No Ethics/Morals = $4,000 a month - GoFuckYourself.com

IntheBlue · 08-13-2002, 05:17 PM

A few months ago, I bid on an ebay auction for 9 million adult hits and won. Never thought I would get that many, but what the hell, so I did all the setup steps, although they were wholy incomplete and got less than 5 referrals to date. No biggie, I got ripped because I didn't do my research. I should have known because he hid his bidders and comments. Even tried to talk to the guy about it but he didn't care.

I was bored at work today so thought I would find out if that guy was still at it. Here are his current auctions: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=vidscen tral&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25

Yep, so I looked at his completed items:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&user id=vidscentral&include=0&since=30&sort=3&rows=200

This guy has banked about $4,000 (paste into excel and add colums) in 1 month selling totally bogus advertising hits on a site that is fed chinese traffic. Unbelievable!!

Lesson = No morals or ethics, and very eloquent marketing text that ultimately promises the world but no guarantees = $4,000 income a month.

Sometimes it absolutely sucks to have a conscience.

Juicy D. Links · 08-13-2002, 05:21 PM

how much did he get you for?

hahmike · 08-13-2002, 05:24 PM

maybe someone should pay a visit, and staple his face.

Theo · 08-13-2002, 05:24 PM

ebay is full of scammers and of course its not the proper place to make a traffic deal

Shoplifter · 08-13-2002, 05:26 PM

But did you get the 9 million hits?

The guy is operating fast but if he delivered it is not exactly fraud.
If it is then charge it back if you did Paypal.

Anyways buying traffic is crazy...If he could make money via sales
he would have taken it himself already. He just sold the worthless Guangzhao cyber cafe traffic.

Chris R · 08-13-2002, 05:29 PM

NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER

Bid on anyone who hides their feedback. eBay should be sued for some of the crap they pull. I used to make my living off of ebay and they will not do anything to cheaters like this. Even worse - you have some cheaters who will retaliate and leave negative feedback even though YOU DID NOTHING against the rules and they did. They will even say it in their feedback and ebay will do nothing.

Look at his retracted bids as well. Always check out the reason, but if someone has a retracted bid - it almost always means they changed their mind and think they are above the rules.

This guy is scum and should be arrested. He never will be most likely. One thing some people have done to get back at ebay's crappy policies is to make fake accounts and bid at the last minute to protect people from these scammers. It is against their rules of course, but when they refuse to pull someones account who is obviously cheating - what choice do you have.

Notice - as log as the person has more positive feeback than negative - ebay will not ban them 99% of the time.

I had some lady with 30+ bid retractions that retracted a bid on me as well. I reported her and they sent her a "warning".

eBay needs to start being held accountable. They lied to the public about the whole pez thing too.

jizz mopper · 08-13-2002, 05:32 PM

i thought ebay had a thing with treadeenable that they hold the money until the product is delivered, then they give the money to the seller.

hahmike · 08-13-2002, 05:33 PM

escrow

AWW - Kevin · 08-13-2002, 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by hahmike
escrow

simple good advice

B40 · 08-13-2002, 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by Chris R
NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER

Bid on anyone who hides their feedback. eBay should be sued for some of the crap they pull. I used to make my living off of ebay and they will not do anything to cheaters like this. Even worse - you have some cheaters who will retaliate and leave negative feedback even though YOU DID NOTHING against the rules and they did. They will even say it in their feedback and ebay will do nothing.

Good general rule there. eBay has a feature called private auction where the auction listing is not shown in the feedback profile. That should be good enough to simply cover selling porn or what not.

Brad Mitchell · 08-13-2002, 06:20 PM

If it looks too good to be true it most always is.

B40 · 08-13-2002, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by SinEmpire
If it looks too good to be true it most always is.

Yup. Caveat Emptor (sp?)

Probably selling hit bot traffic

IntheBlue · 08-13-2002, 07:46 PM

Juicylinks - just $20, its not the money, just the frustration

Hahmike - indeed, but I will wait until I am in his city to do it personally :P Not warranted to make a special trip.

Chris R - Yeps, learned my lesson. I am just frustrated that the little weeney continues to make a bit of jack off of others. I thought today about reporting him to the BBB or IRS or something but I don't know if there is even a process for that.

Jizz Mopper - Yep, did that too but paypal declined and said that they do not cover the quality of hte product, if it was delivered, it is fine by them. They seem to think 5 hits out of the millions was enough.

As to the rest, I agree completely. I got screwed and that is okay because this has only happened, and will only happen once, once to me.

I kinda feel that it was important to do two things: show others that buying traffic from www.directcelebrity.com is a big mistake, and also show some of the money hungry people how easy it could be to make a few bucks (and bring this guy some competition to snake some of his loot right out from under him). It would be easy as hell to do but I don't like to cheat like that.

sweandy · 08-13-2002, 07:52 PM

9 million hits for $20.. mm

Theo · 08-13-2002, 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by sweandy
9 million hits for $20.. mm

i can do half price

Warphead · 08-13-2002, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hahmike
escrow

They don't do escrow anymore, I think.

dropped9 · 08-13-2002, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IntheBlue
Juicylinks - just $20, its not the money, just the frustration

Can we say.... DUH!

tree · 08-13-2002, 11:57 PM

talk to gothweb a.k.a. Captain Morals!

FlyingIguana · 08-14-2002, 12:13 AM

isn't it 3 complaints of fraud and he gets banned on ebay?

i've had a couple people banned on ebay. if he's ripped off that many people there's no way he would still have an account.

FlyingIguana · 08-14-2002, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris R

Notice - as log as the person has more positive feeback than negative - ebay will not ban them 99% of the time.

I had some lady with 30+ bid retractions that retracted a bid on me as well. I reported her and they sent her a "warning".

eBay needs to start being held accountable. They lied to the public about the whole pez thing too.

not true, i had one guy banned who had like 30 positives and 0 negatives before i gave him a negative. show ebay the evidance and they will take action. thats what my experience has been.

FATPad · 08-14-2002, 12:17 AM

9 million hits for $20?

I'm selling the Brooklyn Bridge for $50. At least get something tangible if you're going to spend your hard earned money.

notjoe · 08-14-2002, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IntheBlue
A few months ago, I bid on an ebay auction for 9 million adult hits and won. Never thought I would get that many, but what the hell, so I did all the setup steps, although they were wholy incomplete and got less than 5 referrals to date. No biggie, I got ripped because I didn't do my research. I should have known because he hid his bidders and comments. Even tried to talk to the guy about it but he didn't care.

I was bored at work today so thought I would find out if that guy was still at it. Here are his current auctions: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=vidscen tral&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25

Yep, so I looked at his completed items:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&user id=vidscentral&include=0&since=30&sort=3&rows=200

This guy has banked about $4,000 (paste into excel and add colums) in 1 month selling totally bogus advertising hits on a site that is fed chinese traffic. Unbelievable!!

Lesson = No morals or ethics, and very eloquent marketing text that ultimately promises the world but no guarantees = $4,000 income a month.

Sometimes it absolutely sucks to have a conscience.

]

First off, the deal is way too good to be true, second (and to quote the auction page) :

"If just 1% of those people bought your item for say $5, thats $5,500,000 in your wallet!

The possibilities are endless.
"
Well, 1% or 6 million is 60,000, now if those 1% all bought something for $5 (6*60k) = $300,000 not $5.5 million.

Whoever did this is a moon, you should be a lot more careful with ebay. ;)

Joe

HomeGrown · 08-14-2002, 05:04 AM

Damn, what a homo that guy is. Should of known not to buy traffic off of eBay though.

TFCash · 08-14-2002, 05:25 AM

I had the same issue with him about 2 months ago, why do you think his profile is hidden

I went back in and bought up all his auctions and then posted bad comments on all of them

You should do the same thing !! Just buy up all his auctions and then no one else will be burned !!!

Tim

quiet · 08-14-2002, 05:27 AM

i only buy traffic from ebay.

Gator · 08-14-2002, 02:35 PM

All eBay cares about is getting their money. They don't care about scammers, people scalping tickets, and shit like that.

08-13-2002, 05:17 PM	#1
IntheBlue Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 70	No Ethics/Morals = $4,000 a month A few months ago, I bid on an ebay auction for 9 million adult hits and won. Never thought I would get that many, but what the hell, so I did all the setup steps, although they were wholy incomplete and got less than 5 referrals to date. No biggie, I got ripped because I didn't do my research. I should have known because he hid his bidders and comments. Even tried to talk to the guy about it but he didn't care. I was bored at work today so thought I would find out if that guy was still at it. Here are his current auctions: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=vidscen tral&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25 Yep, so I looked at his completed items: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&user id=vidscentral&include=0&since=30&sort=3&rows=200 This guy has banked about $4,000 (paste into excel and add colums) in 1 month selling totally bogus advertising hits on a site that is fed chinese traffic. Unbelievable!! Lesson = No morals or ethics, and very eloquent marketing text that ultimately promises the world but no guarantees = $4,000 income a month. Sometimes it absolutely sucks to have a conscience.

08-13-2002, 06:20 PM	#11
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,813	If it looks too good to be true it most always is. __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

08-13-2002, 07:46 PM	#13
IntheBlue Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 70	Juicylinks - just $20, its not the money, just the frustration Hahmike - indeed, but I will wait until I am in his city to do it personally :P Not warranted to make a special trip. Chris R - Yeps, learned my lesson. I am just frustrated that the little weeney continues to make a bit of jack off of others. I thought today about reporting him to the BBB or IRS or something but I don't know if there is even a process for that. Jizz Mopper - Yep, did that too but paypal declined and said that they do not cover the quality of hte product, if it was delivered, it is fine by them. They seem to think 5 hits out of the millions was enough. As to the rest, I agree completely. I got screwed and that is okay because this has only happened, and will only happen once, once to me. I kinda feel that it was important to do two things: show others that buying traffic from www.directcelebrity.com is a big mistake, and also show some of the money hungry people how easy it could be to make a few bucks (and bring this guy some competition to snake some of his loot right out from under him). It would be easy as hell to do but I don't like to cheat like that. Last edited by IntheBlue; 08-13-2002 at 07:49 PM..

08-14-2002, 05:27 AM	#25
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	i only buy traffic from ebay. __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

08-13-2002, 05:21 PM	#2
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	how much did he get you for?

08-13-2002, 05:24 PM	#3
hahmike So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,488	maybe someone should pay a visit, and staple his face.

08-13-2002, 05:24 PM	#4
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	ebay is full of scammers and of course its not the proper place to make a traffic deal

08-13-2002, 05:26 PM	#5
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,739	But did you get the 9 million hits? The guy is operating fast but if he delivered it is not exactly fraud. If it is then charge it back if you did Paypal. Anyways buying traffic is crazy...If he could make money via sales he would have taken it himself already. He just sold the worthless Guangzhao cyber cafe traffic.

08-13-2002, 05:29 PM	#6
Chris R Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 1,151	NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER Bid on anyone who hides their feedback. eBay should be sued for some of the crap they pull. I used to make my living off of ebay and they will not do anything to cheaters like this. Even worse - you have some cheaters who will retaliate and leave negative feedback even though YOU DID NOTHING against the rules and they did. They will even say it in their feedback and ebay will do nothing. Look at his retracted bids as well. Always check out the reason, but if someone has a retracted bid - it almost always means they changed their mind and think they are above the rules. This guy is scum and should be arrested. He never will be most likely. One thing some people have done to get back at ebay's crappy policies is to make fake accounts and bid at the last minute to protect people from these scammers. It is against their rules of course, but when they refuse to pull someones account who is obviously cheating - what choice do you have. Notice - as log as the person has more positive feeback than negative - ebay will not ban them 99% of the time. I had some lady with 30+ bid retractions that retracted a bid on me as well. I reported her and they sent her a "warning". eBay needs to start being held accountable. They lied to the public about the whole pez thing too.

08-13-2002, 05:32 PM	#7
jizz mopper Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 136	i thought ebay had a thing with treadeenable that they hold the money until the product is delivered, then they give the money to the seller.

08-13-2002, 05:33 PM	#8
hahmike So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,488	escrow

08-13-2002, 07:52 PM	#14
sweandy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 422	9 million hits for $20.. mm

08-13-2002, 11:57 PM	#18
tree Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,601	talk to gothweb a.k.a. Captain Morals!

08-14-2002, 12:13 AM	#19
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	isn't it 3 complaints of fraud and he gets banned on ebay? i've had a couple people banned on ebay. if he's ripped off that many people there's no way he would still have an account.

08-14-2002, 12:17 AM	#21
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	9 million hits for $20? I'm selling the Brooklyn Bridge for $50. At least get something tangible if you're going to spend your hard earned money.

08-14-2002, 05:04 AM	#23
HomeGrown Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 345	Damn, what a homo that guy is. Should of known not to buy traffic off of eBay though.

08-14-2002, 05:25 AM	#24
TFCash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,738	I had the same issue with him about 2 months ago, why do you think his profile is hidden I went back in and bought up all his auctions and then posted bad comments on all of them You should do the same thing !! Just buy up all his auctions and then no one else will be burned !!! Tim

08-14-2002, 02:35 PM	#26
Gator Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Don't live on GFY Posts: 1,119	All eBay cares about is getting their money. They don't care about scammers, people scalping tickets, and shit like that.