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#1 |
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$95000 offer for a domain, accept or reject?
I have a poker domain (which I will not name) earning $55/day on average for almost 2 years now. This is entirely from type-in traffic. I've done no advertising and it requires zero of my time to maintain. It's a very popular poker-related phrase.
I've received a serious $95k offer for the domain. That's almost equal to 5 years profit. However, I could see this name still performing well 10+ years from now, so I'm not sure what to do. Would you accept or reject the offer if you were me? |
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I would make a counter offer. Lets sat 125,000 they may come back with something over 100, and if so, I would jump on it.
100k in your pocket is better than 55 today, and NOTHING tomorrow
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#3 |
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counter offer
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#4 |
♥ ♦ ♣ ♠
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Sell. Don't even question it.
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Spend a day on developing it, or even outsource the development and you'll likely see your income skyrocket. If you need ideas hit me up on ICQ, 1566665.
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#6 |
So Fucking Banned
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you are kidding, right?
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#7 |
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sell it for sure
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#8 |
So Fucking Banned
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Take it and run. Online Poker is in the process of turning into a major pumpkin, 95k is a nice payout on a domain that makes 20k a year... that is 5 years income right there.
Take it and run! |
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#9 |
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Poker domains are a bit more difficult these days, as they're subject to continuously uncertain regulations. Advertisers on ROAR and such act accordingly, so that your PPC will fluctuate. It's not entirely certain that your domain will still be making this much in 10 years, but it could be more too.
When talking about revenue multiples, consider interest and such. 95k on 5% annual interest will be over 120k in 5 years, etc. |
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sell sell sell :D
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#11 |
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Sell it, when it comes to online gambling, 5 years or even 10 years is a really long time. Like Rhesus said, take, invest. Don't gamble
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#12 |
In Tushy Land
Join Date: Oct 2002
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no questions asked. sell sell sell
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#13 |
I guarantee it
Join Date: May 2005
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I would sell it.
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#15 |
sex is good
Join Date: Sep 2001
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for sure sell now
one never knows what may happen tomorrow |
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take the deal + tax
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Wow, so many people seeing obstacles and not one seeing opportunities.
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#18 |
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i would sell that ish in a ny minute
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#19 |
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LOL, you don't even know the domain nor to what extent he has optimised it. "Development" doesn't always equal growth in revenue, especially not for gambling-related domains, that generally perform best parked with Fab.
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counter offer!
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#21 |
Show Yer Tits!
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I am going to go against the grain. A domain making @ $1700 a month with zero effort. If you don't need the money I would hold it. It's obviously a gem. If it's making that with no effort imagine what it would make if you got someone to develop it.
Recurring income beats a lump sum any day...
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#22 |
I can change this!!!!!
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take the $ and run.. fast..
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#23 |
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Agreed, I do not know much, but to me it sounded like it makes money from type-ins alone, which to me suggests it hasn't been developed. If it's a good poker term he can triple that average income very fast, with very little investment.
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#24 |
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make a counter-offer! if it's worth 95k to them they might well add another 10 to 20k...make them feel that you don't have to sell...good luck!
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#25 |
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keep it, outsource it, pwn it
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#26 |
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If you really do buy domains, hit me up...I've got some to sell.
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#29 |
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depends on whether or not you need an extra 95k right now, and whether or not you want to spend the time developing it.
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#30 |
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I'd sell for sure.
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well its a good offer
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#32 |
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Sell it to them.
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#33 |
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DEAL?.......
Or NO DEAL??? Take the deal, 5 years turnover is more then you can wish for nowadays.
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#34 |
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I'd say use your "call a friend" or ask the audience.
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Counteroffer to 120k, see if they increase the initial bid to 110 and call it a day. If they are reluctant, take the 95k factor in the tax and walk away. 5yrs worth of revenue is pretty damn good and gives you enough capital to invest in another project or other keyword domains that will generate the same or more.
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If that was the first offer, negotiate a little even though it does seem rather generous to me. Consider the 5 years worth of revenue and what you've done to earn it thus far. If you're not going to develop it, you may as well leverage the money by selling it towards your ventures. I say sell, but to get a little more if you haven't done so already.
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#37 |
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Why wouldn't you tell us the domain. An anonymous buyer wants to give you 95,000 for an anonymous domain, wo would believe that?
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allin.com I would think for that price it would have to be something extremely common. straightflush.com royalflush.com But who knows.
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#39 |
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If you are a US citizen ------- sell.
If you live in a country where gambling is or never will be a legal liability from the mob or your government (same thing right?) ------- never sell. (That being said - get your ass to work lead capturing off that page and get to cross selling them to other poker offers! 55 a day is low for a hot typein in that industry imo) PS: Send that buyer my way if they're looking for a nice 'vegas' 'strategies' domain. ![]()
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Exactly, you live in Costa Rica or Monaco? then your in biz. Otherwise sell.
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#41 |
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I owuld never accept a first offer.
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Try it get it a bit higher and sell.
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#43 |
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id probably sell it, but really its something you can only decide on yourself
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Things don't look too bright for poker now a days... I would negotiate and then sell it...
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#46 |
Just Du It
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counter offer could make them discouraged.. take it!
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...sell .. sell .... and sell
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#48 |
Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
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I think you should sell.. But not for that price.
If they are planning on putting a casino on that domain I would ask for a lot more. They will be willing to buy at any price up to $250,000 I would imagine. I would research on weather or not they are putting balls into the basket. Perhaps you can give them a nod and then see if they do something like make a DBA based on it... See if they get their ball rolling and then up the cost accordingly... |
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#49 |
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Sell it! Poker is SOOO 2006!
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$100,000
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i'd sell it and not look back.
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