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Old 04-06-2007, 10:17 AM   #1
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BoyAlley, were you ABUSED as a child?

Almost a certain fact inside the scientific community is that homosexual
behavior start to build up after an abuse as a child.

This is particularly true among men, so im curious to hear what's your origin. Abuse dont necessarily means physical, as in a rape, but can also be an overwhelming mother cutting your relations with other persons of the same sex, etc.

I know you probably have it deep buried into your conscience... I dont blame you, traumatic moments end there. It's our brain self-preservation mechanism.

But Im confident we can get you to talk about it.

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Old 04-06-2007, 10:21 AM   #2
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I thought it had something to do with priests?!?
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#1 BoyAlley probably isnt really homosexual its a board personality
#2 Most homosexuals would never admit the fact that you are probably right
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#1 BoyAlley probably isnt really homosexual its a board personality
#2 Most homosexuals would never admit the fact that you are probably right
Nah, he makes a better homo than Chio does a pirate, so I believe he is gay.
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Almost a certain fact inside the scientific community is that homosexual
behavior start to build up after an abuse as a child.

This is particularly true among men, so im curious to hear what's your origin.
No I was never physically or mentally abused. Yes I had (and have) a great relationship with BOTH of my parents.

This theories of yours are the ones being pushed by Christian Evangelicals. If you watched CNN last night you could see these freak groups right before the segment about the XXX Church freaks.

These Christian "scientists" are of the same variety that will try to convince you that the earth is only 6,000 years old, evolution is false, and humans and dinosaurs roamed the earth at the same time.

The scientific community, including the American Psychiatric Association, The American Medical Association, and dozens of other professional scientific trade groups, all disavow those christian theories as bullshit.

It's nature, not nurture.

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Nah, he makes a better homo than Chio does a pirate, so I believe he is gay.
OMG you mean Chio isn't a real pirate?!?!?!?!??!?!
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I thought it had something to do with priests?!?
Reading his last post about Jesus and Easter, calling him a prick with delusions of grandeur, im betting his abuse had something to do with a priest... lol

i could be wrong though.
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No I was never physically or mentally abused. Yes I had (and have) a great relationship with BOTH of my parents.

This theories of yours are the ones being pushed by Christian Evangelicals. If you watched CNN last night you could see these freak groups right before the segment about the XXX Church freaks.

These Christian "scientists" are of the same variety that will try to convince you that the earth is only 6,000 years old, evolution is false, and humans and dinosaurs roamed the earth at the same time.

The scientific community, including the American Psychiatric Association, The American Medical Association, and dozens of other professional scientific trade groups, all disavow those christian theories as bullshit.

It's nature, not nurture.
can i get an amen?! or in your case boyalley, i'll get you two-mens!
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I see so you were born gay.
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No I was never physically or mentally abused. Yes I had (and have) a great relationship with BOTH of my parents.

This theories of yours are the ones being pushed by Christian Evangelicals. If you watched CNN last night you could see these freak groups right before the segment about the XXX Church freaks.

These Christian "scientists" are of the same variety that will try to convince you that the earth is only 6,000 years old, evolution is false, and humans and dinosaurs roamed the earth at the same time.

The scientific community, including the American Psychiatric Association, The American Medical Association, and dozens of other professional scientific trade groups, all disavow those christian theories as bullshit.

It's nature, not nurture.
I knew you would never admit it.

Besides, i couldnt care less about those Christian groups you mention. Im agnostic myself.

But the good thing about our conscience, as Freud said, is that we can never lie to us 100%... deep inside, no matter how much we try to hide it, we know it.
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But the good thing about our conscience, as Freud said, is that we can never lie to us 100%... deep inside, no matter how much we try to hide it, we know it.
Is that a fancy way of saying you want me to fuck you in teh ass?
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Besides, im not passing a judgment.

And you, by your reply, are taking a defensive stand. That's so typical from a Christian education... the origin of an act defines the "good" or "bad" of it.

So, you are making the logic that if your sexual choice came from birth (ie nature) its good, no sin attached. But if it originated from a bad act (ie a physical abuse) then its a sin.

If you dont care about christianism, you need to brake that logic.
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Is that a fancy way of saying you want me to fuck you in teh ass?
Would that be a bad thing? Gay acts are inherently bad?

* NOTE: im following your logic *

Now you replied to the hetero man defying you, with an implication that he is gay too, or has hidden gay feelings. As you want to avoid the question and discredit me, you imply homosexuality. Thus you, in your subconscience, still relate your homosexuality as a sin.

Thus, it was originated from a sin, thus you were abused.
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well they say its hereditary ...
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well they say its hereditary ...
Lol if that was the case we would all be gay, and dead because we couldnt procreate without committing heterosexual acts.
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well they say its hereditary ...
you weren't the smartest one right?
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Lol if that was the case we would all be gay, and dead because we couldnt procreate without committing heterosexual acts.
You guys are nuts, lmao!

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Why is people always trying to hit on you alley? there most be a good reason for that. Maybe they feel envy for the way you are. nobody is 100% sure if you're gay or not and you don't even fucking care what they think! My message to them "Get out of the closet"
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Would that be a bad thing? Gay acts are inherently bad?

* NOTE: im following your logic *

Now you replied to the hetero man defying you, with an implication that he is gay too, or has hidden gay feelings. As you want to avoid the question and discredit me, you imply homosexuality. Thus you, in your subconscience, still relate your homosexuality as a sin.
No, I replied to you telling you what the American Medical Association and the American Psychiatric Association have to say about the issue, to discredit you.

I reply with jokes to ridicule you.

There's a difference breeder!

PS: From my personal experience, VAST majority of "straight men" that openly defy homosexuals have, themselves, problems with facing their own sexuality. Perhaps you'd be better served spending your efforts exploring that.

People like Ted Haggard are perfect examples.
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Haha you cant be using "nature" as a basis for an argument saying that homosexuality is "natural" can you? You are a freak of nature, you do realize that homosexuality goes against the basic principles of nature dont you? You cant procreate with another male silly.
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No, I replied to you telling you what the American Medical Association and the American Psychiatric Association have to say about the issue, to discredit you.

I reply with jokes to ridicule you.

There's a difference breeder!

PS: From my personal experience, VAST majority of "straight men" that openly defy homosexuals have, themselves, problems with facing their own sexuality. Perhaps you'd be better served spending your efforts exploring that.

People like Ted Haggard are perfect examples.
Ok, let gets this straight.

1. I never passed a judgment about homosexuality itself. By your defensive stand, you are asuming im taking homos as bad people or a bad thing.

2. I started the thread cause i believe the logic (homosexuality = child + abuse) and I was interested in hear your opinion (and i was sure you were going to reply like you did)

3. I believe christian fanatics are psychos. Religion NEVER goes along with science.

4. I never defyied you. I implied you understood that. But, your joke about me, like you said was to make me look like i have gay tendencies.

5. So... my logic still stands: You joke with me as im gay -> Thus you, in your subconscience, still relate your homosexuality as a sin -> Thus, it was originated from a sin -> thus you were abused.
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Nah, he makes a better homo than Chio does a pirate, so I believe he is gay.
lol and chio is quite the pirate
so that would make boyalley gay x10
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Haha you cant be using "nature" as a basis for an argument saying that homosexuality is "natural" can you? You are a freak of nature, you do realize that homosexuality goes against the basic principles of nature dont you? You cant procreate with another male silly.
The only purpose of sex is procreation?

And you have a business in which profession?

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The only purpose of sex is procreation? And you have a business in which profession?
The only "natural" purpose of sex according to "nature" is procreation yes. I dont personally care who is or who isnt homosexual or what anyone does lol its just funny to me when they use excuses like oh its "natural" and that they were "born gay". I have no real ill feeling towards homosexuals.
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What purpose in nature would homosexuality achieve I wonder ?
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BoyAlley, were you ABUSED as a child?

Almost a certain fact inside the scientific community is that homosexual
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This is particularly true among men, so im curious to hear what's your origin. Abuse dont necessarily means physical, as in a rape, but can also be an overwhelming mother cutting your relations with other persons of the same sex, etc.

I know you probably have it deep buried into your conscience... I dont blame you, traumatic moments end there. It's our brain self-preservation mechanism.

But Im confident we can get you to talk about it.


Don't GFY rules ban attacking people personally?
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What purpose in nature would homosexuality achieve I wonder ?
One "purpose" of homosexuality may be to keep the "homosexual gene" (if there is one) from being inherited.

Why do people have such a problem with gays? I have many friends who are gay and they are terrific people. They don't bother anyone.
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where do i attacked him? Please show.
And you should read everything before posting BS.
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It's really pathetic when the "wannabes" come on the board and decide to post something that they hope will hit people's hot buttons.

Steppenwolf..you say you are not attacking, yet in your first post in this thread you said: "Almost a certain fact inside the scientific community is that homosexual behavior start to build up after an abuse as a child."

That is such bullshit with no scientific backing..yet you throw it out as a fact and try to stir things up.

Don't act like you're not being negative about homsexuality, because you are.
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One "purpose" of homosexuality may be to keep the "homosexual gene" (if there is one) from being inherited.
Do you have any links to further information about this as I've never come accross this theory before ?

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Why do people have such a problem with gays? I have many friends who are gay and they are terrific people. They don't bother anyone.
Whoa dude - I wasn't looking to bash BA, it's just that I found his statement somwhat perplexing.
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so if boy alley fucked a woman....and they had a son....would he be gay?

its one of lifes most difficult questions.
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It's really pathetic when the "wannabes" come on the board and decide to post something that they hope will hit people's hot buttons.

Steppenwolf..you say you are not attacking, yet in your first post in this thread you said: "Almost a certain fact inside the scientific community is that homosexual behavior start to build up after an abuse as a child."

That is such bullshit with no scientific backing..yet you throw it out as a fact and try to stir things up.

Don't act like you're not being negative about homsexuality, because you are.
Im going to bother to reply you first... i dont know what you mean by wannabes. I already am... oh, I see your point now, im sorry, i have less than 1000 posts, i must be broke then.

And regarding scientific evidence, let me start by building the nurture case with this:

Studies performed over the last several decades have found that gay men tend to have a greater number of older male siblings than do straight men. In a recent analysis of data from 14 studies involving 10,000 individuals, a group led by Ray Blanchard, a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, determined that a large number of older brothers is a significant predictor of male homosexuality [24][25].

24 - Blanchard, R. 2004. Quantitative and theoretical analyses of the relation between older brothers and homosexuality in men. Journal of Theoretical Biology. 230: 173-87.

25 - Blanchard, R. and L. Ellis. 2001. Birth weight, sexual orientation, and the sex of preceding siblings. Journal of Biosocial Science. 33: 451-67.

From the Council for Responsible Genetics

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most fags have been. abuse at a young age tends to mutate the genetics.
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can i get an amen?! or in your case boyalley, i'll get you two-mens!
amen- gay men, who cares. I agree with you both. People should leave it be. 2 Mens for boyalley. how THUUUPER is that?
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Studies performed over the last several decades have found that gay men tend to have a greater number of older male siblings than do straight men. In a recent analysis of data from 14 studies involving 10,000 individuals, a group led by Ray Blanchard, a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, determined that a large number of older brothers is a significant predictor of male homosexuality [24][25].
"Nurture" is not what the Scientist involved in those studies concluded. What they actually concluded is that nurture cannot be the cause of this as it only works when the older brothers are of the same mother. With older step brothers, we dont see these results.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...26/ixnews.html
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Almost a certain fact inside the scientific community is that homosexual
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This is particularly true among men, so im curious to hear what's your origin. Abuse dont necessarily means physical, as in a rape, but can also be an overwhelming mother cutting your relations with other persons of the same sex, etc.

I know you probably have it deep buried into your conscience... I dont blame you, traumatic moments end there. It's our brain self-preservation mechanism.

But Im confident we can get you to talk about it.

You are a fucking idiot
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well they say its hereditary ...
ROFL !! Where did you read it ??
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CHIO IS a Pirate. I have personally climbed his mast, and raised his sails! AHOY MATTE!
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"Nurture" is not what the Scientist involved in those studies concluded. What they actually concluded is that nurture cannot be the cause of this as it only works when the older brothers are of the same mother. With older step brothers, we dont see these results.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...26/ixnews.html
Seeing as how most men in England are gay, can that really be considered a credible source?
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CHIO IS a Pirate. I have personally climbed his mast, and raised his sails! AHOY MATTE!
Then BA must be gay.
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Old 04-06-2007, 12:35 PM   #45
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Seeing as how most men in England are gay, can that really be considered a credible source?
LOL, yes we are quite a happy bunch in the UK

Mainly because we so glad not to be American
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Old 04-06-2007, 12:37 PM   #46
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LOL, yes we are quite a happy bunch in the UK

Mainly because we so glad not to be American
Am glad you finally got over that whole Tea Tax thing.
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Old 04-06-2007, 12:40 PM   #47
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Old 04-06-2007, 12:47 PM   #48
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Am glad you finally got over that whole Tea Tax thing.

LOL, yeup - mess about with an Englishman's tea or our right to drink warm beer and we get real ugly
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Old 04-06-2007, 03:04 PM   #50
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Studies performed over the last several decades have found that gay men tend to have a greater number of older male siblings than do straight men. In a recent analysis of data from 14 studies involving 10,000 individuals, a group led by Ray Blanchard, a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, determined that a large number of older brothers is a significant predictor of male homosexuality [24][25].

Where is this study does it mention abuse?
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