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			I just noticed this on the Phoenix Forum seminar list....seems kind of weird that someone runs a company that funds piracy on all levels is being asked to tell us what the state of OUR industry is 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	AFF funding the piracy of BangBrosOnline content - http://www.btmon.com/torrent/bang%20bros AFF funding the piracy of New Sensations content - http://www.btmon.com/Porn/Unsorted/J...s.torrent.html and we all know about shooshtime http://www.shooshtime.com/ and of course, how could they not fund the stealing of paysite passwords also http://www.ultrapasswords.com/ Next year will we have "How to maximize your advertising dollar - presented by Zango, Inc."?  | 
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		 That is kind of odd.  They are on virtually every torrent, file sharing, password site on the web.  The links you posted is just a small sample.  Look at empornium.us and others that have them and others being promoted. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Sometimes I wonder about seminars.  They should have Jace doing a blog seminar.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
			I don't think they wan't people to know the real state of the industry. 
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		 yeah, I find it VERY odd that someone that basically funds the theft of others work is going to tell others about the state of OUR industry....I may be wrong though, but I would love to hear what others think 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I happened upon an endless loop of "crackz" websites/popups early today, all had AFF ads on them. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 This whole industry is like that. It's like an old boys network at the top. The rules don't apply and there is a lot of looking the other way. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 We don't wan't to give out our secrets.  I never really learned much at seminars. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I'll pay someone $100 bucks to ask him those questions at the seminar just for shits and giggles 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 haha, that's hilarious... if theres problems with the "state of the industry" he's somewhere on the list. Scumbags that support infecting people with spyware/adware and turn a blind eye to affiliates using stolen content give the whole industry a bad name. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 jace, can you hit me up please? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I also read that PibCash is speaking on Affiliate Management and Swoit is doing the segment entitled Sponsor Marketing. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Who booked him for that? Now will the webmasters there be pussys and clap for him or boo him off the stage. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 panels are dog and pony shows, no offense to anyone that sits on them, but why in an industry that we all know how it is behind the scenes, and how everyone stabs anyone for a nickel, would anyone in their right mind tell you traffic secrets and how to's about any fucking thing. i don't need my views of this industry in their pristine crystal gloryness obscured by anyone.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
	
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		 If this is what they want us to do, why bother arguing?  Make money stealing content with AFF.  Intercept affiliate codes too, as long as you get yours.  Look at all the people arguing in favor of these practices on this forum.  If it's ok with them, why shouldn't it be just fine for every other webmaster or newbie?  That's the message. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Damn.. Just finished reading most this thread. They fund a lot of dirty people.... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 should be the state of fucking over the industry. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 When did this industry turn into a bunch of whiny bitches that make no money? I missed the memo.... Lars has sent me MILLIONS of Dollars  over the years, literally and is truly a VERY savy guy... I think its time to thin the heard in this business for sure...  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 Whinny bitches? Places that steal my content and passwords are aff afiliates, that means aff funds this practice and really doesnt give a shit. You approve of this????? You support these slimey practices?????thin the herd of what the honest people ? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
	
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		 If your doing business great, what sites do you own, what content is yours, etc...but most of the whiners couldn't send a dozen sales in week and don't even own their own server... It was more of general statement to those we give credibility to these days over people who are making money... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 i love lards and can't wait to see this! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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