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GAMEFINEST · 03-31-2007, 05:06 PM

I guess gambling is very important issue to them

IllTestYourGirls · 03-31-2007, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST

I guess gambling is very important issue to them

more info?

GAMEFINEST · 03-31-2007, 05:08 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...033002161.html

IllTestYourGirls · 03-31-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...033002161.html

yesssssssssssss... TY I cant believe someone had not posted that at some gaming forums I look at

tony286 · 03-31-2007, 05:19 PM

it will never come back the mortar and brick casinos here lobbied too hard to get it banned.

GAMEFINEST · 03-31-2007, 05:20 PM

i like gambling

crockett · 03-31-2007, 05:24 PM

lol you think the US govt cares what the WTO thinks.. They already ignored the last WTO ruling about online gambling so why will this be any different.

Tony404 has it right.. it's not being banned because it's immoral as they claim. It's being banned because big biz casinos have lobbyists with deep pockets and the politicians pockets are deeper.

dynastoned · 03-31-2007, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

lol you think the US govt cares what the WTO thinks.. They already ignored the last WTO ruling about online gambling so why will this be any different.

Tony404 has it right.. it's not being banned because it's immoral as they claim. It's being banned because big biz casinos have lobbyists with deep pockets and the politicians pockets are deeper.

exactly.

StickyGreen · 03-31-2007, 05:29 PM

The op makes it sound like the U.S. government reversed that October law or something lol. Like crockett said, the government could care less about some WTO committee or whatever...

kane · 03-31-2007, 05:34 PM

I'm looking forward to hearing more about this. It's a nice step forward though.

borked · 03-31-2007, 05:42 PM

pfffft, since when did the US listen to the WTO?

http://www.rediff.com/money/2003/nov/12wto.htm
http://www.sunsonline.org/trade/proc...5/05220095.htm
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn1512
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/debats...45&LANG UE=EN
and so on

RawAlex · 03-31-2007, 05:49 PM

You can also read up on the US / Canada softwood lumber dispute. Canada won any number of times with the WTO, there is a free trade agreement in place, and yet the US slapped huge (50% or more) duties on lumber from Canada.

When it comes to trade, the US is the biggest bunch of pricks around.

IllTestYourGirls · 03-31-2007, 05:51 PM

All I care about is poker. I was making good $$ from two major sites. Party Poker and Titan poker. They both paid the best. I was rev sharing. When they shut their doors down to US players I lost most of my income from the poker affiliate game. I think thats all that most people want is for poker to be included in the law.

VicD · 03-31-2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST

I guess gambling is very important issue to them

and to me...

BlackCrayon · 03-31-2007, 06:01 PM

here is some more news on the subject

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070315/..._congress_dc_3

Rep. Barney Frank said on Thursday he will give details in the coming weeks on possible legislation to repeal a ban imposed last year on online gambling.

BlackCrayon · 03-31-2007, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

You can also read up on the US / Canada softwood lumber dispute. Canada won any number of times with the WTO, there is a free trade agreement in place, and yet the US slapped huge (50% or more) duties on lumber from Canada.

When it comes to trade, the US is the biggest bunch of pricks around.

They eventually lost that though and had to pay it back.

directfiesta · 03-31-2007, 08:11 PM

I would comment on this, but comments could be viewed by SPLUM as american-hating or american-bashing, with the consequences of a boycott.

Hot Mama Janet · 04-26-2007, 08:39 AM

So what are some places I can find out more info on online gambling laws?

Phoenix · 04-26-2007, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

You can also read up on the US / Canada softwood lumber dispute. Canada won any number of times with the WTO, there is a free trade agreement in place, and yet the US slapped huge (50% or more) duties on lumber from Canada.

When it comes to trade, the US is the biggest bunch of pricks around.

they are bullies...everyone knows it

i say we stop selling them water and see how they like watching their crops wither

of course theyd find WMD here in canada and need to invade

QuaWee · 04-26-2007, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

they are bullies...everyone knows it

i say we stop selling them water and see how they like watching their crops wither

of course theyd find WMD here in canada and need to invade

you are so funny

Why · 04-26-2007, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

they are bullies...everyone knows it

i say we stop selling them water and see how they like watching their crops wither

of course theyd find WMD here in canada and need to invade

you aint selling us water. it flows south because of gravity, you could try to keep it all but then you would get flooded ;)

WarChild · 04-26-2007, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

they are bullies...everyone knows it

i say we stop selling them water and see how they like watching their crops wither

of course theyd find WMD here in canada and need to invade

I think it's a little more of a symbiotic relationship than that. I've heard people in Canada say before "We can just stop selling X (water/wood/electricity) to the US. That'll show them!". In reality, Canada's not going to throw away that income for resources they can send elsewhere (especially in regards to water and energy).

Phoenix · 04-26-2007, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Why

you aint selling us water. it flows south because of gravity, you could try to keep it all but then you would get flooded ;)

come on man..you guys are no fun

i try hard at adding shit like this no need to debunk anything..lol

LiveDose · 04-26-2007, 09:13 AM

It's all about monopoly...

Ravage · 04-26-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

lol you think the US govt cares what the WTO thinks.. They already ignored the last WTO ruling about online gambling so why will this be any different.

Tony404 has it right.. it's not being banned because it's immoral as they claim. It's being banned because big biz casinos have lobbyists with deep pockets and the politicians pockets are deeper.

This is exactly right. Whether or not the WTO has the authority to re-institue US based banks to once again accept gaming transactions without the UIGEA coming into play is a major factor.

The main thing is, its too little, too late. Many people have already been arrested, companies have pulled out and sold outright, and processor companies have pulled out, downsized or outright closed shope.

The US gov't geezers won either way. They got effective results by passing UIGEA.

DaddyHalbucks · 04-26-2007, 09:44 AM

Without trade from the US, Canada would be a basket case.

CDSmith · 04-26-2007, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Without trade from the US, Canada would be a basket case.

Since Canada is the USA's largest trade partner, I'd say that the phrase "and vice-versa" applies.

:D

CDSmith · 04-26-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Tony404 has it right.. it's not being banned because it's immoral as they claim. It's being banned because big biz casinos have lobbyists with deep pockets and the politicians pockets are deeper.

What I find odd in all of this is, why didn't those "big casinos" extend their business online themselves instead of ruining the whole online gaming market for everyone?

They make themselves look like a pack of greedy selfish assholes in an industry supposedly based on entertainment and hospitality.

pornguy · 04-26-2007, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Tony404 has it right.. it's not being banned because it's immoral as they claim. It's being banned because big biz casinos have lobbyists with deep pockets and the politicians pockets are deeper.

Then that is the mistake of the people running the on line business. They have deep pockets as well. USE THEM!

Hot Mama Janet · 04-26-2007, 10:06 AM

I am just trying to find out some info here.
Is it legal in the U.S. to run an online casino?
Is it going to make a comeback??
I know a few years ago it was big but then I heard it might be banned from the U.S. and Canada but I have heard very little since then.
It looks like a good way to make a profit can anyone out there help me?

Please post links and or past experience in this kind of site that would help me to better understand any of this subject it would be a great help...
thanks-Janet

Hot Mama Janet · 04-26-2007, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hot Mama Janet

I am just trying to find out some info here.
Is it legal in the U.S. to run an online casino?
Is it going to make a comeback??
I know a few years ago it was big but then I heard it might be banned from the U.S. and Canada but I have heard very little since then.
It looks like a good way to make a profit can anyone out there help me?

Please post links and or past experience in this kind of site that would help me to better understand any of this subject it would be a great help...
thanks-Janet

Oh one more thing do you like money?
then roll the dice honey

Kard63 · 04-26-2007, 10:10 AM

I want a casino.

Hot Mama Janet · 04-26-2007, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kard63

I want a casino.

I want an online casino

King Adam · 04-26-2007, 10:27 AM

I don't know why the US wouldn't want online gaming. Its just more money they can tax on. Makes no sense. People are going to do it anyway.

Martin3 · 04-26-2007, 10:39 AM

The ban will be lifted when the B&M casinos are ready for it to be. Which will be when they have a plan to monopolize the industry, at least in the US. Then they will lobby to have the ban lift with their set of rules.

Hot Mama Janet · 04-26-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin3

The ban will be lifted when the B&M casinos are ready for it to be. Which will be when they have a plan to monopolize the industry, at least in the US. Then they will lobby to have the ban lift with their set of rules.

ok so its still illegal in the U.S. but where is it (legal) as of now?

tigermtb · 04-26-2007, 11:11 AM

Over and over again you see the USA do whatever the hell they want.
They want everyone else to follow their rules but won't follow rules themselves.

WTO says the USA online poker ban is illegal = they do it anyway, even though its illegal.

USA argues at the UN for invasion of Iraq is rejected = they do it anyway even though the war is illegal.

The USA government put tarriffs (taxes) on incoming Canadian softwood lumber, collecting billions in taxes which the WTO deem illegal. The US government did it to subsidize the US lumber industry and hasn't paid back the taxes. This is despite the free trade agreement.

Citing "mad cow disease" the US government closes the US-Canadian border to Canadian beef imports and the ban continues even after the issue is resolved and even after MANY more cases of mad cow disease are found in USA beef. The ban continues to help the US livestock industry.

= the USA does whatever the fuck they want as long as it benefits them. If anything ever comes up that hurts them, they cry bloody murder.

WarChild · 04-26-2007, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hot Mama Janet

I am just trying to find out some info here.
Is it legal in the U.S. to run an online casino?
Is it going to make a comeback??
I know a few years ago it was big but then I heard it might be banned from the U.S. and Canada but I have heard very little since then.
It looks like a good way to make a profit can anyone out there help me?

Please post links and or past experience in this kind of site that would help me to better understand any of this subject it would be a great help...
thanks-Janet

Is it legal to run an online casino in the US? You have heard very little since a few years ago? Are you for real?

Hot Mama Janet · 04-26-2007, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigermtb

Over and over again you see the USA do whatever the hell they want.
They want everyone else to follow their rules but won't follow rules themselves.

WTO says the USA online poker ban is illegal = they do it anyway, even though its illegal.

USA argues at the UN for invasion of Iraq is rejected = they do it anyway even though the war is illegal.

The USA government put tarriffs (taxes) on incoming Canadian softwood lumber, collecting billions in taxes which the WTO deem illegal. The US government did it to subsidize the US lumber industry and hasn't paid back the taxes. This is despite the free trade agreement.

Citing "mad cow disease" the US government closes the US-Canadian border to Canadian beef imports and the ban continues even after the issue is resolved and even after MANY more cases of mad cow disease are found in USA beef. The ban continues to help the US livestock industry.

= the USA does whatever the fuck they want as long as it benefits them. If anything ever comes up that hurts them, they cry bloody murder.

How do you think we feel living in this mess?
Its all about the $$$$$

If your outside the U.S. consider it a blessing .

Linkster · 04-26-2007, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

here is some more news on the subject

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070315/..._congress_dc_3

Rep. Barney Frank said on Thursday he will give details in the coming weeks on possible legislation to repeal a ban imposed last year on online gambling.

Just an update on this - he has introduced the bill(earlier today) however he doesnt think the votes are there yet - he is going to have hearings on it in June and until then its best if you are a US citizen to call, email and write your representatives to get this voted on

http://www.reuters.com/article/polit...48196320070426

Hot Mama Janet · 04-26-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Linkster

Just an update on this - he has introduced the bill(earlier today) however he doesnt think the votes are there yet - he is going to have hearings on it in June and until then its best if you are a US citizen to call, email and write your representatives to get this voted on

http://www.reuters.com/article/polit...48196320070426

well for what its worth I voted.
I would still like to know where it is (legal now) I know france wasnt to keen on the Idea.
where is online gambling exactly ok??

Webby · 04-26-2007, 11:30 AM

This is news?? :-)

It's actually the second ruling confirming US violation. After the first ruling the US govt lied and tried to claim they were in compliance - but could not provide evidence of that.

It's hard to comply with ratified treaties when domestic law conflicts with these treaties - specifically, the Wire Act and the Travel Act. Everyone got to make a choice at the end of the day

Hot Mama Janet · 04-26-2007, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

This is news?? :-)

It's actually the second ruling confirming US violation. After the first ruling the US govt lied and tried to claim they were in compliance - but could not provide evidence of that.

It's hard to comply with ratified treaties when domestic law conflicts with these treaties - specifically, the Wire Act and the Travel Act. Everyone got to make a choice at the end of the day

so what does it mean?

Fap · 04-26-2007, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kard63

I want a casino.

Unless you're indian i dont see that happening..

Hot Mama Janet · 04-26-2007, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by banthis

Unless you're indian i dont see that happening..

what does that have to do with anything?
come on now lets get to this matter.

12clicks · 04-26-2007, 11:39 AM

WTO

hahahaha

Webby · 04-26-2007, 11:41 AM

Asking me? :-)

Basically means it is illegal to interrupt credit card transactions going outside the US to existing trading partners.

The action was first brought by Antigua, Canada, UK and a few other countries in respect of unfair trading practices.

Suppose the next stage, tho no hurry, is either the US comply or the WTO will implement sanctions (tho kinda extreme in this instance) - but there will probably be some kinda penalties/liabilities until there is compliance.

tASSy · 04-26-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

they are bullies...everyone knows it

i say we stop selling them water and see how they like watching their crops wither

of course theyd find WMD here in canada and need to invade

of course, it'd take so long for all of the American troops to get through Canadian customs, they'd probably just give up and go back to the states.

CDSmith · 04-26-2007, 01:21 PM

That's it, you Americans have now officially offended Canada.

We are sending Sgt York Jr to fuck you up.

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