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BigPinPin · 03-13-2007, 03:52 PM

First at all: What is a good design ? I see bad designs even at award winners...
Most of the designs I see in the industry today aren´t made for surfers anymore, they are made to attract webmasters, that´s a fact !

Za Ha · 03-13-2007, 04:12 PM

You get what you pay for. Simple as that.
You hire someone shit you get shit layouts.

You hire the best, and you get the best.

Twisted Dave · 03-13-2007, 04:29 PM

If ONE guy is calling themselves a 'DESIGNER' and they do ART, CREATIVE WRITING, FULL CSS/HTML code...

They're a jack of all trades. 99% of these guys will NOT be good at the work they do. They'll be average at best.

Go to an artist for art, a writer for creative writing, and a coder for code. You'll pay more, but you'll be happier with your product.

We offer art... we also offer code. But I ALWAYS make sure people know that my coder is a seperate person who quotes seperate. He just exclusively works through me in the adult industry. I KNOW he's top notch, and I know him personally outside of the interweb, so I know he's a top guy too. I'd not use him unless I knew he was quality.

cj_purve · 03-13-2007, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by twisted Illustration

If ONE guy is calling themselves a 'DESIGNER' and they do ART, CREATIVE WRITING, FULL CSS/HTML code...

They're a jack of all trades. 99% of these guys will NOT be good at the work they do. They'll be average at best.

Go to an artist for art, a writer for creative writing, and a coder for code. You'll pay more, but you'll be happier with your product.

We offer art... we also offer code. But I ALWAYS make sure people know that my coder is a seperate person who quotes seperate. He just exclusively works through me in the adult industry. I KNOW he's top notch, and I know him personally outside of the interweb, so I know he's a top guy too. I'd not use him unless I knew he was quality.

That's a load of rubbish. You may only be able to design, but there are MANY great designers who can write and program and do them well. Its called experience.

No 2 designers have exactly the same set of skills. You pick the designer who has the combination that you need most for your specific project. And picking someone who is just an artist is not going to get you a better design than picking someone who is a 'jack of all trades' as you call it.

Besides, who wants an artist creating their business brand? Artists do what they do for arts sake, not for business. The difference between an artist and a designer is the ability to sell & market the art work they produce into a commercial product. A designer who can't write is just an artist ... if all you want are pretty pictures, then that's who ya talk to.

Twisted Dave · 03-13-2007, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj_purve

That's a load of rubbish. You may only be able to design, but there are MANY great designers who can write and program and do them well. Its called experience.

No 2 designers have exactly the same set of skills. You pick the designer who has the combination that you need most for your specific project. And picking someone who is just an artist is not going to get you a better design than picking someone who is a 'jack of all trades' as you call it.

Besides, who wants an artist creating their business brand? Artists do what they do for arts sake, not for business. The difference between an artist and a designer is the ability to sell & market the art work they produce into a commercial product. A designer who can't write is just an artist ... if all you want are pretty pictures, then that's who ya talk to.

Well sorry man, but I think you're talking shit too

Because I said 99%. Plus, I'd rather focus my time into the quality of the art I'm creating. Experience? Sorry man, I've been professionally doing art work for well over a decade, so you talking about experience is wrong.

I think you're creating an argument here that isn't there too ... you're saying because I'm an artist that I can't be a designer? I think you know full well that you're twisting the situation. I call myself an artist, because I create art. But do my clients think I can't design? Sorry... that's crap.

Twisted Dave · 03-13-2007, 06:40 PM

I guess at the end of the day, it depends what you're looking for. I truly believe that most of the time, if you want the best, you gotta go dedicated. Otherwise that person is sharing their time and effort over multiple tasks. That said... I did say 99%. I didnt' say ALL. So there is a difference.

It's just my two cents

If I'm talking out of my 'artist' ass, just ignore me :P

Barefootsies · 03-13-2007, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twisted Illustration

I guess at the end of the day, it depends what you're looking for. I truly believe that most of the time, if you want the best, you gotta go dedicated. Otherwise that person is sharing their time and effort over multiple tasks. That said... I did say 99%. I didnt' say ALL. So there is a difference.

It's just my two cents

If I'm talking out of my 'artist' ass, just ignore me :P

03-13-2007, 04:29 PM	#53
Twisted Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,635	If ONE guy is calling themselves a 'DESIGNER' and they do ART, CREATIVE WRITING, FULL CSS/HTML code... They're a jack of all trades. 99% of these guys will NOT be good at the work they do. They'll be average at best. Go to an artist for art, a writer for creative writing, and a coder for code. You'll pay more, but you'll be happier with your product. We offer art... we also offer code. But I ALWAYS make sure people know that my coder is a seperate person who quotes seperate. He just exclusively works through me in the adult industry. I KNOW he's top notch, and I know him personally outside of the interweb, so I know he's a top guy too. I'd not use him unless I knew he was quality. __________________ Custom Cartoon Mascots - ICQ: 243355699, Email: [email protected] or Click Sig - 15% referrals. Send me clients, make money!

03-13-2007, 06:40 PM	#56
Twisted Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,635	I guess at the end of the day, it depends what you're looking for. I truly believe that most of the time, if you want the best, you gotta go dedicated. Otherwise that person is sharing their time and effort over multiple tasks. That said... I did say 99%. I didnt' say ALL. So there is a difference. It's just my two cents If I'm talking out of my 'artist' ass, just ignore me :P __________________ Custom Cartoon Mascots - ICQ: 243355699, Email: [email protected] or Click Sig - 15% referrals. Send me clients, make money!

03-13-2007, 03:52 PM	#51
BigPinPin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 894	First at all: What is a good design ? I see bad designs even at award winners... Most of the designs I see in the industry today aren´t made for surfers anymore, they are made to attract webmasters, that´s a fact !

03-13-2007, 04:12 PM	#52
Za Ha Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still lost Posts: 5,112	You get what you pay for. Simple as that. You hire someone shit you get shit layouts. You hire the best, and you get the best.