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GatorB 04-04-2007 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12193889)
Yes and do you have all that stuff of yours sorted out with that black and white yet?

Why dont you hold your dual monitors close and pray!

Now I really don't care for Sticky and he knows it, but you just made yourself look even more retarded. If that's possible.

Bloomer 04-04-2007 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12193906)
Now I really don't care for Sticky and he knows it, but you just made yourself look even more retarded. If that's possible.

I dont take shit from people I give them a fair chance to get along with me then after that I wont play nice no more

GatorB 04-04-2007 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12193903)
let me ask you a question?
Do you know who I am?

Yes. A fucking retard.

directfiesta 04-04-2007 09:45 AM

Just another note:

All foreign ( non-us residing ) models, shot in the USA, are not compliant....

They need to have ID's issued by a USA authority....

OK, correction : Mexicans are compliant :winkwink:

Bloomer 04-04-2007 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12193936)
Yes. A fucking retard.

Yes I am a fucking retard I am wrong like you said in the first place and all your good friend know it so Im so sorry little one you wont be going to the party next year!

directfiesta 04-04-2007 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12193936)
Yes. A fucking retard.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I must admit that this is a grand slam ....

On the other hand, both stop arguing for the sake of it .... Thread will be more informative.

Linkster 04-04-2007 09:49 AM

One important point thats being missed in all of this discussion is that what has been passed is the Adam Walsh Act which implemented huge changes to the 2257 law - it includes simulated sex now not just "actual sex" - you can see the law changes at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...aNdQA:e115994: which gives the sect 500 changes to 2257 and is implemented by HR 4472 which was signed into law some time ago - if you dont know whats in that law you might take a good look as it totally changes the definitions of producers (definitely gets rid of the distinction between primary and secondary producers - they are all the same now) and many more
This went into effect 90 days after Bush signed it in July 2006 - and is what the Judge in the 2257 case is talking about when he says Congress basically redefined the 2257 law and overruled Sundance

Bloomer 04-04-2007 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 12193948)
Just another note:

All foreign ( non-us residing ) models, shot in the USA, are not compliant....

They need to have ID's issued by a USA authority....

OK, correction : Mexicans are compliant :winkwink:

GET A GRIP ON THIS KID
when shooting outside of the United States, any government's picture identification including the person's legal name, photo and date of birth is acceptable, even if the producer's office is in the United States; shooting within the United States or its territories requires that same type of identification, but only issued by the United States or a state government.

GatorB 04-04-2007 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 12193959)
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I must admit that this is a grand slam ....

On the other hand, both stop arguing for the sake of it .... Thread will be more informative.


Ok, for you I stop. :kisskiss

CDSmith 04-04-2007 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent (Post 12193142)
2257 is a "recordkeeping statue".. its intent is to ensure that minors are not used in adult content production, but its also a law for proper documentation of the ages of the performers.

Statute.

It is a recordkeeping statute. Not statue.


The rest of your post was dead nuts on point. :thumbsup

GatorB 04-04-2007 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 12193977)
One important point thats being missed in all of this discussion is that what has been passed is the Adam Walsh Act which implemented huge changes to the 2257 law - it includes simulated sex now not just "actual sex" -

The Hollywood is going to have a cow. How many movies have "teens" that engage in simulated sex? Is this now considered CP?

Bloomer 04-04-2007 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 12193977)
One important point thats being missed in all of this discussion is that what has been passed is the Adam Walsh Act which implemented huge changes to the 2257 law - it includes simulated sex now not just "actual sex" - you can see the law changes at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...aNdQA:e115994: which gives the sect 500 changes to 2257 and is implemented by HR 4472 which was signed into law some time ago - if you dont know whats in that law you might take a good look as it totally changes the definitions of producers (definitely gets rid of the distinction between primary and secondary producers - they are all the same now) and many more
This went into effect 90 days after Bush signed it in July 2006 - and is what the Judge in the 2257 case is talking about when he says Congress basically redefined the 2257 law and overruled Sundance

SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE THIS OTHER GUY A FUCKING CIGAR AND THANK YOU!
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GatorB 04-04-2007 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12194006)
SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE THIS OTHER GUY A FUCKING CIGAR AND THANK YOU!
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Do you have the 2257 docs on that pic?

directfiesta 04-04-2007 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12193981)
GET A GRIP ON THIS KID
when shooting outside of the United States, any government's picture identification including the person's legal name, photo and date of birth is acceptable, even if the producer's office is in the United States; shooting within the United States or its territories requires that same type of identification, but only issued by the United States or a state government.

read my post ... I wrote:


Shot in the USA ....

for comprehension purpose, I even highlighted that part in your post.

Sands 04-04-2007 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 12193977)
One important point thats being missed in all of this discussion is that what has been passed is the Adam Walsh Act which implemented huge changes to the 2257 law - it includes simulated sex now not just "actual sex" - you can see the law changes at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...aNdQA:e115994: which gives the sect 500 changes to 2257 and is implemented by HR 4472 which was signed into law some time ago - if you dont know whats in that law you might take a good look as it totally changes the definitions of producers (definitely gets rid of the distinction between primary and secondary producers - they are all the same now) and many more
This went into effect 90 days after Bush signed it in July 2006 - and is what the Judge in the 2257 case is talking about when he says Congress basically redefined the 2257 law and overruled Sundance

Thank you kindly, Linkster. It appears I have some reading to do today. :(

Bloomer 04-04-2007 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12194028)
Do you have the 2257 docs on that pic?

not sexually explicit but I bet this will change alot of pics on this and other public boards though!

They may have to ban that feature all together which is going to make weaken this industry as far as trading and doing business all the more.

P.S. I am sorry for all the shit I said to you and all the others out here I posted this thread in hopes that for one people could become aware about the present threat and then I did realize what an actual threat this could do to someone reading it so I get a little comical/and stupidly argue over stupid shit and yes I am an all American muthr fkr that has balls of steel and I will argue till the cows come home so give up or take it to the pasture for all I care!

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JD 04-04-2007 10:10 AM

zomg we're all gunna dieeeeeeeeeeeeee

Bloomer 04-04-2007 10:26 AM

It seems to me that people in this industry are out for themselves.
The ever growing problems with adaware and all the non responsive sponsors that supposedly do not have a hand in the crooked money pot!

I think if they do pass this bill into a law then we are all going to see where the sponsors really sit on this!

My bet is that thet dont even know what is going on cause they are still hung over from the big shindig out in Zona!

Get ready sponsors cause 2257 is going to take some of your precious cashflow!:(

If you dont wake up and represent!

FightThisPatent 04-04-2007 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR (Post 12193725)
:thumbsup :thumbsup Exactly. but what about AFFILIATES... paysite owners sound have been compliant since day 1 but affiliates are the ones that are going to get the short end of the stick here...


excellent point.. especially the practice of affiliates who receive images from sponsors to use on their own sites.

it seems like FHG are safer for affiliates since the images are hosted with the sponsor who has (supposedly) all the docs.

Even taking screenshots of a paysite to put on an affiliate site creates some 2257 issues....

I think alot of sponsors have a good handle on 2257, in having an attorney who understands 2257, as well as receiving the 2257 docs from their content suppliers or from shooting for themselves.

I think 2257 is another issue that will illuminate the squeezing of the affiliates to a smaller group (ie whales), that have the relationships to sponsors that could get the docs and continue their affiliate marketing promotions.



Fight the downsizing!

TampaToker 04-04-2007 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 12193977)

What did you search for Linkster?



Please resubmit your search
Search results are only retained for a limited amount of time.Your search results have either been deleted, or the file has been updated with new information.

Bloomer 04-04-2007 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent (Post 12194154)
excellent point.. especially the practice of affiliates who receive images from sponsors to use on their own sites.

it seems like FHG are safer for affiliates since the images are hosted with the sponsor who has (supposedly) all the docs.

Even taking screenshots of a paysite to put on an affiliate site creates some 2257 issues....

I think alot of sponsors have a good handle on 2257, in having an attorney who understands 2257, as well as receiving the 2257 docs from their content suppliers or from shooting for themselves.

I think 2257 is another issue that will illuminate the squeezing of the affiliates to a smaller group (ie whales), that have the relationships to sponsors that could get the docs and continue their affiliate marketing promotions.



Fight the downsizing!

Simply all they really have to do is provide a date of birth documentation of each model that they offer to any Webmaster for any FHG.

The rest of any models info can be held with the origional producer!

Bloomer 04-04-2007 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12194185)
Simply all they really have to do is provide a date of birth documentation of each model that they offer to any Webmaster for any FHG.

The rest of any models info can be held with the origional producer!

primary producers may obliterate from identification documents the performers' addresses, social security numbers and all but the year from their dates of birth. It would seem reasonable to assume that secondary producers, who already have in their possession non-redacted identification documents, may also redact that information.

Bloomer 04-04-2007 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 12193833)
It does not mean that you are getting fucked, It means that you will have to work a little harder

You a 100% right but it will do no good if your sponsors dont get that finger out of there asses and provide you with information!

Whats more I cant wait to see the many differences that they do this can you Imagine some Russian sponsor trying to figure this shit out?

My guess is even if the U.S. bordered sponsors pull this off for all there affiliates it will take at least ^ months before any foreign sponsor figures this shit out on there own to make a change!:(

baycouples 04-04-2007 10:50 AM

What about adult dating services like AFF, etc.? How would they have to handle that?

Bloomer 04-04-2007 10:52 AM

By the way why dont some of you LOOKERS TO THIS THREAD pull out that stick from your virtual ass and make a fucking stand for the industry that you are supposedly involved in?

Over 1400 looks in under 7 hours!
Hardley 200 responses DONT LET MY INSANITY SCARE YOU!

Incredible how truley fuckin lame this industry is!

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Bloomer 04-04-2007 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by baycouples (Post 12194264)
What about adult dating services like AFF, etc.? How would they have to handle that?

Well when you sign up on an adult site you provide proof of age ,it is alot different!

They now have supposed proof of age and verification through your E-mail and IP address But this is going to put a complete stop to all those FAKE profiles on them I can tell you that!

The way I look at it is that This is a GREAT THING that will happen if it does and I personally hope it does cause it WILL call out all the fucking scum we all have been dealing with for the last three years to say the laest it is going to TIGHTEN up the REINS so to speak going to call a spade a spade and bring to light a whole bunch of shit!:thumbsup

baycouples 04-04-2007 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12194306)
Well when you sign up on an adult site you provide proof of age ,it is alot different!

They now have supposed proof of age and verification through your E-mail and IP address But this is going to put a complete stop to all those FAKE profiles on them I can tell you that!

The way I look at it is that This is a GREAT THING that will happen if it does and I personally hope it does cause it WILL call out all the fucking scum we all have been dealing with for the last three years to say the laest it is going to TIGHTEN up the REINS so to speak going to call a spade a spade and bring to light a whole bunch of shit!:thumbsup

I don't get it still. What about legitimate members uploading their X-rated pictures. Wouldn't those NOT be allowed anymore since the dating sites have no ID proof for those?

Bloomer 04-04-2007 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by baycouples (Post 12194328)
I don't get it still. What about legitimate members uploading their X-rated pictures. Wouldn't those NOT be allowed anymore since the dating sites have no ID proof for those?

They may tighten up on the memberships like I just said sure But thats a GOOD THING!
That means that when you sign up to a date site your not just signing up to a site that has a bunch of FAKE profiles that some SHITBAG put up in hopes of making a few bucks off a horney new member!

There will actually have to be REAL FUCKIN PEOPLE ON THAT SHIT!:banana

NO NOT IF YOU PROVIDE LEGITIMATE PROOF OF AGE AND SUCH!

baycouples 04-04-2007 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12194348)
They may tighten up on the memberships like I just said sure But thats a GOOD THING!
That means that when you sign up to a date site your not just signing up to a site that has a bunch of FAKE profiles that some SHITBAG put up in hopes of making a few bucks off a honey new member!

There will actually have to be REAL FUCKIN PEOPLE ON THAT SHIT!:banana

One has nothing to do with another. I have all real people on the site and never post fake profiles but it seems that I will have to stop accepting X-rated pictures since I can't collect IDs for all of them. And those who post fake profiles will just post PG13 pictures of fake profiles. So, that won't change probably.

Bloomer 04-04-2007 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by baycouples (Post 12194364)
One has nothing to do with another. I have all real people on the site and never post fake profiles but it seems that I will have to stop accepting X-rated pictures since I can't collect IDs for all of them. And those who post fake profiles will just post PG13 pictures of fake profiles. So, that won't change probably.

Why would you have to do that?
Just simply ask for the proper stuff and get your shit together then!

Or fall to the wayside and let someone else TRIUMPH

esnem 04-04-2007 11:16 AM

This guy Bloomer is seriously one of the dumber motherfuckers I've seen on this board in quite some time :2 cents:

directfiesta 04-04-2007 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by esnem (Post 12194400)
This guy Bloomer is seriously one of the dumber motherfuckers I've seen on this board in quite some time :2 cents:

I second that motion ....

Jack_Daniels 04-04-2007 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12193716)
From a 2005 article

"Bush administration stepping up obscenity prosecutions

Since 2001, 40 people and businesses have been convicted and 20 additional indictments are pending, said Andrew Oosterbaan, chief of the Justice Department's child exploitation and obscenity section. By comparison, there were four such prosecutions during the eight years of the Clinton administration, he said. "

Precisely.

Let's hope the American electorate sees fit to send the bible thumpers packing :thumbsup

Bloomer 04-04-2007 11:21 AM

WE GOT PAST ALL THIS ALREADY TROLLS LETS GET FUCKIN REAL

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baycouples 04-04-2007 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12194377)
Why would you have to do that?
Just simply ask for the proper stuff and get your shit together then!

Or fall to the wayside and let someone else TRIUMPH

You mean ask every single member who uploads an X-rated picture for a Driver license???????????

Bloomer 04-04-2007 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 12194410)
I second that motion ....

By the way MR FIESTA I was watching G.I Joe before you where a seed in you fathers NUTSACK!

Actually I think I wiped up part of you off your mothers right thigh with my tounge back in 1981 when I met her in a bar at 3 in the morning after your drunk ass dad couldnt get his dick up and she begged me to cum inside her skanky twat!

Bloomer 04-04-2007 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by baycouples (Post 12194462)
You mean ask every single member who uploads an X-rated picture for a Driver license???????????

Yes If your in Business then GET IN BUSINESS!

IllTestYourGirls 04-04-2007 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12192954)
I'm right on all of it. You're right on the parts you agree with me on.

Fact is if you run a TEXT ONLY TGP and have ZERO visual content on your site then you do not have to have any 2257 docs. What is so fucking hard for you to understand about this.

Go to GOOGLE and type in PORN. Now yo get over a million TEXT LINKS to porn site. Now you are sersiouly telling me that Google needs to get the 2257 docs on all the content on all the pages they have links to? THINK!!!!

I go to google images and type in blowjobs, and get lots of pictures of blowjobs

Bloomer 04-04-2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12194474)
By the way MR FIESTA I was watching G.I Joe before you where a seed in you fathers NUTSACK!

Actually I think I wiped up part of you off your mothers right thigh with my tounge back in 1981 when I met her in a bar at 3 in the morning after your drunk ass dad couldnt get his dick up and she begged me to cum inside her skanky twat!

Oh sorry you were born in 1980 it must have been your brother that was abortioned!

baycouples 04-04-2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bloomer (Post 12194480)
Yes If your in Business then GET IN BUSINESS!

OK. I know ready to agree with everyone else here. You ARE a moron.


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