Splum

101 catholic priests

If this is your theory prove that this is what causes homosexuality, you will win a nobel peace prize for sure. Until then its just a theory.

Pleasurepays

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pocketkangaroo

So if it's a choice. Are you saying that if you grew up like BoyAlley did, you would be a homosexual?

Pleasurepays

now peptide hormones and their function are a theory?

i guess since you didn't study elementary level biology, you can't be expected to know college level biology.

Splum

Owned loser.

Splum

Who knows? Thats like saying if you grew up like a pedo did that you would be a pedo?

Pleasurepays

basically he is saying that any day, he might wake up and choose to eat a mans hairy ass, get fucked in the ass... then spend hours making out with that man by choice and really love every minute of it... even possibly deciding to marry that man

Turboface

This thread cracks me up.

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Splum

Hah! Show me a scientific white paper where it says hormones cause homosexuality.

Splum

Same sex marriage and sodomy is outlawed mostly everywhere.

BoyAlley

pocketkangaroo

So if it's completely based on one's surroundings, it really isn't a choice, is it?

BoyAlley

Pleasurepays

as you said... you can "choose" to lick another mans brown hairy asshole and totally enjoy it, in the exact same way you can "choose" to break a law.

besides, i don't think you will "choose" to let the law get in the way of your new lover and deeply satisfying relationship.

BoyAlley

Splum

You guys crack me up ok ok let me get this straight....

Pedophiles, Homosexuals and Necrophiliacs arent at fault because of something "hormonal or genetic" that causes their deviant abnormal behavior?

Pleasurepays

how are they all the same thing?

the brain is a very complex organ. only a very tiny fraction of its function is understood. well... its poorly understood by science. apparently its well understood by some porn board moron who can't stop making an ass out of himself by making insanely stupid proclamations and declaring them fact.

pocketkangaroo

Completely different. Pedophiles and Necrophiliacs have sexual arousal to things that are illegal. While they are aroused by them, by law, they are at fault for acting upon those urges. Many straight men have sexual arousal for Jessica Simpson, but they would be at fault for raping her. They are not at fault for being sexually aroused to it, they are at fault for acting upon it and breaking the law.

SteppenWolf

In other threads you take your words and beliefs to the end, but for this topic you seems to avoid the issue and run...

And come on! Dont bring that pathetic threadview excuse. I dont run a sig and ever will... and hardly ever post.

I think its pretty clear at this point the answer to my original question is positive. But im still left with the curiosity regarding the details.

And again, being abused and the choice you made afterwards, doesnt turn you into a bad person. Just so you know.

Splum

Actually fucking men in the ass WAS illegal in most of the USA until 2003 so your counter-argument is weak. Technically most homosexuals in the United States should be convicted of that crime.

notabook

It was illegal in many parts of America for blacks and whites to get married. Humanity grew up a little ? as they did when they revoked such an archaic biblical sodomy law. We still have quite a bit of growing up to do.

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pocketkangaroo

Women voting, blacks having rights, and freedom of speech were all illegal at one time in this country.

You would also be a criminal yourself if you've ever received blowjob in your life.

Splum

Dude look your counter-argument to my pedophilia-homosexual-necrophilia connection was that two of those were involving illegal acts, I replied that up until 2003 so was homosexuality and all you can do is come back and talk about other old laws? So by YOUR comparison eventually pedophilia and necrophilia would be acceptable? You make no fucking sense.

Splum

What laws you gonna get rid of next? Shall we grow up and realize that fucking dead people is cool too? Get fucking real dude. Homosexual acts WERE illegal for a long time.

Splum

Oh and in response to BoyAlleys thread
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=721628
I suggest we celebrate homosexual soldier got murdered day on July 6th!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Winchell
Woohoo so much fun!

notabook

Receiving a blowjob also constituted as "sodomy" and was illegal in many states for a LONG time. Did that make it right to make it illegal?

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Splum

Lol your question is funny, I am not talking about right and wrong I am talking about what the laws were. All sexual deviancies will be a moral call by society as a whole.

notabook

Exactly right, and time and time again it is shown how the ?moral call? can hurt so many innocent people until such judgments are overturned by society itself, many times by the minority (judges/judicial decisions). Two gays of consensual age fucking each other doesn?t hurt anyone, just as a black man and white woman getting married hurt no one. There is a reason that such stupid archaic laws have been and are being repealed ? they have no logical reasoning behind them and only serve to disparage the minority. As odd as it sounds, these small steps show that humanity isn?t completely fucked in the head and can actually change over time.

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Splum

Fucking a dead person doesnt hurt anyone? Fucking animals doesnt hurt anyone?

notabook

A dead person cannot consent. An animal cannot consent. Two gay people can.

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pocketkangaroo

Sodomy caused no harm to anyone on this planet. Necrophilia and Pedophilia do. I stated that this country has had a lot of ass backwards laws in its past, including the sodomy one. I don't think you can classify sexual assault of a minor and fucking a corpse as the same thing as two consenting adults pleasuring each other in the form they want to.

Splum

So should consent is the basis of legality?

pocketkangaroo

Sodomy is not a strictly homosexual act. It involves oral and anal sex. In fact, it also includes masturbation.

So you are in the adult industry, and want masturbation to be made illegal? Wow.

Splum

Again laws are subjective based on the moral vibe of society as a whole, I wont go into history but even necrophilia was acceptable in some societies.

Lets get back to the issue, you said "hormones" cause homosexuality, so do they cause other things such as pedophilia? Also I would like you to give me a scientific source for your theory if thats not too much trouble.

Splum

Ok you need to stop putting words in my mouth. NEVER in this ENTIRE thread did I say that it should be illegal. This is the second time youve done this, it really is quite perplexing that you are reading into my "motives" for this argument.

notabook

When it comes to sex, of course. There are other considerations (such as harmful intent) but consent is the primary concern when it comes to sex. For example, a man who consensually allows another man to cut off his penis then eat it in an act of cannibalism would not be lawful even if both adults consented for obvious reasons. For the vast majority of cases though, adults of legal age of any sexual orientation can legally fuck each other because they can consent.

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Splum

Lol ok so consent isnt really the basis its just one guideline, you dont see where this is going?

pocketkangaroo

Hormones cause sexual arousal. I don't have my high school Biology book handy, but running a search for peptide hormones should provide you a plethora of results to research. It's the same stuff that major pharmaceutical companies are using in erectile dysfunction and sexual arousal disorder. I thought the debate on what causes sexual arousal in humans was closed a long time ago in the scientific community?

tony286

why do you waste your time going back and forth with him.If you dont hit the ball back he will go away.

pocketkangaroo

Perhaps someone logged into your account and wrote the following:

notabook

Consent is the primary guideline and it should always be. But you can't have it being an end-all-be-all thing. If a chick and I consented to cut off each others arms while fucking, we couldn't do that lawfully because of harmful intent. The fucking, sure. Sliced off limbs, nada. Two gays consenting to sex is lawful because there is no harmful intent. Both people (or multiple people if you are into that sorta thing) can consent to have sex, and since there is no harmful intent there is no logical reason to deny them. At this point you can only really fall back onto a crutch of religious morality since there is no logical reason to prevent two consenting adults, regardless of sexual orientation, from having sex.

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Gaybucks

At the risk of taking the thread back on topic:

The issue of sexual abuse and its correlation with sexuality is a complex one, and it's one I've actually spent some time studying (i.e., looking at clinical studies and references in the psychological literature)

Homosexuality (in the sense of sexual *orientation*) is genetically based and therefore hardwired, and pretty much no one except the Christian wingnuts disputes this any more. There's some pretty strong evidence for a biological basis.

HOWEVER, there is also a class of people with a sexual *preference* that may have been altered as a result of abuse they suffered. This can apply to both men and women, and comprises a very small percentage of the population who is attracted to same-sex relationships. However, most of the people that fall into this category have other issues that prevent them from having healthy sexual relationships of *any* type (same or opposite sex), which are secondary issues that appear to be caused by the abuse they suffered.

In other words, nearly all gays and lesbians are hardwired to be that way, but a small percentage of people may find themselves uncomfortable in relationships with the opposite sex as a result of abuse they suffered, but these people are not so much attracted to the same sex as they are repelled by the opposite sex as a result of the abuse.

Hardwired homosexuals cannot be made heterosexual any more than hardwired heterosexuals can be made homosexual.

Those of you who are straight guys, ask yourself if you think you could get therapy and learn to enjoy sucking dick and taking it up the ass from a guy. My guess is probably not. It's exactly the same for probably 99% of gay men and lesbians.

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Splum

I said technically they should be convicted based on the law, I didnt say I personally condone that law idiot.

pocketkangaroo

Your post was made after someone pointed out that sodomy was legal. Try again.

Splum

I sure would like to see "hard" scientific *proof* of this, and dont get excited because I used the word "hard".

notabook

You know what man? FUCK YOU. I was just about to bust out the Chewbacca defense, you've ruined EVERYTHING you fucking faggot

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Splum

I should have used the words "SHOULD HAVE BEEN" instead of "SHOULD BE" that is the only difference.

Splum

Just for public record, I dont hate homosexuals or homosexuality, matter of fact some of my favorite musical artists are faggots.

pocketkangaroo

Ok, so you felt people should have been convicted of sodomy back in the day? That everytime you received a blowjob you'd be given a ticket?

Technically you thought it was still legal as your earlier post points out. So you are telling me that you entered into the porn industry all the while believing that people should be convicted of masturbating in their own homes? Do you see how crazy that is? It would be like selling cookies and being for the conviction of people who eat them.

Splum

Dude look "SHOULD" does not reflect my personal opinion, I am saying SHOULD as in a matter of the fact of the LAW. Just like a shoplifter who gets away with shoplifting should have been caught and punished, do I care? no. does the law care? yes. Get it straight.

Like I said before I like faggots dude I think they are funny.