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ElConquistador 03-20-2007 10:09 AM

shooting HD in wide angle - bad idea?
 
I thought I read somewhere, can't remember where now, that when shooting in HD, you shouldn't use a wide angle lens? Although, if that's true, why is it I see so much stuff shot in HD with wide angle??

Zayne E. 03-20-2007 10:11 AM

The aspect ratio of HD is different than that of standard resolution. This might be why you think you're seeing HD through a 'wide angle'

ElConquistador 03-20-2007 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zayne E. (Post 12116074)
The aspect ratio of HD is different than that of standard resolution. This might be why you think you're seeing HD through a 'wide angle'

No, I understand it's 16:9 for wide screen, but this is actually shot with an HD camera and wide angle lens... not quite the same thing I don't think... although maybe I'm wrong.

ElConquistador 03-20-2007 12:28 PM

no one knows the answer??

The Dawg 03-20-2007 12:49 PM

Ive shot using a wide angle lens on my FX1 and I didnt have any problems with quality. You only run into problems during editing if you are using other camera footage that isnt 16:9.

BobG 03-20-2007 01:35 PM

I use a wide with my FX1 too

abyss_al 03-20-2007 01:38 PM

if the wide angle lense is and add on on top of the existing camera lense, then yes.

ElConquistador 03-20-2007 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abyss_al (Post 12117370)
if the wide angle lense is and add on on top of the existing camera lense, then yes.


Then yes you shouldn't do it? or then yes it's ok?

vidvicious 03-20-2007 02:18 PM

The question should be why do you want to shoot with a wide angle lens ...

Wide angle lens are used for different reason by different Shooters .. one of the most common reasons for a wide angle (nothing under .o6) would be for stability. a wide angle lens help stabilize an image.
Another reason would be for distortion ... the wider the lens the more the distortion ..
and lasty, the reason why pornographers use a wide .. is for stability when shooting Gonzo/flying camera ... and to get closer to the action with out losing the field of vision or getting to much of the set in the frame ...

What ever your reasons, shooting HD with a wide will not lower the quality of your image ...HOWEVER .. you do need to choose your Wide angle lens carefully. Because of the 16:9 aspect ration chances are you'll get clipping (see the edge of the lens in the corners of the frame) now this isn't a problem if your end product is for Television. safe area framing will eleminate that. But when Web is your final product you see the whole frame so this might be a problem .. just stay away from after market or Grey market lens. Or add yourself a step in Post and Crop the Video before rendering.

Vicious

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 03-20-2007 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vidvicious (Post 12117568)
The question should be why do you want to shoot with a wide angle lens ...

Wide angle lens are used for different reason by different Shooters .. one of the most common reasons for a wide angle (nothing under .o6) would be for stability. a wide angle lens help stabilize an image.
Another reason would be for distortion ... the wider the lens the more the distortion ..
and lasty, the reason why pornographers use a wide .. is for stability when shooting Gonzo/flying camera ... and to get closer to the action with out losing the field of vision or getting to much of the set in the frame ...

What ever your reasons, shooting HD with a wide will not lower the quality of your image ...HOWEVER .. you do need to choose your Wide angle lens carefully. Because of the 16:9 aspect ration chances are you'll get clipping (see the edge of the lens in the corners of the frame) now this isn't a problem if your end product is for Television. safe area framing will eleminate that. But when Web is your final product you see the whole frame so this might be a problem .. just stay away from after market or Grey market lens. Or add yourself a step in Post and Crop the Video before rendering.

Vicious

Informative answer and good tips... :thumbsup

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stickyfingerz 03-20-2007 02:28 PM

Main problem can be vignetting like Vid said. The outer corners get fookered up a bit. But the right lens camera selection should handle it fine. We use wide angle lenses on our HV-10s for POV stuff. Reason being say you are shooting a HJ or BJ scene and doing pov. Unless you are really tall you would have to hold the camera a few feet above your head in order to catch all the action properly. With the wide angle lenses we dont have that problem at all. For the HV-10s we use http://raynox.co.jp/english/video/hd5000pro/index.htm raynox HD-5050 designed for HD video. Loss of quality is undetectable at least on a web format from my tests.

abyss_al 03-21-2007 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElConquistador (Post 12117410)
Then yes you shouldn't do it? or then yes it's ok?


if 'clip on' then do not use.. you will lose quality :thumbsup

ElConquistador 03-21-2007 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abyss_al (Post 12121159)
if 'clip on' then do not use.. you will lose quality :thumbsup

k cool, thanks for clearing that up :thumbsup

V_RocKs 03-22-2007 03:21 AM

You end up with fucked up edges.


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