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Old 03-10-2007, 07:11 AM   #1
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FBI busted for abusing patriot act

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070309/D8NORU3G0.html


This is sooooo wrong.
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Old 03-10-2007, 07:15 AM   #2
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keep it down... big brother is watching
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Old 03-10-2007, 07:17 AM   #3
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the feds abusing the patriot act?!!!

no way!
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Old 03-10-2007, 08:53 AM   #4
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Give em a break. Gonzalez apologized and said it would never happen again.
(cough, cough)
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Old 03-10-2007, 09:01 AM   #5
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sometime you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.
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Old 03-10-2007, 09:04 AM   #6
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Old 03-10-2007, 10:18 AM   #7
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wow, I didn't see that coming LOL
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Old 03-10-2007, 10:22 AM   #8
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Old 03-10-2007, 10:52 AM   #9
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the comedy of people pointing this out (often foreigners) with ill intent, is that it also shows the government is also functioning exactly as it should. the FBI was watched, investigated, reported on and next will be congressional hearings. as usual, the system of checks and balances work quite well.
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Old 03-10-2007, 11:13 AM   #10
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the comedy of people pointing this out (often foreigners) with ill intent, is that it also shows the government is also functioning exactly as it should. the FBI was watched, investigated, reported on and next will be congressional hearings. as usual, the system of checks and balances work quite well.
checks and balances are supposed to STOP things like this from happening, not allow it, and have a dateline special about it a few months later
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Old 03-10-2007, 11:16 AM   #11
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and the pendulum swings........
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Old 03-10-2007, 11:20 AM   #12
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checks and balances are supposed to STOP things like this from happening, not allow it, and have a dateline special about it a few months later
government reports, publicity and government investigations and congressional hearings wont stop it from happening?

are you running out of tin foil?
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Old 03-10-2007, 11:23 AM   #13
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are you running out of tin foil?
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Old 03-10-2007, 11:24 AM   #14
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government reports, publicity and government investigations and congressional hearings wont stop it from happening?
well, considering IT ALREADY HAPPENED . . .
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Old 03-10-2007, 11:28 AM   #15
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well, considering IT ALREADY HAPPENED . . .
"stop it from happening" - "stop" .... "to put and end to"

you are not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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Old 03-10-2007, 11:52 AM   #16
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"stop it from happening" - "stop" .... "to put and end to"

you are not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer.
um.. okay... read carefully

in order to stop something from happening, it can't have ALREADY happened, because if it did, you didn't fucking stop it, it happened

And what's with all the personal insults anyway?
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Old 03-10-2007, 11:54 AM   #17
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checks and balances are supposed to STOP things like this from happening, not allow it, and have a dateline special about it a few months later
AGREED!

You could also relate this to Scooter Libby lying...being convicted of lying...then being pardoned.

Just ridiculous.
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Old 03-10-2007, 11:59 AM   #18
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um.. okay... read carefully

in order to stop something from happening, it can't have ALREADY happened, because if it did, you didn't fucking stop it, it happened

And what's with all the personal insults anyway?

and your argument assumes a perfect government, full of perfect people who never make mistakes, where power is never abused, where the law is never broken.... hence no need to stop it after the fact, as it would never happen.
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Old 03-10-2007, 12:03 PM   #19
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and your argument assumes a perfect government, full of perfect people who never make mistakes, where power is never abused, where the law is never broken.... hence no need to stop it after the fact, as it would never happen.
no actually my argument is about whether or not the system of checks and balances, well, balances

u sure you're not the dull knife?
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Old 03-10-2007, 12:06 PM   #20
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no actually my argument is about whether or not the system of checks and balances, well, balances

u sure you're not the dull knife?
the system is designed to keep branchs of government and their power in check... not prevent mistakes or abuses from ever happening, under any circumstances, in perpetuity, throughout the universe.
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Old 03-10-2007, 03:47 PM   #21
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The bottom line is that it occured in the first place. Given the opportunity to fuck it up, we will.

That's why Ninjagirl's comment is so on target. These laws are in place to prevent and rehab when things go awry.
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Old 03-10-2007, 04:10 PM   #22
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well, considering IT ALREADY HAPPENED . . .
When a murderor kills someone it's already happened as well. The best any system can do is learn from the events that take place and respond accordingly (in that case put the person in jail\excecute them as law dictates).

At least in a system based on consequentionalism.

The law can't stop me from getting up and killing my neighbor right now. All it can do is insure I'm punished if I choose to do so.
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Old 03-10-2007, 04:15 PM   #23
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The real story should be "No one seems to care".
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Old 03-10-2007, 05:58 PM   #24
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I was suprised to see A. Gonzalez talking about how the FBI will be held accountable. I was happy to see he is working both sides of things to show that he cares.
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Old 03-10-2007, 07:33 PM   #25
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