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  • GAMEFINEST
    Make STACK$
    • Nov 2006
    • 14478

    #1

    U.S. Ban On Web Gambling Rejected

    I guess gambling is very important issue to them
    Compound interest.
  • IllTestYourGirls
    Ah My Balls
    • Feb 2007
    • 14311

    #2
    Originally posted by GAMEFINEST
    I guess gambling is very important issue to them
    more info?

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    • GAMEFINEST
      Make STACK$
      • Nov 2006
      • 14478

      #3
      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...033002161.html
      Compound interest.

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      • IllTestYourGirls
        Ah My Balls
        • Feb 2007
        • 14311

        #4
        yesssssssssssss... TY I cant believe someone had not posted that at some gaming forums I look at

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        • tony299
          lurker
          • Aug 2002
          • 57021

          #5
          it will never come back the mortar and brick casinos here lobbied too hard to get it banned.

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          • GAMEFINEST
            Make STACK$
            • Nov 2006
            • 14478

            #6
            i like gambling
            Compound interest.

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            • crockett
              in a van by the river
              • May 2003
              • 76818

              #7
              lol you think the US govt cares what the WTO thinks.. They already ignored the last WTO ruling about online gambling so why will this be any different.

              Tony404 has it right.. it's not being banned because it's immoral as they claim. It's being banned because big biz casinos have lobbyists with deep pockets and the politicians pockets are deeper.
              In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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              • dynastoned
                mmm yeah!
                • Feb 2005
                • 5061

                #8
                Originally posted by crockett
                lol you think the US govt cares what the WTO thinks.. They already ignored the last WTO ruling about online gambling so why will this be any different.

                Tony404 has it right.. it's not being banned because it's immoral as they claim. It's being banned because big biz casinos have lobbyists with deep pockets and the politicians pockets are deeper.
                exactly.

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                • StickyGreen
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                  • Oct 2003
                  • 13076

                  #9
                  The op makes it sound like the U.S. government reversed that October law or something lol. Like crockett said, the government could care less about some WTO committee or whatever...
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                  • kane
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                    • Aug 2001
                    • 20684

                    #10
                    I'm looking forward to hearing more about this. It's a nice step forward though.

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                    • borked
                      Totally Borked
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 6284

                      #11
                      pfffft, since when did the US listen to the WTO?

                      http://www.rediff.com/money/2003/nov/12wto.htm
                      http://www.sunsonline.org/trade/proc...5/05220095.htm
                      http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn1512
                      http://www.europarl.europa.eu/debats...=145&LANGUE=EN
                      and so on

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                      • RawAlex
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 9465

                        #12
                        You can also read up on the US / Canada softwood lumber dispute. Canada won any number of times with the WTO, there is a free trade agreement in place, and yet the US slapped huge (50% or more) duties on lumber from Canada.

                        When it comes to trade, the US is the biggest bunch of pricks around.

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                        • IllTestYourGirls
                          Ah My Balls
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 14311

                          #13
                          All I care about is poker. I was making good $$ from two major sites. Party Poker and Titan poker. They both paid the best. I was rev sharing. When they shut their doors down to US players I lost most of my income from the poker affiliate game. I think thats all that most people want is for poker to be included in the law.

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                          • VicD
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                            • Feb 2005
                            • 13245

                            #14
                            Originally posted by GAMEFINEST
                            I guess gambling is very important issue to them
                            and to me...

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                            • BlackCrayon
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                              • Jun 2003
                              • 19634

                              #15
                              here is some more news on the subject

                              http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070315/..._congress_dc_3

                              Rep. Barney Frank said on Thursday he will give details in the coming weeks on possible legislation to repeal a ban imposed last year on online gambling.
                              you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                              • BlackCrayon
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                                • Jun 2003
                                • 19634

                                #16
                                Originally posted by RawAlex
                                You can also read up on the US / Canada softwood lumber dispute. Canada won any number of times with the WTO, there is a free trade agreement in place, and yet the US slapped huge (50% or more) duties on lumber from Canada.

                                When it comes to trade, the US is the biggest bunch of pricks around.
                                They eventually lost that though and had to pay it back.
                                you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                • directfiesta
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                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 30136

                                  #17
                                  I would comment on this, but comments could be viewed by SPLUM as american-hating or american-bashing, with the consequences of a boycott.
                                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                  • Hot Mama Janet
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Apr 2007
                                    • 175

                                    #18
                                    So what are some places I can find out more info on online gambling laws?

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                                    • Phoenix
                                      BACON BACON BACON
                                      • Nov 2002
                                      • 35475

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by RawAlex
                                      You can also read up on the US / Canada softwood lumber dispute. Canada won any number of times with the WTO, there is a free trade agreement in place, and yet the US slapped huge (50% or more) duties on lumber from Canada.

                                      When it comes to trade, the US is the biggest bunch of pricks around.
                                      they are bullies...everyone knows it

                                      i say we stop selling them water and see how they like watching their crops wither

                                      of course theyd find WMD here in canada and need to invade
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                                      • QuaWee
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                                        • Jul 2004
                                        • 5791

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Phoenix
                                        they are bullies...everyone knows it

                                        i say we stop selling them water and see how they like watching their crops wither

                                        of course theyd find WMD here in canada and need to invade
                                        you are so funny
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                                        • Why
                                          MFBA
                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 7230

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Phoenix
                                          they are bullies...everyone knows it

                                          i say we stop selling them water and see how they like watching their crops wither

                                          of course theyd find WMD here in canada and need to invade
                                          you aint selling us water. it flows south because of gravity, you could try to keep it all but then you would get flooded ;)

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                                          • WarChild
                                            Let slip the dogs of war.
                                            • Jan 2003
                                            • 17263

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Phoenix
                                            they are bullies...everyone knows it

                                            i say we stop selling them water and see how they like watching their crops wither

                                            of course theyd find WMD here in canada and need to invade
                                            I think it's a little more of a symbiotic relationship than that. I've heard people in Canada say before "We can just stop selling X (water/wood/electricity) to the US. That'll show them!". In reality, Canada's not going to throw away that income for resources they can send elsewhere (especially in regards to water and energy).
                                            .

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                                            • Phoenix
                                              BACON BACON BACON
                                              • Nov 2002
                                              • 35475

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Why
                                              you aint selling us water. it flows south because of gravity, you could try to keep it all but then you would get flooded ;)
                                              come on man..you guys are no fun

                                              i try hard at adding shit like this no need to debunk anything..lol
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                                              • LiveDose
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                                                • Feb 2002
                                                • 25792

                                                #24
                                                It's all about monopoly...

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                                                • Ravage
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                                                  • Mar 2007
                                                  • 2242

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by crockett
                                                  lol you think the US govt cares what the WTO thinks.. They already ignored the last WTO ruling about online gambling so why will this be any different.

                                                  Tony404 has it right.. it's not being banned because it's immoral as they claim. It's being banned because big biz casinos have lobbyists with deep pockets and the politicians pockets are deeper.
                                                  This is exactly right. Whether or not the WTO has the authority to re-institue US based banks to once again accept gaming transactions without the UIGEA coming into play is a major factor.

                                                  The main thing is, its too little, too late. Many people have already been arrested, companies have pulled out and sold outright, and processor companies have pulled out, downsized or outright closed shope.

                                                  The US gov't geezers won either way. They got effective results by passing UIGEA.
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                                                  • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                    • 18975

                                                    #26
                                                    Without trade from the US, Canada would be a basket case.
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                                                    • CDSmith
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                                                      • May 2001
                                                      • 51460

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                                      Without trade from the US, Canada would be a basket case.
                                                      Since Canada is the USA's largest trade partner, I'd say that the phrase "and vice-versa" applies.

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                                                      • CDSmith
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                                                        • May 2001
                                                        • 51460

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by crockett
                                                        Tony404 has it right.. it's not being banned because it's immoral as they claim. It's being banned because big biz casinos have lobbyists with deep pockets and the politicians pockets are deeper.
                                                        What I find odd in all of this is, why didn't those "big casinos" extend their business online themselves instead of ruining the whole online gaming market for everyone?

                                                        They make themselves look like a pack of greedy selfish assholes in an industry supposedly based on entertainment and hospitality.
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                                                        • pornguy
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                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 62912

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by crockett

                                                          Tony404 has it right.. it's not being banned because it's immoral as they claim. It's being banned because big biz casinos have lobbyists with deep pockets and the politicians pockets are deeper.
                                                          Then that is the mistake of the people running the on line business. They have deep pockets as well. USE THEM!
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                                                          • Hot Mama Janet
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                                                            • Apr 2007
                                                            • 175

                                                            #30
                                                            I am just trying to find out some info here.
                                                            Is it legal in the U.S. to run an online casino?
                                                            Is it going to make a comeback??
                                                            I know a few years ago it was big but then I heard it might be banned from the U.S. and Canada but I have heard very little since then.
                                                            It looks like a good way to make a profit can anyone out there help me?

                                                            Please post links and or past experience in this kind of site that would help me to better understand any of this subject it would be a great help...
                                                            thanks-Janet

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                                                            • Hot Mama Janet
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Apr 2007
                                                              • 175

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Hot Mama Janet
                                                              I am just trying to find out some info here.
                                                              Is it legal in the U.S. to run an online casino?
                                                              Is it going to make a comeback??
                                                              I know a few years ago it was big but then I heard it might be banned from the U.S. and Canada but I have heard very little since then.
                                                              It looks like a good way to make a profit can anyone out there help me?

                                                              Please post links and or past experience in this kind of site that would help me to better understand any of this subject it would be a great help...
                                                              thanks-Janet
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                                                              • Kard63
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                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                • 8944

                                                                #32
                                                                I want a casino.

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                                                                • Hot Mama Janet
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Apr 2007
                                                                  • 175

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Kard63
                                                                  I want a casino.
                                                                  I want an online casino

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                                                                  • King Adam
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                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                    • 5408

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I don't know why the US wouldn't want online gaming. Its just more money they can tax on. Makes no sense. People are going to do it anyway.

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                                                                    • Martin3
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                                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                                      • 1529

                                                                      #35
                                                                      The ban will be lifted when the B&M casinos are ready for it to be. Which will be when they have a plan to monopolize the industry, at least in the US. Then they will lobby to have the ban lift with their set of rules.
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                                                                      • Hot Mama Janet
                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                        • Apr 2007
                                                                        • 175

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Martin3
                                                                        The ban will be lifted when the B&M casinos are ready for it to be. Which will be when they have a plan to monopolize the industry, at least in the US. Then they will lobby to have the ban lift with their set of rules.
                                                                        ok so its still illegal in the U.S. but where is it (legal) as of now?

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                                                                        • tigermtb
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                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                          • 1062

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Over and over again you see the USA do whatever the hell they want.
                                                                          They want everyone else to follow their rules but won't follow rules themselves.

                                                                          WTO says the USA online poker ban is illegal = they do it anyway, even though its illegal.

                                                                          USA argues at the UN for invasion of Iraq is rejected = they do it anyway even though the war is illegal.

                                                                          The USA government put tarriffs (taxes) on incoming Canadian softwood lumber, collecting billions in taxes which the WTO deem illegal. The US government did it to subsidize the US lumber industry and hasn't paid back the taxes. This is despite the free trade agreement.

                                                                          Citing "mad cow disease" the US government closes the US-Canadian border to Canadian beef imports and the ban continues even after the issue is resolved and even after MANY more cases of mad cow disease are found in USA beef. The ban continues to help the US livestock industry.


                                                                          = the USA does whatever the fuck they want as long as it benefits them. If anything ever comes up that hurts them, they cry bloody murder.
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                                                                          • WarChild
                                                                            Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                            • 17263

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Hot Mama Janet
                                                                            I am just trying to find out some info here.
                                                                            Is it legal in the U.S. to run an online casino?
                                                                            Is it going to make a comeback??
                                                                            I know a few years ago it was big but then I heard it might be banned from the U.S. and Canada but I have heard very little since then.
                                                                            It looks like a good way to make a profit can anyone out there help me?

                                                                            Please post links and or past experience in this kind of site that would help me to better understand any of this subject it would be a great help...
                                                                            thanks-Janet
                                                                            Is it legal to run an online casino in the US? You have heard very little since a few years ago? Are you for real?
                                                                            .

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                                                                            • Hot Mama Janet
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Apr 2007
                                                                              • 175

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by tigermtb
                                                                              Over and over again you see the USA do whatever the hell they want.
                                                                              They want everyone else to follow their rules but won't follow rules themselves.

                                                                              WTO says the USA online poker ban is illegal = they do it anyway, even though its illegal.

                                                                              USA argues at the UN for invasion of Iraq is rejected = they do it anyway even though the war is illegal.

                                                                              The USA government put tarriffs (taxes) on incoming Canadian softwood lumber, collecting billions in taxes which the WTO deem illegal. The US government did it to subsidize the US lumber industry and hasn't paid back the taxes. This is despite the free trade agreement.

                                                                              Citing "mad cow disease" the US government closes the US-Canadian border to Canadian beef imports and the ban continues even after the issue is resolved and even after MANY more cases of mad cow disease are found in USA beef. The ban continues to help the US livestock industry.


                                                                              = the USA does whatever the fuck they want as long as it benefits them. If anything ever comes up that hurts them, they cry bloody murder.
                                                                              How do you think we feel living in this mess?
                                                                              Its all about the $$$$$

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                                                                              • Linkster
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                                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                                • 3216

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                here is some more news on the subject

                                                                                http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070315/..._congress_dc_3

                                                                                Rep. Barney Frank said on Thursday he will give details in the coming weeks on possible legislation to repeal a ban imposed last year on online gambling.
                                                                                Just an update on this - he has introduced the bill(earlier today) however he doesnt think the votes are there yet - he is going to have hearings on it in June and until then its best if you are a US citizen to call, email and write your representatives to get this voted on

                                                                                http://www.reuters.com/article/polit...48196320070426
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                                                                                • Hot Mama Janet
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Apr 2007
                                                                                  • 175

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Linkster
                                                                                  Just an update on this - he has introduced the bill(earlier today) however he doesnt think the votes are there yet - he is going to have hearings on it in June and until then its best if you are a US citizen to call, email and write your representatives to get this voted on

                                                                                  http://www.reuters.com/article/polit...48196320070426
                                                                                  well for what its worth I voted.
                                                                                  I would still like to know where it is (legal now) I know france wasnt to keen on the Idea.
                                                                                  where is online gambling exactly ok??

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                                                                                  • Webby
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                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                    • 14956

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    This is news?? :-)

                                                                                    It's actually the second ruling confirming US violation. After the first ruling the US govt lied and tried to claim they were in compliance - but could not provide evidence of that.

                                                                                    It's hard to comply with ratified treaties when domestic law conflicts with these treaties - specifically, the Wire Act and the Travel Act. Everyone got to make a choice at the end of the day
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                                                                                    • Hot Mama Janet
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Apr 2007
                                                                                      • 175

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Webby
                                                                                      This is news?? :-)

                                                                                      It's actually the second ruling confirming US violation. After the first ruling the US govt lied and tried to claim they were in compliance - but could not provide evidence of that.

                                                                                      It's hard to comply with ratified treaties when domestic law conflicts with these treaties - specifically, the Wire Act and the Travel Act. Everyone got to make a choice at the end of the day
                                                                                      so what does it mean?

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                                                                                      • Fap
                                                                                        Just Du It
                                                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                                                        • 12094

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Kard63
                                                                                        I want a casino.
                                                                                        Unless you're indian i dont see that happening..

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                                                                                        • Hot Mama Janet
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                                                          • 175

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by banthis
                                                                                          Unless you're indian i dont see that happening..
                                                                                          what does that have to do with anything?
                                                                                          come on now lets get to this matter.

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                                                                                          • 12clicks
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                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                            • 19813

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            WTO

                                                                                            hahahaha
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                                                                                            • Webby
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                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 14956

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Asking me? :-)

                                                                                              Basically means it is illegal to interrupt credit card transactions going outside the US to existing trading partners.

                                                                                              The action was first brought by Antigua, Canada, UK and a few other countries in respect of unfair trading practices.

                                                                                              Suppose the next stage, tho no hurry, is either the US comply or the WTO will implement sanctions (tho kinda extreme in this instance) - but there will probably be some kinda penalties/liabilities until there is compliance.
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                                                                                              • tASSy
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                                                                                                • Nov 2004
                                                                                                • 8229

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                                                                they are bullies...everyone knows it

                                                                                                i say we stop selling them water and see how they like watching their crops wither

                                                                                                of course theyd find WMD here in canada and need to invade
                                                                                                of course, it'd take so long for all of the American troops to get through Canadian customs, they'd probably just give up and go back to the states.



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                                                                                                • CDSmith
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                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                  • 51460

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  That's it, you Americans have now officially offended Canada.

                                                                                                  We are sending Sgt York Jr to fuck you up.


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