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fris · 03-21-2007, 09:22 AM

never seen so much hassle for a 20$ account.

just want to setup a domain with email

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Unfortunately one must be a resident of the USA/Canada to become a client of 1&1 Internet Inc. This includes only residents of the 50 USA states and not residents of offshore territories and protectorates.

As a result, we will ask that you provide us with the proof of your USA or Canadian ID. This documentation can consist of:

Passport
Green Card
and/or Drivers License/State ID

LiveDose · 03-21-2007, 09:24 AM

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SmokeyTheBear · 03-21-2007, 09:25 AM

wierd .. they never asked me for that

SmokeyTheBear · 03-21-2007, 09:25 AM

whatcha need hosting for , i might be able to help. i could set you up in a few minutes, no forms no hassle

RawAlex · 03-21-2007, 09:46 AM

Fris, I suspect they have been scammed over and over by, umm, certain "eastern block countries" and famous webmasters from places like Turkey and such. I think their restriction is reasonable and good.

However, they would need to learn that in requesting ID from a Canadian, they might have to comply with Canadian privacy laws.

directfiesta · 03-21-2007, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris

never seen so much hassle for a 20$ account.

just want to setup a domain with email

---

Unfortunately one must be a resident of the USA/Canada to become a client of 1&1 Internet Inc. This includes only residents of the 50 USA states and not residents of offshore territories and protectorates.

As a result, we will ask that you provide us with the proof of your USA or Canadian ID. This documentation can consist of:

Passport
Green Card
and/or Drivers License/State ID

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SmokeyTheBear · 03-21-2007, 09:52 AM

alot of companies are doing this these days..

i recently went to directnic to buy a domain , and i get a message " you must create an account first " , hmm ok no biggie i create account etc.

then it says , "your account must be approved first " , wtf ? so i just rgged it with an account i already had, funny enough i get an email the next day saying " sorry your application has been rejected " umm im just buying a domain, and i got personally rejected lol.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-21-2007, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Can set you up with virtual, unlimited domains, unlimited emails, 10 db, 3 gigs space, 50 gigs real bw... Cpanel, Fantastico
Dedicated IP : 1.00/ each.

address to ping:65.98.115.150

No spam ======

Epass or Paypal, month to month.

Prepay 3months, pay only 50.00 ( instead of 60.00 )

what he said , cept for half the price.

MBS Auto · 03-21-2007, 09:55 AM

yah, I guess so... I never had any issues with them

dougeetx · 03-21-2007, 09:56 AM

Wait until you get their hosting!! It suckz azz! I went for the super cheap hosting and that's exactly what I got. Server has been down on several occassions for SEVERAL DAYS! BEWARE!!

fris · 03-21-2007, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose

http://secure.hostgator.com/cgi-bin/...i?id=promotion

For a domain and email check these guys out. We have tested them out for a month with 30 active sites with no bumps on a virtual account.

Non ref link: www.hostgator.com

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bdld · 03-21-2007, 11:00 AM

i was going to put some domains there a while back, then i did research on them and heard horror stories in regards to their renewal process, with them sending you into collections if you dont renew a domain in time.

RawAlex · 03-21-2007, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

alot of companies are doing this these days..

i recently went to directnic to buy a domain , and i get a message " you must create an account first " , hmm ok no biggie i create account etc.

then it says , "your account must be approved first " , wtf ? so i just rgged it with an account i already had, funny enough i get an email the next day saying " sorry your application has been rejected " umm im just buying a domain, and i got personally rejected lol.

The reality is that for at least some parts of the web, the wild west mentality is all but over. Some companies are realizing that they could end up on the end of lawsuits, and are attempting to limit their liability. Directnic (although run by people I know) has proven in the last year to be very hard-ass when it comes to certain issues, and I think they are one of the more strict.

LiveDose · 03-21-2007, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris

clicked your ref link and signed up

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lonypny · 03-21-2007, 11:12 AM

Nice to know there are real, no-overselling, hosters!

03-21-2007, 11:13 AM

1and1.com ROCKS! I have NEVER had a problem with them... and I've used them for quite some time now (purchasing domains).

AK · 03-21-2007, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBS Auto

yah, I guess so... I never had any issues with them

yeah neither did/do I.

leedsfan · 03-21-2007, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris

never seen so much hassle for a 20$ account.

just want to setup a domain with email

---

Unfortunately one must be a resident of the USA/Canada to become a client of 1&1 Internet Inc. This includes only residents of the 50 USA states and not residents of offshore territories and protectorates.

As a result, we will ask that you provide us with the proof of your USA or Canadian ID. This documentation can consist of:

Passport
Green Card
and/or Drivers License/State ID

i have well over a hundred domains with them and never have had an issue. But im in canada i guess....

SmokeyTheBear · 03-21-2007, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

The reality is that for at least some parts of the web, the wild west mentality is all but over. Some companies are realizing that they could end up on the end of lawsuits, and are attempting to limit their liability. Directnic (although run by people I know) has proven in the last year to be very hard-ass when it comes to certain issues, and I think they are one of the more strict.

i can understand being a little overprotective but they arent a host .. their liability is slim slim.. I have never heard of a registrar being sued over something a customer did with his/her domain.

I dont expect wild west , but i also dont expect to get denied buying a domain when i can reg it fine anywhere else. if it had a questionable word i might understand a bit more.

webair · 03-21-2007, 01:22 PM

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elitegirls · 03-21-2007, 02:39 PM

1&1 sucks. thats united-internet. (german wannabee online company) buy their stock, own them and get your domains ;-)

otherwise just go to namecheap/enom, tierra.net .. and be happy.
don't use that german crap ;)

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-> http://www.registerflea.com/

RawAlex · 03-21-2007, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i can understand being a little overprotective but they arent a host .. their liability is slim slim.. I have never heard of a registrar being sued over something a customer did with his/her domain.

I dont expect wild west , but i also dont expect to get denied buying a domain when i can reg it fine anywhere else. if it had a questionable word i might understand a bit more.

Smokey, at this point, any time a DMCA notice goes out, a copy goes to the registrar. They, like anyone else in the chain of hosting, facilitate the violation of the copyright. There is action they can take to limit the infringement (deactivating the domain).

In all things, you are presumed innocent until notified, and then after that, the liability ramps up from there.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-21-2007, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Smokey, at this point, any time a DMCA notice goes out, a copy goes to the registrar. They, like anyone else in the chain of hosting, facilitate the violation of the copyright. There is action they can take to limit the infringement (deactivating the domain).

In all things, you are presumed innocent until notified, and then after that, the liability ramps up from there.

i agree ,then why the holdup... if theres alreadya a process in place to take care of it then why would they turn away customers.. ?

were not even talking about dmca.. im just talking about me going to register www.gdfg78dfg.com and them denying my request based on something..

SmokeyTheBear · 03-21-2007, 03:00 PM

dmca is a joke anyways , you and i both know if i filed a dmca against google they wouldnt gank google's domain , they would assume them innocent until i proved them guilty , if my site was www.fuckplace.com and google filed the same dmca against me mine would get ganked..

SmokeyTheBear · 03-21-2007, 03:03 PM

case and point was the guy who had his domain ganked with no warning over questionable aged pics that turned out to be 2257 compliant content.. instead of admitting " we used our personal judgement " etc etc they chose to use the " we got a dmca complaint " etc when we both know google itself has questionable pics and nobody ganks their domain, if i complained about a pic on google , do you really think if directnic was the registrar they would gank gfy with no warning until gfy proved the age of the girl in the picture ? i think not

asdfqwer · 03-21-2007, 03:35 PM

You coudl try their German website http://www.1und1.info but i heard too much negative about 1and1 so consider other companies as well

KrisKross · 03-21-2007, 09:00 PM

Odd. I have several accounts with them. I'm Canadian and I've never been asked for proof.

fris · 03-22-2007, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross

Odd. I have several accounts with them. I'm Canadian and I've never been asked for proof.

im in canada too, i tried signing up with hostgator and got the same thing, they said i was 2000 miles away from my billing address, dont know if their geoip is fucked or not.

LiveDose · 03-22-2007, 11:13 AM

That's weird. Sounds like something with the card... Contact the issuer maybe?

03-21-2007, 09:22 AM	#1
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	*1and1 what a fcking joke** never seen so much hassle for a 20$ account. just want to setup a domain with email --- Unfortunately one must be a resident of the USA/Canada to become a client of 1&1 Internet Inc. This includes only residents of the 50 USA states and not residents of offshore territories and protectorates. As a result, we will ask that you provide us with the proof of your USA or Canadian ID. This documentation can consist of: Passport Green Card and/or Drivers License/State ID __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

03-21-2007, 09:24 AM	#2
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03-21-2007, 09:25 AM	#3
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	wierd .. they never asked me for that __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

03-21-2007, 09:25 AM	#4
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	whatcha need hosting for , i might be able to help. i could set you up in a few minutes, no forms no hassle __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

03-21-2007, 09:52 AM	#7
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	alot of companies are doing this these days.. i recently went to directnic to buy a domain , and i get a message " you must create an account first " , hmm ok no biggie i create account etc. then it says , "your account must be approved first " , wtf ? so i just rgged it with an account i already had, funny enough i get an email the next day saying " sorry your application has been rejected " umm im just buying a domain, and i got personally rejected lol. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

03-21-2007, 09:46 AM	#5
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Fris, I suspect they have been scammed over and over by, umm, certain "eastern block countries" and famous webmasters from places like Turkey and such. I think their restriction is reasonable and good. However, they would need to learn that in requesting ID from a Canadian, they might have to comply with Canadian privacy laws.

03-21-2007, 09:55 AM	#9
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03-21-2007, 09:56 AM	#10
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03-21-2007, 11:00 AM	#12
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03-21-2007, 11:13 AM	#16
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03-21-2007, 02:39 PM	#21
elitegirls Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 962	1&1 sucks. thats united-internet. (german wannabee online company) buy their stock, own them and get your domains ;-) otherwise just go to namecheap/enom, tierra.net .. and be happy. don't use that german crap ;) @webair: registerfly is no more. ICANN finally fucked them..! -> http://www.registerflea.com/ __________________

03-21-2007, 03:00 PM	#24
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	dmca is a joke anyways , you and i both know if i filed a dmca against google they wouldnt gank google's domain , they would assume them innocent until i proved them guilty , if my site was www.fuckplace.com and google filed the same dmca against me mine would get ganked.. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

03-21-2007, 03:03 PM	#25
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	case and point was the guy who had his domain ganked with no warning over questionable aged pics that turned out to be 2257 compliant content.. instead of admitting " we used our personal judgement " etc etc they chose to use the " we got a dmca complaint " etc when we both know google itself has questionable pics and nobody ganks their domain, if i complained about a pic on google , do you really think if directnic was the registrar they would gank gfy with no warning until gfy proved the age of the girl in the picture ? i think not __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

03-21-2007, 03:35 PM	#26
asdfqwer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 431	You coudl try their German website http://www.1und1.info but i heard too much negative about 1and1 so consider other companies as well

03-21-2007, 09:00 PM	#27
KrisKross Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 5,024	Odd. I have several accounts with them. I'm Canadian and I've never been asked for proof. __________________

03-22-2007, 11:13 AM	#29
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