shooting HD in wide angle - bad idea? - GoFuckYourself.com

ElConquistador · 03-20-2007, 10:09 AM

I thought I read somewhere, can't remember where now, that when shooting in HD, you shouldn't use a wide angle lens? Although, if that's true, why is it I see so much stuff shot in HD with wide angle??

Zayne E. · 03-20-2007, 10:11 AM

The aspect ratio of HD is different than that of standard resolution. This might be why you think you're seeing HD through a 'wide angle'

ElConquistador · 03-20-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Zayne E.

The aspect ratio of HD is different than that of standard resolution. This might be why you think you're seeing HD through a 'wide angle'

No, I understand it's 16:9 for wide screen, but this is actually shot with an HD camera and wide angle lens... not quite the same thing I don't think... although maybe I'm wrong.

ElConquistador · 03-20-2007, 12:28 PM

no one knows the answer??

The Dawg · 03-20-2007, 12:49 PM

Ive shot using a wide angle lens on my FX1 and I didnt have any problems with quality. You only run into problems during editing if you are using other camera footage that isnt 16:9.

BobG · 03-20-2007, 01:35 PM

I use a wide with my FX1 too

abyss_al · 03-20-2007, 01:38 PM

if the wide angle lense is and add on on top of the existing camera lense, then yes.

ElConquistador · 03-20-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by abyss_al

if the wide angle lense is and add on on top of the existing camera lense, then yes.

Then yes you shouldn't do it? or then yes it's ok?

vidvicious · 03-20-2007, 02:18 PM

The question should be why do you want to shoot with a wide angle lens ...

Wide angle lens are used for different reason by different Shooters .. one of the most common reasons for a wide angle (nothing under .o6) would be for stability. a wide angle lens help stabilize an image.
Another reason would be for distortion ... the wider the lens the more the distortion ..
and lasty, the reason why pornographers use a wide .. is for stability when shooting Gonzo/flying camera ... and to get closer to the action with out losing the field of vision or getting to much of the set in the frame ...

What ever your reasons, shooting HD with a wide will not lower the quality of your image ...HOWEVER .. you do need to choose your Wide angle lens carefully. Because of the 16:9 aspect ration chances are you'll get clipping (see the edge of the lens in the corners of the frame) now this isn't a problem if your end product is for Television. safe area framing will eleminate that. But when Web is your final product you see the whole frame so this might be a problem .. just stay away from after market or Grey market lens. Or add yourself a step in Post and Crop the Video before rendering.

Vicious

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 03-20-2007, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vidvicious

The question should be why do you want to shoot with a wide angle lens ...

Wide angle lens are used for different reason by different Shooters .. one of the most common reasons for a wide angle (nothing under .o6) would be for stability. a wide angle lens help stabilize an image.
Another reason would be for distortion ... the wider the lens the more the distortion ..
and lasty, the reason why pornographers use a wide .. is for stability when shooting Gonzo/flying camera ... and to get closer to the action with out losing the field of vision or getting to much of the set in the frame ...

What ever your reasons, shooting HD with a wide will not lower the quality of your image ...HOWEVER .. you do need to choose your Wide angle lens carefully. Because of the 16:9 aspect ration chances are you'll get clipping (see the edge of the lens in the corners of the frame) now this isn't a problem if your end product is for Television. safe area framing will eleminate that. But when Web is your final product you see the whole frame so this might be a problem .. just stay away from after market or Grey market lens. Or add yourself a step in Post and Crop the Video before rendering.

Vicious

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stickyfingerz · 03-20-2007, 02:28 PM

Main problem can be vignetting like Vid said. The outer corners get fookered up a bit. But the right lens camera selection should handle it fine. We use wide angle lenses on our HV-10s for POV stuff. Reason being say you are shooting a HJ or BJ scene and doing pov. Unless you are really tall you would have to hold the camera a few feet above your head in order to catch all the action properly. With the wide angle lenses we dont have that problem at all. For the HV-10s we use http://raynox.co.jp/english/video/hd5000pro/index.htm raynox HD-5050 designed for HD video. Loss of quality is undetectable at least on a web format from my tests.

abyss_al · 03-21-2007, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElConquistador

Then yes you shouldn't do it? or then yes it's ok?

if 'clip on' then do not use.. you will lose quality

ElConquistador · 03-21-2007, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abyss_al

if 'clip on' then do not use.. you will lose quality

k cool, thanks for clearing that up

V_RocKs · 03-22-2007, 03:21 AM

You end up with fucked up edges.

03-20-2007, 10:09 AM	#1
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03-20-2007, 02:18 PM	#9
vidvicious Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 4,765	The question should be why do you want to shoot with a wide angle lens ... Wide angle lens are used for different reason by different Shooters .. one of the most common reasons for a wide angle (nothing under .o6) would be for stability. a wide angle lens help stabilize an image. Another reason would be for distortion ... the wider the lens the more the distortion .. and lasty, the reason why pornographers use a wide .. is for stability when shooting Gonzo/flying camera ... and to get closer to the action with out losing the field of vision or getting to much of the set in the frame ... What ever your reasons, shooting HD with a wide will not lower the quality of your image ...HOWEVER .. you do need to choose your Wide angle lens carefully. Because of the 16:9 aspect ration chances are you'll get clipping (see the edge of the lens in the corners of the frame) now this isn't a problem if your end product is for Television. safe area framing will eleminate that. But when Web is your final product you see the whole frame so this might be a problem .. just stay away from after market or Grey market lens. Or add yourself a step in Post and Crop the Video before rendering. Vicious __________________ 3D-VR live webcams Facebook profile "I take pics for the "Casual Encounters" section of Craigslist." Last edited by vidvicious; 03-20-2007 at 02:20 PM..

03-20-2007, 10:11 AM	#2
Zayne E. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,383	The aspect ratio of HD is different than that of standard resolution. This might be why you think you're seeing HD through a 'wide angle'

03-20-2007, 12:28 PM	#4
ElConquistador Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: West Coast Posts: 520	no one knows the answer??

03-20-2007, 12:49 PM	#5
The Dawg Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: State Of Bliss Posts: 2,438	Ive shot using a wide angle lens on my FX1 and I didnt have any problems with quality. You only run into problems during editing if you are using other camera footage that isnt 16:9.

03-20-2007, 01:35 PM	#6
BobG Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,274	I use a wide with my FX1 too

03-20-2007, 02:28 PM	#11
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	Main problem can be vignetting like Vid said. The outer corners get fookered up a bit. But the right lens camera selection should handle it fine. We use wide angle lenses on our HV-10s for POV stuff. Reason being say you are shooting a HJ or BJ scene and doing pov. Unless you are really tall you would have to hold the camera a few feet above your head in order to catch all the action properly. With the wide angle lenses we dont have that problem at all. For the HV-10s we use http://raynox.co.jp/english/video/hd5000pro/index.htm raynox HD-5050 designed for HD video. Loss of quality is undetectable at least on a web format from my tests.

03-22-2007, 03:21 AM	#14
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	You end up with fucked up edges.