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theruyan 04-07-2007 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kitti2x (Post 12208002)
Just like to share this quote: "It's always better to believe that there is a God and die finding there is none than not to believe in any God and die finding he existed."

Pascals Wager. And it's already been debunked as a logical fallacy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager

LadyMischief 04-07-2007 05:33 AM

Actually the Romans of that era used to execute criminals on a STAKE, NOT a cross. The cross part of the story evolved later. Wouldn't THAT throw a monkeywrench into religion Iconography. The symbol of the cross was yet another religious artifact that was around and in use thousands of years before the birth of christ. It was used in ancient Egypt, the symbol for venus is a circle and a cross, Saturn was a cross and a ram's horn. They took the symbolism of dying on the cross from the backgroudn of many other religions and as they have done with many of the ceremonies/symbols surrounding christianity, they've hacked them from pagan beliefs and jammed them into their own needs. (In fact most often the cross was used in ancient religions as a PHALLIC symbol, funny that, no?)

LadyMischief 04-07-2007 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kitti2x (Post 12206259)
I wonder which is much harder to believe, that Jesus really existed and devoted his life for the benefit of the others or that your not adopted by your parents?
Can you remember the time during your birth? Why did you believed everyone says your not adopted.

The answer is simple, follow your heart and not your playful mind.

Respect everyones religion is very important.
That's how we can keep peace in this sinful world.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup


Jesus was a true historical figure who made an impact on many religions (even the Muslum religion sees Jesus as a prophet). However, like playing telephone, over the years the story changed and changed and became more and more glorified until suddenly he wasn't just a man, he was all these other things too. None of the scriptures in the bible were written exactly contemporary with Jesus's life... in fact the vast majority were written after Jesus was already dead and many years had passed. I'm sure there's NO embellishment there (like there is in every single set of religious texts since time immemmorial... religion IS ABOUT embellishment). There is lots of historical evidence that says that Jesus was a real man, and I'm sure no man since has left such an impact on millenia of people who followed him. He was still a man though after all. :)

he-fox 04-07-2007 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 12209391)
Stupid idiots that believe in any religion deserve to shoot each other up and die like they have for thousands of years :1orglaugh

You're quite an authorithy in the biz, but posts like this one puts you in the imbecil range. Perhaps you feel better there. Enjoy the journey.

Bloomer 04-07-2007 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12205369)
First of all I'm an athiest. I don't believe in any gods. Jesus was real person there is enough historical evidence of that. Was he the son of god, did he perform miracles, did he rise from the dead? No. I'm just explaining the story that even the most devout Christian gets wrong.

well lets suppose that now that they have some DNA from those bones they found that they clone him into the physical realm and turn him into a real man back from the dead!

LadyMischief 04-07-2007 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12213542)
well lets suppose that now that they have some DNA from those bones they found that they clone him into the physical realm and turn him into a real man back from the dead!

Cloning his DNA would not make him Jesus, it would make him an exact physical replica of the man without the world experience and knowledge. Most people just assume they'd come back with the knowledge, but last time I checked intelligence was in the brain, not the bones lol.

Linkster 04-07-2007 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by he-fox (Post 12213399)
You're quite an authorithy in the biz, but posts like this one puts you in the imbecil range. Perhaps you feel better there. Enjoy the journey.

Obviously you missed the humor/satire based on the fact that hundreds of millions have been killed in the name of religion over the last 20 centurys or so - and by doing so have proven themselves to be idiots - so any thinking person would encourage this practice since it is obviously "accepted practice" within religion and makes less idiots in the long run which seems to be a win-win solution


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