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sarayamodel · 08-15-2002, 11:03 AM

Then please, by all means, email me asap.
obviously there are rude, callous people here who can't understand that its not "what you say" but HOW YOU SAY IT!!
I honestly didnt start out knowing anything about html.. and its really not all that hard to figure out with frontpage express, because you can use thier templates, etc..
ANYWAYS>... obiously my SITE SUCKS. And I want my site NOT to suck, so.. if any of you guys reading this would like to help me out, please please email me asap at [email protected]
Thanks!
S

Fletch XXX · 08-15-2002, 11:04 AM

Portfolio: http://69khz.com

Sly_RJ · 08-15-2002, 11:07 AM

Sorry, but I doubt FrontPage Express taught you HTML unless you look at the source code while building it. Please stop claiming that you know HTML if you really don't.

Fletch has good stuff, check him out.

Lane · 08-15-2002, 11:07 AM

uhmm.... we still havent seen your tits, have we?

you know the rules

Beastiepoo · 08-15-2002, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Sorry, but I doubt FrontPage Express taught you HTML unless you look at the source code while building it. Please stop claiming that you know HTML if you really don't.

Fletch has good stuff, check him out.

Or if you do wanna try and do it yourself then have a look at Dreamweaver. I found it much easier to use than FrontPage. Have a look at some of the sites kicking around in sigs and on banners and use your creativity and imagination. You seem to have ideas just need a better way to present them.

I'm sorry I said your site looked crap in the other thread. It still holds true but at least you are looking to change and improve. After you do some work let us know and we'll have another look. You'll still get bashed by a lot of people here but after a few days you'll get used to it.

Paul Markham · 08-15-2002, 11:19 AM

No matter how good you design a site, unless you have some better content you are not going to make money.

There's a personal "Single Girl" sites on the net where the girl is boasting she gives the greatest blow job imaginable, loves doing it, swallows every last drop and loves every minute.

It has the plainest design possible, but it kicks ass. I think by the quality of some of the pics it's not so amateur??

Then there is your site, nice artistic pics but nothing to get a surfers dick up and uuntil you do that you will not get paid.

Just my

kinkyplace · 08-15-2002, 11:31 AM

I just wonder about one thing... you said that you finally got that site up, but it says "Copyright 2001" on it. Does that mean that it took you more than eight months to build it?

Why are you getting so upset when people say that it sucks? It does.

My advice: find a partner (business, not sexual) who knows about that stuff. This time sign a contract.

gothweb · 08-15-2002, 11:38 AM

Saraya,

You got a nasty reception here. I should point out that it is par for the course. If you were looking for a friendly board, look elsewhere. A lot of bigwigs (and a lot of vocal nobodys like me) post here. It is a great place to learn... but people generally won't be nice about it.

Part of the problem was you looked like you were spamming. The truth is, though 9 out of every 10 new people on the board do the same thing. Like you, they take some crap about it. Best thing to do is move on.

Then there is your site. It is really bad. There's no nice way to say it, but I don't say it to be mean. There are people on this board who can design you a premium site for a few hundred bucks. If you have the money, it's worth the investment. There are also people who can help you with the site you have, giving you some free advice. However, it is hard to walk someone through making a bad site into a good one.

My advice for you is to consider hiring someone like Fletch, Hungryman, or Set the World on Fire to make you a better site. It won't be cheap, but you will like the results, and so will your viewers. If you can't afford that, then my advice is to check out their portfolios, and some of the other sites linked from here. Compare what we do to what you've got... You can learn a lot just by paying attention to things like that. It's how I learned design. I'm no expert, but I do okay.

Good luck with it all. And don't take these assholes too seriously, they're mostly big cupcakes once you get to know them.

Ian

redshift · 08-15-2002, 11:43 AM

will work for BJ - call me

Sly_RJ · 08-15-2002, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb

Good luck with it all. And don't take these assholes too seriously, they're mostly big cupcakes once you get to know them.

Ian

Some of us are more on the Twinkie side.

gothweb · 08-15-2002, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Some of us are more on the Twinkie side.

Point taken.

Babaganoosh · 08-15-2002, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Some of us are more on the Twinkie side.

Speak for yourself, snookie wookums.

Babaganoosh · 08-15-2002, 12:01 PM

Maybe it's my imagination, but this person comes off more like a young male trying to play the part of a hottie. If she were really this person who is featured on the site, I can guarantee that "she" whould have some real content of herself up. In her first post (http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=72274) she stated the some photographer did a shoot and was to help her build a site. Anyone notice the content there? It is all from different places and most of it looks like it was scanned. Sorry, but I smell bullshit.

If it isn't bullshit, then you need to take some initiative. Save your pennies and hire a designer. You aren't going to get a handout from any experienced webmasters/designers. The internet is filled with hot women looking to be the next Jenna. One could spend all day, every day helping out these "poor helpless girls". We all know better. If you want help, PAY FOR IT.

Cheshire · 08-15-2002, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sarayamodel
Then please, by all means, email me asap.
obviously there are rude, callous people here who can't understand that its not "what you say" but HOW YOU SAY IT!!
I honestly didnt start out knowing anything about html.. and its really not all that hard to figure out with frontpage express, because you can use thier templates, etc..
ANYWAYS>... obiously my SITE SUCKS. And I want my site NOT to suck, so.. if any of you guys reading this would like to help me out, please please email me asap at [email protected]
Thanks!
S

It's always good to Learn about a place before you start running around inside it. You're starting to appear a little frantic, which I'm sure is not your intention at all. Patience dear one, patience.

tree · 08-15-2002, 12:36 PM

you suck and so does your site

here is some help... format c:

Ace-Ace · 08-15-2002, 12:44 PM

Funny how girls get "Get ahold of me here" and guys get "GO FUCK YOURSELF NEWBIE"

Arousal Design · 08-15-2002, 12:48 PM

Get a real site design. You're never going to be able to make a proper site with the skills you have, period. You might spend some dough but in the long run it'll be better for you.

fiveyes · 08-15-2002, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ace-Ace
Funny how girls get "Get ahold of me here" and guys get "GO FUCK YOURSELF NEWBIE"

Well, speaking for myself, I don't want guys to "Get ahold of me there"...

Honeyslut · 08-15-2002, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ace-Ace
Funny how girls get "Get ahold of me here" and guys get "GO FUCK YOURSELF NEWBIE"

I don't get any " get ahold of me" crap.

Sly_RJ · 08-15-2002, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeyslut

I don't get any " get ahold of me" crap.

You can get a hold of me any time you want!

Naughty · 08-15-2002, 01:08 PM

Besides clicking on my signature and pay for a better design, there is always a way most people who learned HTML before there was WYSIWYG. Try "html tutorial" in Google, it will get a you VERY far.

Bizzump · 08-15-2002, 01:13 PM

tits dammit!

kosmic · 08-15-2002, 01:14 PM

You should look up some free Web design templates, or go to a site called www.webmonkey.com good tutorials. Everyone here is a ball buster and you will learn that quickly.

If you don't learn quick in this industry, you sink.

tara · 08-15-2002, 01:44 PM

You guys are so mean! Didn't your parents teach you if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all!

Sarayamodel you have mail! Contact me....I will help you !

Swiftone · 08-15-2002, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fiveyes

Well, speaking for myself, I don't want guys to "Get ahold of me there"...

What's wrong with you?

OzKaNoz · 08-15-2002, 02:43 PM

Sarayamodel
You got mail. I may even be willing to do a simple design for you.

Oz

Big E · 08-15-2002, 04:36 PM

Is this the same Saraya that shot for Exit Traffic in Orlando a couple years back?

CptNemo · 08-15-2002, 05:45 PM

nothin like giving someone a little encouragement, guys.
so she needs help with site. she asked for help.
anyway, saraya, lots will help you with site.
content looks ok to me .

Honeyslut · 08-15-2002, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

You can get a hold of me any time you want!

Blush

sarayamodel · 08-16-2002, 08:10 AM

Is this the same Saraya that shot for Exit Traffic in Orlando a couple years back?

Yep, Eric.. That would be me!

Nice to see ya around! why don't you shoot me an email? [email protected]

Hooterdog · 08-16-2002, 09:39 AM

Celine Dion?

Jakke PNG · 08-16-2002, 09:43 AM

http://sarayahope.com/ really is one of the ugliest sites I have ever seen.

Check my signature if you want me to do ya one slightly better. Not much, but a bit.

08-15-2002, 11:03 AM	#1
sarayamodel Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Albany NY area Posts: 9	If you can HELP me rather than slamming MY attempt.. Then please, by all means, email me asap. obviously there are rude, callous people here who can't understand that its not "what you say" but HOW YOU SAY IT!! I honestly didnt start out knowing anything about html.. and its really not all that hard to figure out with frontpage express, because you can use thier templates, etc.. ANYWAYS>... obiously my SITE SUCKS. And I want my site NOT to suck, so.. if any of you guys reading this would like to help me out, please please email me asap at [email protected] Thanks! S __________________ http://www.sarayahope.com Saraya xooxoxoxoox

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08-15-2002, 11:31 AM	#7
kinkyplace Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 217	I just wonder about one thing... you said that you finally got that site up, but it says "Copyright 2001" on it. Does that mean that it took you more than eight months to build it? Why are you getting so upset when people say that it sucks? It does. My advice: find a partner (business, not sexual) who knows about that stuff. This time sign a contract.

08-15-2002, 11:38 AM	#8
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Saraya, You got a nasty reception here. I should point out that it is par for the course. If you were looking for a friendly board, look elsewhere. A lot of bigwigs (and a lot of vocal nobodys like me) post here. It is a great place to learn... but people generally won't be nice about it. Part of the problem was you looked like you were spamming. The truth is, though 9 out of every 10 new people on the board do the same thing. Like you, they take some crap about it. Best thing to do is move on. Then there is your site. It is really bad. There's no nice way to say it, but I don't say it to be mean. There are people on this board who can design you a premium site for a few hundred bucks. If you have the money, it's worth the investment. There are also people who can help you with the site you have, giving you some free advice. However, it is hard to walk someone through making a bad site into a good one. My advice for you is to consider hiring someone like Fletch, Hungryman, or Set the World on Fire to make you a better site. It won't be cheap, but you will like the results, and so will your viewers. If you can't afford that, then my advice is to check out their portfolios, and some of the other sites linked from here. Compare what we do to what you've got... You can learn a lot just by paying attention to things like that. It's how I learned design. I'm no expert, but I do okay. Good luck with it all. And don't take these assholes too seriously, they're mostly big cupcakes once you get to know them. Ian __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

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Babaganoosh ♥♥♥ Likes Hugs ♥♥♥ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: /home Posts: 15,841	Maybe it's my imagination, but this person comes off more like a young male trying to play the part of a hottie. If she were really this person who is featured on the site, I can guarantee that "she" whould have some real content of herself up. In her first post (http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=72274) she stated the some photographer did a shoot and was to help her build a site. Anyone notice the content there? It is all from different places and most of it looks like it was scanned. Sorry, but I smell bullshit. If it isn't bullshit, then you need to take some initiative. Save your pennies and hire a designer. You aren't going to get a handout from any experienced webmasters/designers. The internet is filled with hot women looking to be the next Jenna. One could spend all day, every day helping out these "poor helpless girls". We all know better. If you want help, PAY FOR IT.

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tree Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,601	you suck and so does your site here is some help... format c:

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Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,482	Besides clicking on my signature and pay for a better design, there is always a way most people who learned HTML before there was WYSIWYG. Try "html tutorial" in Google, it will get a you VERY far. __________________ seks.ai for sale - ping me Last edited by Naughty; 08-15-2002 at 01:09 PM..

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Bizzump So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 32	tits dammit!

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08-15-2002, 01:44 PM	#24
tara Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 489	You guys are so mean! Didn't your parents teach you if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all! Sarayamodel you have mail! Contact me....I will help you !

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Big E Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 935	Is this the same Saraya that shot for Exit Traffic in Orlando a couple years back?

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CptNemo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sunshine Bay, BC Posts: 66	nothin like giving someone a little encouragement, guys. so she needs help with site. she asked for help. anyway, saraya, lots will help you with site. content looks ok to me . __________________ 1diver Last edited by CptNemo; 08-15-2002 at 06:10 PM..

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sarayamodel Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Albany NY area Posts: 9	Is this the same Saraya that shot for Exit Traffic in Orlando a couple years back? Yep, Eric.. That would be me! Nice to see ya around! why don't you shoot me an email? [email protected] __________________ http://www.sarayahope.com Saraya xooxoxoxoox

08-16-2002, 09:39 AM	#31
Hooterdog Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cincy Posts: 602	Celine Dion?

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Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	http://sarayahope.com/ really is one of the ugliest sites I have ever seen. Check my signature if you want me to do ya one slightly better. Not much, but a bit. __________________ ..and I'm off.