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Va2k · 08-14-2002, 08:08 AM

Hey guys and gals Im wanting to get a special going on since the show is over! If anyone wants Tgp Galleries built I will build them $5.00 a gallery! [email protected] is my e-mail addy.

Gemini · 08-14-2002, 11:56 AM

Ting!.... Bump

gothweb · 08-14-2002, 11:59 AM

His stuff isn't bad. Can't beat $5 a gallery.

Sly_RJ · 08-14-2002, 12:02 PM

Mailing list.

Fletch XXX · 08-14-2002, 12:03 PM

Hmmm I think I need to announce a special soon too...

hehehe

TDF · 08-14-2002, 12:08 PM

what does a 5 dollar gallery look like???

Gemini · 08-14-2002, 12:27 PM

Pretty nice TDF... I think the url is http://www.pimpingporn.com for examples.

Dirty F · 08-14-2002, 12:42 PM

Hey Tom, hit me up, id like to order 10 galleries

dikkechill · 08-14-2002, 01:35 PM

Looks good, nice deal : )

cya
Dikkechill

the Shemp · 08-14-2002, 01:54 PM

Toms gallery work is very good.

shemp

Va2k · 08-14-2002, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Hey Tom, hit me up, id like to order 10 galleries

I cant find your icq nor ya email [email protected] is my email addy And thanks guys and gals for your support

Va2k · 08-15-2002, 11:26 AM

Just to let ya all know this is some of the galleries im doing for $5.00 http://www.spitcum.com/movies/ also im extending this till monday aug 18th and For every 10 galleries you buy I will through in 2 free ones. Peace
TOM

Fletch XXX · 08-15-2002, 11:37 AM

Tom honestly, not trying to bust your balls but, on the first example I clicked it was a background someone else created, and a logo someone else created.

If I designed that paysite and saw someone selling galleries for 5 bucks of my work I would be pissed.

Yeah the gallery looks great, but you are selling someone elses background and logos man.

Va2k · 08-15-2002, 11:42 AM

eh? Fletch I would never do that I did all graphic work myself accecpt for the click here and it leads to the sponsors full page ad which I do not sell or even mess with man.... wtf I would never freaking steal someone elses designs and sell them

Va2k · 08-15-2002, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Tom honestly, not trying to bust your balls but, on the first example I clicked it was a background someone else created, and a logo someone else created.

If I designed that paysite and saw someone selling galleries for 5 bucks of my work I would be pissed.

Yeah the gallery looks great, but you are selling someone elses background and logos man.

Also how am I selling somoene elses background when the background is done in html #000000 which is BLACK and as for that logo that logo is the sponsor that IM PROMOTING. Nothing wrong with doing this.... God I not mad at you bro just a little dissapointed that you of all people would suggest I would do something as low as stealing.

Oh one last thing mate that border around my thumbs is mine its very standard tables man. Sorry but this just gives me the chills to know that somone thinks im ripping another webmaster/sponsor off..

Fletch XXX · 08-15-2002, 11:52 AM

http://www.seeasians.com/?revid=XXXX&s=3

http://www.pimpingporn.com/galleries/1/

DrewKole · 08-15-2002, 11:55 AM

Fletch... =) Everyone does that, including me, its just tying in the gallery directly with the site...

Converts much better when there is a direct relationship, and the people can imagine they're from the same site.

Wouldnt call it stealing, he's promoting see asians with the gallery. =)

Fletch XXX · 08-15-2002, 11:55 AM

For the record, I didn't say you stole anything.

I simply said if judging by this example, you are selling someone elses backgrounds etc...

ControlThy · 08-15-2002, 11:56 AM

Looks like he copied the background and logo.
But that is allowed since he is promoting that particular program.

Fletch XXX · 08-15-2002, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrewKole
Fletch... =) Everyone does that, including me, its just tying in the gallery directly with the site...

Converts much better when there is a direct relationship, and the people can imagine they're from the same site.

Wouldnt call it stealing, he's promoting see asians with the gallery. =)

I know this, but promoting galleries for yourself and building galleries for money are 2 diferent things.

I knew I shouldnt have said anything, but fuck it.

I dont hold back.

I would never sell someone elses backgrounds dude, thats my ONLY point here.

gothweb · 08-15-2002, 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
http://www.seeasians.com/?revid=XXXX&s=3

http://www.pimpingporn.com/galleries/1/

*That* don't look good.

hyper · 08-15-2002, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
http://www.seeasians.com/?revid=XXXX&s=3

http://www.pimpingporn.com/galleries/1/

hmm i get a js exploit warning from my antivirus at seeasians

Va2k · 08-15-2002, 12:01 PM

Hey Im glad you did say something mate but if you go to the site im promoting http://www.adultmoviestation.com/frs...%3D&a=18 3974 I dont have that background? only thing I did was use adultmovies logo at the very top of my gallery. I will icq justin to make 100% sure again PEACE

DrewKole · 08-15-2002, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

I know this, but promoting galleries for yourself and building galleries for money are 2 diferent things.

I knew I shouldnt have said anything, but fuck it.

I dont hold back.

I would never sell someone elses backgrounds dude, thats my ONLY point here.

I can see your point. =)

Va2k · 08-15-2002, 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb

*That* don't look good.

eh? What don't look good about it? Its the sponsors site im promoting I do use some of the sponsors backgrounds and logos what is wrong with that? I can see if I was using one sponsors images and another sponsors background but when it is the same sponsor what is wrong with that? Before I every started this I got the ok from all the sponsors I use.

HS-Trixxxia · 08-15-2002, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper

hmm i get a js exploit warning from my antivirus at seeasians

Yup.....me too....

cherrylula · 08-15-2002, 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by va2k

eh? What don't look good about it? Its the sponsors site im promoting I do use some of the sponsors backgrounds and logos what is wrong with that? I can see if I was using one sponsors images and another sponsors background but when it is the same sponsor what is wrong with that? Before I every started this I got the ok from all the sponsors I use.

I think its okay to do if its *your* gallery, on your site.... but if you are charging someone for a gallery and pulling the logo from somewhere, you are making money from someone elses work (the designer who made the pretty logo) which has nothing to do with the sponsor, you, the customer, etc. Get it?

eh but its sort of a gray area. I hope that makes sense.

gothweb · 08-15-2002, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by va2k

eh? What don't look good about it? Its the sponsors site im promoting I do use some of the sponsors backgrounds and logos what is wrong with that? I can see if I was using one sponsors images and another sponsors background but when it is the same sponsor what is wrong with that? Before I every started this I got the ok from all the sponsors I use.

In my book, you don't use someone else's design-- even the logo-- without their permission. If they have a program set up for you to use thieir logos, and thus gave permission, it is cool with me. Like the galleries you are doing for me-- I *sent* you the images and logos, and I *want* you to match the feel of our site. If they didn't ask for it, directly, or through their promotion program, then it's iffy.

Va2k · 08-15-2002, 12:17 PM

Ok I have fired off 6 emails 2 icq's to ALL THE SPONSORS I use and AGAIN I will get their permission and post here to prove my point. I HAVE permission Im not doing anything wrong.

cherrylula · 08-15-2002, 12:19 PM

I don't think the sponsors mind, or that its breaking any rules. Besides for $5 a gallery I doubt anyone would complain now that I think about it hehe. I guess us designers are just a little touchy about that sort of thing.

Sly_RJ · 08-15-2002, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by cherrylula

I think its okay to do if its *your* gallery, on your site.... but if you are charging someone for a gallery and pulling the logo from somewhere, you are making money from someone elses work (the designer who made the pretty logo) which has nothing to do with the sponsor, you, the customer, etc. Get it?

eh but its sort of a gray area. I hope that makes sense.

The designs for Top Bucks aren't the work or property of the designer I am willing to bet. They're the property of Top Bucks, the designer should care less.

Va2k · 08-15-2002, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
I don't think the sponsors mind, or that its breaking any rules. Besides for $5 a gallery I doubt anyone would complain now that I think about it hehe. I guess us designers are just a little touchy about that sort of thing.

well I would too thats not the problem ma'am I got the permission from topbucks from ars and a few others I use but don't have the emails cause I lost them when my hard drive crashed. So now I resent them emails and icq's so I can post it here and prove im not doing anything wrong. NOW if one writes back and says NO Then I will start a new thread asking all my clietns that I have done this with to get a hold of me and I will redo their galleries I allready charged them for for free.

I just want to put peoples mind at ease, and mine. I would never do anything to put anyone in harms way. Like when I buy content from planetconent.com I have HIM DEAN The owner send the client all the legals in's and outs...

Here is one sponsor I just got the ok AGAIN from
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Va2k (3:10 PM) :
when im building tgp galleries for other people like you and I sell my galleries for $5.00 would you mind me using say your logo and background on the gallery page?
Va2k (3:10 PM) :
your the last sponsor I use so need to ask you as well
localg (3:11 PM) :
you would be promoting my site on the tgp
Va2k (3:13 PM) :
yea only your site
localg (3:13 PM) :
then its not a problem
localg (3:13 PM) :
i have around 2000 pics you can use as well
Va2k (3:13 PM) :
I need to get permission again from all my sponosors I use cause i lost the emails when my hard drive died and people are having a real bad problem on gfy and slamming me hard as hell
Va2k (3:14 PM) :
Can I use this icq chat with me and you as proof that you are one of my sponsors and you have given the ok again
localg (3:17 PM) :
sure
______________

I will post when the others have gotten back to me.

playa · 08-15-2002, 12:33 PM

i agree with fletch but i guess if your making a gallery for that paticular sponser then it shouldn't be a problem,,
sometimes i cut a FPA and place thumbs,, it just makes the surfers transition from gallery to tours alot smoother,,

Fletch XXX · 08-15-2002, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by va2k
are having a real bad problem on gfy and slamming me hard as hell

I was just sharing my opinion of someone using someone else's graphics in selling galleries, is that slamming you hard as hell?

Va2k · 08-15-2002, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

I was just sharing my opinion of someone using someone else's graphics in selling galleries, is that slamming you hard as hell?

No maybe i just jumped the gun a little mate Sorry about that but it freaked me out. sorry

bawdy · 08-15-2002, 01:15 PM

If making the gallery look like the sponsors site increases sales why would I care.

I'd think you had done your research. All contracted you to do was to build a gallery.

For $5/$10 how much original design work can you reasonable expect?

harvey · 08-15-2002, 01:31 PM

I think some point is missed: the guy makes $5 galleries (I hate you!

), he uses the sponsors' look and gives to the client a finished product that look cool enough and (hopefully) will convert. As a designer with a degree in marketing, I think he's doing everything all right, if the sponsors have no problem (and I'm almost sure they don't), then it's perfect. And for 5 bucks! Man, I'm hating you more and more

Va2k · 08-15-2002, 01:39 PM

Thanks Harv

Gemini · 08-15-2002, 02:56 PM

Tom you're in the right so don't sweat it. We've done the same thing that you are doing and have never had a sponsor say no since 1995. If one would, we'd drop them like a hot potato.

Btw, the old man just had me email you for 20 more galleries. Hopefully by next Wednesday?

Will do paypal for 50% down after dinner. Food first.

Va2k · 08-15-2002, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornopete

It does not seem like he is selling the graphics, he is selling the HTML or more the layout/composition of the artwork and content.

He is perfectly within his means.

Thank you guys

Thanks Gem tell your other half THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!

Gemini · 08-15-2002, 05:58 PM

DaNada Tom. When you have htis many domains, you need all the help ya can get sometimes to keep up.

08-14-2002, 08:08 AM	#1
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	2 day special Hey guys and gals Im wanting to get a special going on since the show is over! If anyone wants Tgp Galleries built I will build them $5.00 a gallery! [email protected] is my e-mail addy. __________________

08-14-2002, 11:59 AM	#3
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Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Hmmm I think I need to announce a special soon too... hehehe __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	what does a 5 dollar gallery look like??? __________________ Sig heil

08-14-2002, 11:56 AM	#2
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Ting!.... Bump

08-14-2002, 12:27 PM	#7
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Pretty nice TDF... I think the url is http://www.pimpingporn.com for examples.

08-14-2002, 12:42 PM	#8
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Hey Tom, hit me up, id like to order 10 galleries

08-14-2002, 01:35 PM	#9
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08-14-2002, 01:54 PM	#10
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08-15-2002, 11:26 AM	#12
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	Just to let ya all know this is some of the galleries im doing for $5.00 http://www.spitcum.com/movies/ also im extending this till monday aug 18th and For every 10 galleries you buy I will through in 2 free ones. Peace TOM __________________

08-15-2002, 11:37 AM	#13
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Tom honestly, not trying to bust your balls but, on the first example I clicked it was a background someone else created, and a logo someone else created. If I designed that paysite and saw someone selling galleries for 5 bucks of my work I would be pissed. Yeah the gallery looks great, but you are selling someone elses background and logos man. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

08-15-2002, 11:42 AM	#14
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	eh? Fletch I would never do that I did all graphic work myself accecpt for the click here and it leads to the sponsors full page ad which I do not sell or even mess with man.... wtf I would never freaking steal someone elses designs and sell them __________________

08-15-2002, 11:52 AM	#16
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	http://www.seeasians.com/?revid=XXXX&s=3 http://www.pimpingporn.com/galleries/1/ __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

08-15-2002, 11:55 AM	#17
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	Fletch... =) Everyone does that, including me, its just tying in the gallery directly with the site... Converts much better when there is a direct relationship, and the people can imagine they're from the same site. Wouldnt call it stealing, he's promoting see asians with the gallery. =)

08-15-2002, 11:56 AM	#19
ControlThy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,909	Looks like he copied the background and logo. But that is allowed since he is promoting that particular program.

08-15-2002, 12:01 PM	#23
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	Hey Im glad you did say something mate but if you go to the site im promoting http://www.adultmoviestation.com/frs...%3D&a=18 3974 I dont have that background? only thing I did was use adultmovies logo at the very top of my gallery. I will icq justin to make 100% sure again PEACE __________________

08-15-2002, 12:17 PM	#29
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	Ok I have fired off 6 emails 2 icq's to ALL THE SPONSORS I use and AGAIN I will get their permission and post here to prove my point. I HAVE permission Im not doing anything wrong. __________________

08-15-2002, 12:19 PM	#30
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	I don't think the sponsors mind, or that its breaking any rules. Besides for $5 a gallery I doubt anyone would complain now that I think about it hehe. I guess us designers are just a little touchy about that sort of thing.

08-15-2002, 12:33 PM	#33
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	i agree with fletch but i guess if your making a gallery for that paticular sponser then it shouldn't be a problem,, sometimes i cut a FPA and place thumbs,, it just makes the surfers transition from gallery to tours alot smoother,,

08-15-2002, 01:15 PM	#36
bawdy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,424	If making the gallery look like the sponsors site increases sales why would I care. I'd think you had done your research. All contracted you to do was to build a gallery. For $5/$10 how much original design work can you reasonable expect?

08-15-2002, 01:31 PM	#37
harvey Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 9,266	I think some point is missed: the guy makes $5 galleries (I hate you! ), he uses the sponsors' look and gives to the client a finished product that look cool enough and (hopefully) will convert. As a designer with a degree in marketing, I think he's doing everything all right, if the sponsors have no problem (and I'm almost sure they don't), then it's perfect. And for 5 bucks! Man, I'm hating you more and more __________________ This post is endorsed by CIA, KGB, MI6, the Mafia, Illuminati, Kim Jong Il, Worldwide Ninjas Association, Klingon Empire and lolcats. Don't mess around with it, just accept it and embrace the truth

08-15-2002, 01:39 PM	#38
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	Thanks Harv __________________

08-15-2002, 02:56 PM	#39
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Tom you're in the right so don't sweat it. We've done the same thing that you are doing and have never had a sponsor say no since 1995. If one would, we'd drop them like a hot potato. Btw, the old man just had me email you for 20 more galleries. Hopefully by next Wednesday? Will do paypal for 50% down after dinner. Food first.

08-15-2002, 05:58 PM	#41
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	DaNada Tom. When you have htis many domains, you need all the help ya can get sometimes to keep up.