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Splum 04-09-2007 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12228444)
He confused the actual facts a little. Jesse Jackson went to Iran and successfully negotiated the realase of an American Airforce pilot just before the hostages were released. His impact on the release of the hostages has not been discussed much.

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12228446)
Maybe it was Syria...I don't give a shit. I'm just saying that he is trying to mention that event but the facts are not correct.

And your facts are not correct either, Jesse Jackson had NOTHING to do with any hostage in Iran.

You want to know who secured the release of the hostages?
Republican President Ronald Reagan. Bow down.

Sly 04-09-2007 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12228444)
He confused the actual facts a little.

Jesse Jackson went to Iran and successfully negotiated the realase of an American Airforce pilot just before the hostages were released.

His impact on the release of the hostages has not been discussed much.

Every source I'm seeing says Syria. Not Iran.

Negotiating a hostage release is great and all, but those are 2 pretty different events that both had very different impacts.

yota71 04-09-2007 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12228413)
If you would have searched my posts you would know I am a black man idiot. Good try.

A Far Right black man, if that's true than it's even more screwed up that you have so much racially motivated hatred and I apologize for not knowing that.

Splum, I may disagree with you on things but I will never resort to calling names. I't shows weakness I can make my point without name calling.

Come at me like a grown man ,I have always given you the same respect

sortie 04-09-2007 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 12228450)
Every source I'm seeing says Syria. Not Iran.

Negotiating a hostage release is great and all, but those are 2 pretty different events that both had very different impacts.

Well forgive me for not looking it all up. I was just saying that J.J. did something else around that time that got attention but he didn't realse the hostages from Iran.

So I got the country wrong...as if anyone in America knew the differnce before 911. :1orglaugh

EBORG9 04-09-2007 07:56 PM

Ok OK! I was wrong. He helped free hostages in other countries. My bad.
What do you want, I was 8. There was a lot of Hostage taking going around at the time. I got it mixed up.

Jackson also became a global diplomat. Since the mid-'80s, he's helped negotiate freedom for captive Americans in Syria, Kosovo, and Cuba. And, he's met with world leaders from Nelson Mandela to Hugo Chavez.

sortie 04-09-2007 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yota71 (Post 12228456)
A Far Right black man, if that's true than it's even more screwed up that you have so much racially motivated hatred and I apologize for not knowing that.

Splum, I may disagree with you on things but I will never resort to calling names. I't shows weakness I can make my point without name calling.

Come at me like a grown man ,I have always given you the same respect

HAHAHA! You believed him...:1orglaugh :helpme

Sly 04-09-2007 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12228447)
And your facts are not correct either, Jesse Jackson had NOTHING to do with any hostage in Iran.

You want to know who secured the release of the hostages?
Republican President Ronald Reagan. Bow down.

Not really. And if he did, then there's a huge conspiracy and some people could be facing serious jail time. But the conspiracy already got debunked.

The man credited with securing the release was an Algerian diplomat named Abdulkarim Ghuraib.

ry0t 04-09-2007 08:00 PM

When youre on a national tv and radio syndicate you do not fucking go around calling a womens basketball team that has black players anything racial. You have to be a fucking moron for that. That guys old and isnt up with the times. It is like when your old fucking dad tries to say something cool and ends up looking like a fucking jackass.

Splum 04-09-2007 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by yota71 (Post 12228456)
A Far Right black man, if that's true than it's even more screwed up that you have so much racially motivated hatred and I apologize for not knowing that. Splum, I may disagree with you on things but I will never resort to calling names. I't shows weakness I can make my point without name calling. Come at me like a grown man ,I have always given you the same respect

The fact that you think a black man cant be conservative in regards to government and liberal in most social issues just shows how fucking programmed by the media you are. Sorry to break your stereotype of black people.

Weakness is to be hurt by words, not by saying them. Especially when words are true it takes strong character to speak the truth.

yota71 04-09-2007 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12228471)
HAHAHA! You believed him...:1orglaugh :helpme

Wasn't sure : A Far Right black man, IF THATS TRUE than it's even more screwed up that you have so much racially motivated hatred and I apologize for not knowing that.

It does happen...:1orglaugh

Digipimp 04-09-2007 08:02 PM

man its the way it goes these days. racisim is such a touchy subject you cant even defend he even though he wasnt being racist or you're thrown in the fucking lake with him.

i watch his show on msnbc every morning and was watching that morning when it happened. taken in context of how the show is and from watching the show it wasnt much of anything. it wasnt that funny but it definitely wasnt said in a racist way.

EBORG9 04-09-2007 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ry0t (Post 12228475)
When youre on a national tv and radio syndicate you do not fucking go around calling a womens basketball team that has black players anything racial. You have to be a fucking moron for that. That guys old and isnt up with the times. It is like when your old fucking dad tries to say something cool and ends up looking like a fucking jackass.

My whole point. Thank you.

sortie 04-09-2007 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ry0t (Post 12228475)
When youre on a national tv and radio syndicate you do not fucking go around calling a womens basketball team that has black players anything racial. You have to be a fucking moron for that. That guys old and isnt up with the times. It is like when your old fucking dad tries to say something cool and ends up looking like a fucking jackass.

He should have considered the college these girls went to!
He could have said "these are some manly girls" and the college would have been in his ass about that.
The college felt insulted and people have lost point of that in all the "black and white" shit.

He was stupid in my opinion.

selena 04-09-2007 08:06 PM

I can't stand Jesse Jackson or Al Sharton.

That said, I think that calling collegiate athletes 'ho's' is way out of line, and I hope they fine the shit out of him.

Splum 04-09-2007 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ry0t (Post 12228475)
When youre on a national tv and radio syndicate you do not fucking go around calling a womens basketball team that has black players anything racial. You have to be a fucking moron for that. That guys old and isnt up with the times. It is like when your old fucking dad tries to say something cool and ends up looking like a fucking jackass.

I love how you blame him for saying anything "discriminatory" then turn right around and call him something "discriminatory". What a fucking hypocrite.

Splum 04-09-2007 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EBORG9 (Post 12228465)
Ok OK! I was wrong. He helped free hostages in other countries. My bad. What do you want, I was 8. There was a lot of Hostage taking going around at the time. I got it mixed up.

I know you are mixed up, most liberals are. Its ok by the time you get out of your teens and your moms basement those feelings will pass.

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Originally Posted by EBORG9 (Post 12228465)
Jackson also became a global diplomat. Since the mid-'80s, he's helped negotiate freedom for captive Americans in Syria, Kosovo, and Cuba. And, he's met with world leaders from Nelson Mandela to Hugo Chavez.

Do you notice a trend there? All of them hate Jews. Basically Jesse Jackson was amongst friends.

yota71 04-09-2007 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12228477)
The fact that you think a black man cant be conservative in regards to government and liberal in most social issues just shows how fucking programmed by the media you are. Sorry to break your stereotype of black people.

Weakness is to be hurt by words, not by saying them. Especially when words are true it takes strong character to speak the truth.

Trying to be-little another for your own benifit is weak especially behind a keyboard.
And nice try with the stereotype statement. I was talking about the racisim, not being conservative.

sortie 04-09-2007 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Digipimp (Post 12228481)
it wasnt that funny but it definitely wasnt said in a racist way.

You should consider the the term "nappy" has changed over the years where younger people use it differrently. It was only a derogitory term 20 years ago. When you put that together with the guys age people are not going to assume he is some youngster with new views about the word.

EBORG9 04-09-2007 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Digipimp (Post 12228481)
man its the way it goes these days. racisim is such a touchy subject you cant even defend he even though he wasnt being racist or you're thrown in the fucking lake with him.

i watch his show on msnbc every morning and was watching that morning when it happened. taken in context of how the show is and from watching the show it wasnt much of anything. it wasnt that funny but it definitely wasnt said in a racist way.

It's not that touchy, just don't call people "Nappy headed ho's on TV"
That would be offensive to any womens team, regardless of race. If they were Jews, (and we all know some Jews have kinky hair), it would have been just as offensive. "Jigga Boo's" just put the icing on his cake. That guy should be gone too, if Imus is.
That would be like if I grabbed a girls ass at the club, I might be able to make it out alive, but then my friend comes up right behind that, and pops her bra strap.
Fuel to what would have been a small fire.

ry0t 04-09-2007 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12228501)
I love how you blame him for saying anything "discriminatory" then turn right around and call him something "discriminatory". What a fucking hypocrite.

I knew someone would say some bullshit like that. Yeah whatever dude.

Sly 04-09-2007 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12228516)
You should consider the the term "nappy" has changed over the years where younger people use it differrently. It was only a derogitory term 20 years ago. When you put that together with the guys age people are not going to assume he is some youngster with new views about the word.

Do you watch the guys show? Did you see the episode in question?

sortie 04-09-2007 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12228506)
All of them hate Jews. Basically Jesse Jackson was amongst friends.

And you love Jews right??? :1orglaugh

Dude, get serious...we have a search box you know.

sortie 04-09-2007 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 12228533)
Do you watch the guys show? Did you see the episode in question?

No, I didn't see it but I would never say something like that based on my age and what I know about how the word was used before.

Sorry, but I think he was stupid to say that.

Sly 04-09-2007 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12228548)
And you love Jews right??? :1orglaugh

Dude, get serious...we have a search box you know.

Jesse Jackson does have quite the history of making anti-semetic remarks. I don't really care what he does, but isn't it a little funny for him to flip out about black comments while making Jewish comments?

Digipimp 04-09-2007 08:18 PM

i know most of the people commenting have never seen or heard the show. its not a racist thing on there, they make fun of everyone all the time

Splum 04-09-2007 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12228548)
And you love Jews right??? :1orglaugh Dude, get serious...we have a search box you know.

Huh? I dont hate Jews or love them.

Sly 04-09-2007 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Digipimp (Post 12228572)
i know most of the people commenting have never seen or heard the show. its not a racist thing on there, they make fun of everyone all the time

Exactly. I've never seen the show but from what I've heard from people who HAVE, it isn't right to come along and pick out one "racial" comment amongst many simply because it fits a political agenda (i.e. Jesse Jackson.)

sortie 04-09-2007 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 12228565)
Jesse Jackson does have quite the history of making anti-semetic remarks. I don't really care what he does, but isn't it a little funny for him to flip out about black comments while making Jewish comments?

I heard the "Hymie Town" thing...also the "chocolate city" thing which seems like the same to me. Hymie is a Jewish name and not a slur.

So nobody said anything about "chocolate city". Hmmmmm?
I guess he can say that because he's black.

So what are the other "history of anti-semetic" things?

Sly 04-09-2007 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12228588)
So what are the other "history of anti-semetic" things?

Here's a small snippet, though maybe not totally anti-semetic I don't think he'll be celebrating Hanukkah anytime soon:
Jackson has been criticized for some of the remarks he has made about Jews and Jewish issues: that Nixon was less attentive to poverty in the U.S. because "four out of five [of Nixon's top advisors] are German Jews and their priorities are on Europe and Asia"; that he was "sick and tired of hearing about the Holocaust"; that there are "very few Jewish reporters that have the capacity to be objective about Arab affairs"; [7] In addition Rev. Jackson had referred to Jews as "Hymies" and to New York City as "Hymietown" in January 1984 during a conversation with Washington Post reporter, Milton Coleman. [8].

I love how this thread has gone from a basketball team. To Iran. To Jesse Jackson. Let's get some Jerry Falwell in next.

Splum 04-09-2007 08:36 PM

Full video of Imus being crucified on The Sharpton Show
http://wcbstv.com/video/[email protected]

EBORG9 04-09-2007 08:37 PM

Well all of that is true, Nixon was an arrogant, paranoid prick.
and Jews hate Arabs.

For my taste, Jesse, AL, Luis ...they all go overboard sometimes.
But that's them. They are political.

It's not always my opinion, nor are they speaking for all black people, but everyone should be held for remarks that are in direct conflict with civil rights, when speaking publicly.
Not a private Klan rally. (that's different, they have a constitutional right)
but on MSNBC, dude, you are just wrong.

sortie 04-09-2007 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 12228618)
Nixon was less attentive to poverty in the U.S. because "four out of five [of Nixon's top advisors] are German Jews and their priorities are on Europe and Asia"; that he was "sick and tired of hearing about the Holocaust"; that there are "very few Jewish reporters that have the capacity to be objective about Arab affairs.

OK,

So, a person must hate Jews if they think enough movies about the holocaust have been made.

Nixon really did care about poverty and Vietnam wasn't on his mind.

And Jews do not aggressively support Israel in their reporting.

I've been educated...thanks.

Splum 04-09-2007 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by EBORG9 (Post 12228667)
Well all of that is true, Nixon was an arrogant, paranoid prick. and Jews hate Arabs. For my taste, Jesse, AL, Luis ...they all go overboard sometimes. But that's them. They are political. It's not always my opinion, nor are they speaking for all black people, but everyone should be held for remarks that are in direct conflict with civil rights, when speaking publicly.
Not a private Klan rally. (that's different, they have a constitutional right)
but on MSNBC, dude, you are just wrong.

Wait so let me get this straight, its ok for Jesse Jackson to denigrate Jews in a public interview for a newspaper and only issue an apology much later but if Don Imus says "nappy headed hoes" when making a joke about a rough and tumble black womens basketball team on the radio and then apologize immediately its not ok and he should lose his job?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...zy/jackson.htm

This is a fucking racist witch hunt.

sortie 04-09-2007 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12228735)
This is a fucking racist witch hunt.

All I see is that a guy who got paid millions to shoot of his mouth finally shot it off in the wrong direction and the radio station decided to save some loot and put him on ice.

You are just making the rest up.

EBORG9 04-09-2007 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12228735)
Wait so let me get this straight, its ok for Jesse Jackson to denigrate Jews in a public interview for a newspaper and only issue an apology much later but if Don Imus says "nappy headed hoes" when making a joke about a rough and tumble black womens basketball team on the radio and then apologize immediately its not ok and he should lose his job?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...zy/jackson.htm

This is a fucking racist witch hunt.

No not at all! What Jesse said was completely out of line. I still cringe when I hear it.
But there was no place to be fired from, he was speaking in an interview.
IMUS had a job. He did it on the job.

EBORG9 04-09-2007 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12228797)
All I see is that a guy who got paid millions to shoot of his mouth finally shot it off in the wrong direction and the radio station decided to save some loot and put him on ice.

You are just making the rest up.

No shit. that's the chance you take when you hire a loud mouth.
He's been on the radio since Bob Barker got the first Price right, if he hasn't banked up by now, he was never going to.
His people are probably talking to XM right now.

Splum 04-09-2007 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by EBORG9 (Post 12228802)
No not at all! What Jesse said was completely out of line. I still cringe when I hear it.
But there was no place to be fired from, he was speaking in an interview.
IMUS had a job. He did it on the job.

So does Stern, he did it for YEARS on regular air waves. So we can count on your vote for censorship. When they come for your website and try to censor you dont say we didnt tell you so.

Sly 04-09-2007 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12228683)
OK,

So, a person must hate Jews if they think enough movies about the holocaust have been made.

I think enough movies about segregation have been made and I'm tired of banks/mail being closed on MLK Day. I'm also sick of "poor blacks" using racism, discrimination, and the white man as a crutch and excuse for their failures.

What would happen if I made that statement publicly? What would happen to any white politician if they made that statement? They would be SLAUGHTERED.

sortie 04-09-2007 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum (Post 12228820)
So does Stern, he did it for YEARS on regular air waves. So we can count on your vote for censorship. When they come for your website and try to censor you dont say we didnt tell you so.

You can't compare this to censorship.
Imus getting put on ice is the same as a TGP owner deleting a gallery with banned words in it. People can post their bullshit to their own site, but you don't have to post it on your site.

Let Imus build a web site and say all the shit he wants; but don't expect some radio station to foot the bill for his "free speech" which cost 7 million dollars a year.

sortie 04-09-2007 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 12228845)
I'm tired of banks/mail being closed on MLK Day.

:1orglaugh

Now that was just stupid. A paid day off from work is a "paid day off from work". What part don't you get?


BTW: I'm not aware of any feature films about segregation.
Enlighten me.


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