABLE effect in the treatment of anxiety.

Many of the treatments that are effective for depression also happen to work for anxiety. The reason for this is NOT because doctors are just prescribing depression meds for anxiety. The reason is because in many many instances, the same chemical imbalances that cause depression also cause anxiety. Sometimes one, sometimes the other, or sometimes both.

Seretonin has been proven beyond any shadow of doubt to be a major player in the role of anxiety, and therefore is why many of the Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRI's) are tremendously effective in treating anxiety.

Also, Paxil is MARKETED as effective for social phobia/anxiety and that is true, but that is just a marketing gimmick. Paxil is an SSRI as is prozac and so many others. You are right that SmithKline is a tricky marketing company and they zero'd in on the social anxiety angle because it is a lucrative market.

But Paxil is NOT only for anxiety of the social phobia kind, that is simply a clever marketing angle. Paxil is a MIRACLE worker for Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD).

Many, MANY depression medications are also effective anxiety medications, and that is because of the chemical processes in the brain that makes this an undisputable fact.

Quiet, see a doctor, and drop me an email if you'd like. I can share a wealth of information with you.

Best of luck and hang in there.
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Seretonin has been proven beyond any shadow of doubt to be a major player in the role of anxiety, and therefore is why many of the Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRI's) are tremendously effective in treating anxiety.

Quiet, see a doctor, and drop me an email if you'd like. I can share a wealth of information with you.

I take melatonin to help me sleep.

Quiet? Wrong thread - this is Roger's anxiety thread.

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I also want to add that Xanax and similar drugs are the worst of the worst and should be avoided if possible. Responsible doctors won't even prescribe them long term whatsoever. It is a highly addictive substance that is essentially like poppoing a case of beer per pill, plus some.

Using meds like Xanax long term will leave you a drug seeking addict most of the time. It is a bad situation and does NOTHING to treat the underlying cause of anxiety, it is simply sedating your entire system so you feel less.

SSRI's such as paxil, effexor and the like, address the PROBLEM which is a chemical imbalance. They have no sedative effect, they are not addictive or habit forming, and they are not a narcotic. They quite simply aim to fix the chemical imbalance that is causing the problem.

They won't work for everyone but they do for millions every day.

When you first goto the doctor Quit, he will want to do some bloodwork to rule out a thyroid problem. He will also do a catacholomine test and extensive urine analysis. He'll check to make sure you don't have adrenal problems etc.

Once/if he rules out those types of things, he'll most likely start to talk to you about your medication options, at the top of which will be the SSRI's and similar drugs that work for so many by addressing the likely culprit, a serotonin imbalance in the brain.

If he tells you that Xanax and other similar sedating drugs are a long term treatment option before exhausting ALL other med options first, RUN as fast as you can out of that office and find a new doctor.

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Oops did I post these in the wrong anxiety thread?

Well actually its the right thread, in that I wanted to debunk the innaccurate info about meds. But wrong in that I addressed Quiet. Hopefully he'll see the messages.

Good luck to you too Roger. Drop me an Email anytime.
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My first panic attack that I can actually recall being a panic attack (because according to my parents they actually occured at a much younger age as well) was about 4 years ago.

I was sitting in front of my laptop working on a project. I had just given up my 9-5 as a GM for the Taco Bell corporation and all the benefits along with it.

This project was sort of a do or die kind of project. Anyway I noticed i was getting lightheaded and nauseous.

I went to the bathroom and tossed my cookies and next thing I know I could not breathe.

I thought I was dying.

This set of a series of evens where I was in and out of the hospital every other night for about 3 months straight.

I just knew something physical was wrong with me and that the doctors were just failing to diagnose me correctly.

It got to the point where I was actually afraid to go to sleep...this was the "acute" phase.

It got to a point where I was almost afraid to go outside. I planned trips around town so that all routes would take me by a hospital, or at least near one.

I ended up in the hospital due to exhaustion from lack of sleep.

I was put on paxil and that drug was a life saver for me.

However I did not want to spend the rest of my life taking a pill so I did anything and everything I could to control these damn things.

I learned watching various documentaries and reading various reports that there is an actual thing in your brain that is triggered that tells you that you are suffocating.

And when you start to have a panic attack if you really pay attention you will realize you are actually holding your breath...and this is what helps trigger that suffocating feeling.

So slow down...step away from what it is you are doing and take deep slow breaths.

I know for some that all this shit seems crazy...and quite frankly it is. Because it's not real in the sense that you are suffering from any actual physical malady. But it is real...very real in the sense that your body and mind react as though you were.

Your blood pressure, adrenaline etc is all elevated as though you are actually experiencing a near death experience...and for all practical purposes you are.

But I sat down one night while laying in the hospital waiting for some adovan to calm me down to kick in and I just told myself that I was tired of dying...and it was time to start living again.

And that's what I did.

That is not to say I do not have any panic attacks at all.

I have a few small ones daily. They are quite insignificant it's my fear trying to win again.


We had simliar experiences.

I went through something like this for about 4 months (3 years ago).

It just happened one day out of the blue. I was sitting at my computer and all of a sudden, i felt like i couldn't breathe...than as it progressed, I started to shake a little, followed by total nausea.

Needless to say, i was scared shitless. I really thought that was it.....and i was dead. I laided on the floor and called my girl in who was in the other room. We went to the doctor, and ofcourse, they found nothing wrong. Said i was very healthy.

The worst thing was that I didn't understand what was happening to me, and know one else knew either. They talked about stress, but i'm quite active physically and i wasn't under any severe pressure at the time.

I surf pretty much daily (waves), and workout quite a bit.

From then on, every fucking day i was feeling like shit. Faint, nausea, etc. I kept going back to the doctors, couldn't eat, felt sick constantly.

You know what it really felt like? It felt like my brain and my body were separated. It sounds weird, but i don't no any other way to explain it.

They wanted to give me drugs, but i wasn't about to take that shit...no way. Last thing on earth that i needed to do was cover this up and hide the real cause. There was a conflict somewhere inside that i wanted to find myself. Hell, i HAD to find it.

After about the 3rd month, i woke up one day and decided i was seriously "sick of being sick."

Eventually i got over it after making that decision. Though it certainly left a scar and something i will never forget. The experience cannot be compared to anything else out there. It was one of the worst things i ever went through. I still have no idea what was wrong, but i wrote it off as a panic attack after doing some research.

Few things to consider.
- Do NOT take drugs. It will only hide the true issue, and you won't heal.
- Realise that this is your bodies way of telling you that it needs a change. Weather it's more exercise, etc.
- When you reached your limit/patience, and your truly "sick of being sick," (you'll know when that happens) just go about your life and tell yourself, "im done with this shit." Don't be scared of it and do not cater to it. Just go about your day and do what you do normally, (with ofcourse adding some healthy changes.) It is tough, but it's all about mind over matter.

What i found it to be, beside physical, it's a lot of the mind and body being out of sync. Just gotta bring it back together.

Roger, hit me anytime.
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I also have an anxiety disorder that I need to get checked out. When my dad died, earlier this year it hit me really bad, I couldn't get on the web for weeks, pissed off some customers..I'm sure some of you remember.

I guess I've been stalling to see a doc (was diagnosed by my marriage counsellor a few years ago), I get anxiety about taking any pills..hehe..a little bit of paranoia maybe.
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ok im starting to feel like i'm the only one who DOESN'T have panick attacks...
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Wow, old thread alert, LOL
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One word... P-A-X-I-L

That cause of panic attacks is completely understood and 10 years ago doctors had no clue what it was. I've heard paxil is one of the best for stopping it.
Stay away from paxil....

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I took Paxil and Zoloft for a few years, it helped. What really got me over the hump was vigorous and frequent exercise (BJJ) and a drastic decrease in how much Marijuana I smoke. In fact I don't smoke at all now, every time I try it's an instant panic attack.

Think of it as a biological rather than a mental problem Roger, because that's what it is, and a doctor can certainly fix you up. I highly recommend the exercise as well.
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Wow, old thread alert, LOL
lol I didn't even notice
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lol I didn't even notice
I still get them sometimes but not nearly as much as before
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I still get them sometimes but not nearly as much as before
Well you can always hit me up if you want to talk it over. They're no fun. I have a place in Vegas now, maybe I'll get it a chance to show it off to you during the convention ;)
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Wow!!!

Damn stress, a tornado hit my grandma's house yrs ago...an F5! Did some major damage and killed alot of people and animals, long story short...My family wasn't
home ( aunt lived next door to grandma) they weren't going to let anyone in the
"hit" area, so my family went to stay with other family members.

Then 30 mins later, they said if ur addy on your DL matches the addy's hit, you
can run in for 30 mins, get what you can and get out. The blood hound's were
still out looking for dead people, My Grandma was poor growing up and did well
through the years, so I ran in and found all her stashed $$ as I use to live with
her and I knew where it was. Scared me to death, it smelled awful and I didn't
want to stubble on any dead bodies!!!

5 yrs go by, no tornado's...then 1 morning I wake to sirens going off at 8 am!

PANIC ATTACK hell, from there on!

#1. Paxil helps like no other, but the side effects are horrible, if you run out of meds.!
#2. Xanax is a blessing, but don't abuse it!!!
#3. I paid big $$ to go through a program, just when it started to work, my Doctor said get on Paxil now ( I was having a hard time working, scared to leave the house)
so I did, and you can't fight something that doesn't happen, due to the meds. working!

I'am so surprised I didn't do something insane, as I hated to be stuck in traffic!

Good Luck! Take walks and learn to really relax, like a rubber band and breath deep!

BTW: Nice metting you in Atlanta babe!!!

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To all you dumb mother fuckers that think drugs are the solution are dead wrong.


You underling generations are fucking retarded thinking that Drugs solve problems.

Hey I got a novel idea, its called fucking life and health and Anxiety is just one of things that happens. Guess what the cure is you dipshits.

EXCERSISE. EAT WELL.

THEY GO AWAY!

Fucking morons.


So Roger...

Start excersising, get a good diet, get fresh air often. Cut out the coffee or slow it down. Its a god damn miracle I tell really. I suffered Anxiety Attacks and changed my diet, and excersised and you know I live a hi stress life. Guess what...
No More Anxiety Attacks.

Fuck that heart racing shit and a numb mind feeling with dizzyness wondering if ya gonna die all of a sudden.
Ya just need a good diet, rest and excersise. They will stop.

Trust meh!

The only thing ya might consider doing is going to your doctor and getting a check up make sure nothing is really wrong but do not take his nutso drugs if nothing serious is wrong, like bad Blood Sugar or what not.

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To all you dumb mother fuckers that think drugs are the solution are dead wrong.


You underling generations are fucking retarded thinking that Drugs solve problems.

Hey I got a novel idea, its called fucking life and health and Anxiety is just one of things that happens. Guess what the cure is you dipshits.

EXCERSISE. EAT WELL.

THEY GO AWAY!

Fucking morons.


So Roger...

Start excersising, get a good diet, get fresh air often. Cut out the coffee or slow it down. Its a god damn miracle I tell really. I suffered Anxiety Attacks and changed my diet, and excersised and you know I live a hi stress life. Guess what...
No More Anxiety Attacks.

Fuck that heart racing shit and a numb mind feeling with dizzyness wondering if ya gonna die all of a sudden.
Ya just need a good diet, rest and excersise. They will stop.

Trust meh!

The only thing ya might consider doing is going to your doctor and getting a check up make sure nothing is really wrong but do not take his nutso drugs if nothing serious is wrong, like bad Blood Sugar or what not.

Your designs look like they were done by a 12 year old blind kid. Your opinion is thus invalid.
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Similarly how you're cock is invalid?

Man I am devastated. Totally ruined. I dunno how I will ever get over this. I mean it came from you and you're solid reputation. I give up! You are much wiser than I am!

Stupid me.

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