FACT! Most Adult Web Designers SUCK!!!! - GoFuckYourself.com

J.R. · 03-08-2007, 08:31 PM

( Most, not all )

This is a proven fact, just ask around and you will find out.

I ask for designers, not some idiot who learned how
to make a banner last week and made two free adult sites
5 years ago to promote Adult Check or Age Check.

FACTS TO SUPPORT MY CLAIM:

1) Pixelated images
2) Same fucking colors
3) Cannot spell correctly
4) NO attention to detail
5) Overpriced crap
6) Stretch the images to make a fat chick look skinny
7) No creativity
8) Never complete jobs on time
9) Use yellow and orange for every design

Most outsourcing companies are guilty of the same.

If anyone knows a REAL designer, let me know!
I have some work for them.

Thanks,

smutx · 03-08-2007, 08:32 PM

have you tried patrick? ... see sig

Adultnet · 03-08-2007, 08:34 PM

well as long they sell its fine with me.

Avery · 03-08-2007, 08:38 PM

Good luck bump for you

03-08-2007, 09:20 PM

i would be happy to work with you...take a look at my portfolios.

www.envisionextadult.com (Adult)
www.envisionext.com (Mainstream)
www.pure7.com (Post Production & Animation)
www.envisionext.com/moveahead (Flash Work)

Contact me anytime to discuss your needs. ICQ 721536 Email: ian AT envisionext.com

spacedog · 03-08-2007, 09:24 PM

Hey.,, Headless just delivered the gallery templates he did for me & they're FUCKING FANTASTIC..

I'll be posting them up shortly as soon as I finish up thumbs 35-534-250 is his ICQ if you need something done.. Can't recall of top of my head his portfolio url, but should be easy to find.. just gfy search headless..

Nodtveidt · 03-08-2007, 10:28 PM

I'm personally not the best visual designer when it comes to websites but my underlying code is always rock-solid and my English is exceptional. I don't claim to be the most color-coordinated web designer either, but thumbnailing is a special interest to me...so much so that I wrote my own thumbnailer application out of desperation.

However, I do agree that a lot of the smaller adult websites were designed by someone with the design sense of an ox. It happens.

DjSap · 03-08-2007, 10:33 PM

Stretching fat chicks to make them look skinny is what pro's do, they use the same technique in fashion magazines dude.

Nodtveidt · 03-08-2007, 10:38 PM

I must say though, I have to agree heavily with point 7, even for some of the larger sites. Then again, there's only so much creativity you can use...

CC · 03-08-2007, 10:42 PM

It's all about the conversions. WHO CARES about anything else?!?!?!?

maxpower · 03-08-2007, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CC

It's all about the conversions. WHO CARES about anything else?!?!?!?

I do, I want someone that can bring my vision to life, not use a cookie cutter to create it. Besides if your depending on your designer to tell you how to construct sites that convert you have some problems

SPACE GLIDER · 03-08-2007, 11:14 PM

I agree whole-heartedly agree

maxpower · 03-08-2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SPACE GLIDER

I agree whole-heartedly agree

Hows it going man, you working hard

1215 · 03-08-2007, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.R.

( Most, not all )

This is a proven fact, just ask around and you will find out.

I ask for designers, not some idiot who learned how
to make a banner last week and made two free adult sites
5 years ago to promote Adult Check or Age Check.

FACTS TO SUPPORT MY CLAIM:

1) Pixelated images
2) Same fucking colors
3) Cannot spell correctly
4) NO attention to detail
5) Overpriced crap
6) Stretch the images to make a fat chick look skinny
7) No creativity
8) Never complete jobs on time
9) Use yellow and orange for every design

Most outsourcing companies are guilty of the same.

If anyone knows a REAL designer, let me know!
I have some work for them.

Thanks,

a lot of the ones you mention hang out here. finding a good designer here is like finding a virgin at an orgy - rare and unbelievable.

maxpower · 03-08-2007, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 1215

a lot of the ones you mention hang out here. finding a good designer here is like finding a virgin at an orgy - rare and unbelievable.

Dont say that, where else do we have to go to find one?

kaori · 03-08-2007, 11:50 PM

hahah, yeah.. I'm looking too.. found a few possibilities on here - but want more!

sexxxydesign.com · 03-08-2007, 11:54 PM

point 3 is very common.. point 8 some will some wont..point 5 ?? Overpriced? prices keep going down every day..

CDSmith · 03-08-2007, 11:59 PM

I can think of several solid designers. Although I'm inclined to agree with you on "most" people out there, they are probably mostly made up of those I wouldn't go looking for or recommending anyway.

It's not hard to find the real deal, you should be able to ask anyone who's been around a long time and they should be able to tell you who's good and reliable. As I said, I can think of several.

I don't know how busy Fletch is right now but he does good work. Same with Headless. Plenty of others who do work for whatever companies they're with, but some of them might take on extra work from time to time I don't know. Sarah_Webinc has had quite a few compliments on her work thrown her way over the years.

And what the hell, I myself have done quite a bit of freelance work over the past 7 or 8 years and have never had a complaint. I just don't put myself out there as a "designer" because I do too many other things to devote all my time to it.

Go with the long time reputable.

And I'm not bagging on newbs and outsourcers exactly, they deserve a chance too... but they have to PROVE themselves. You want repeat business in adult? Then do deliver the kind of service J.R. is asking for above, and deliver it to EVERY CUSTOMER YOU GET, period. Do that and it won't take long for word to get around that you're a go-to designer too.

Theo · 03-08-2007, 11:59 PM

It's not designer's job to write the text, this is part of the marketing pitch of a website.

maxpower · 03-09-2007, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kaori

hahah, yeah.. I'm looking too.. found a few possibilities on here - but want more!

Ya I am searching threads now to compile a list, would love to settle on one tomorrow or the next day

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 03-09-2007, 01:09 AM

i like to think i do something a little better than the norm when i design a site for myself. does it help any in the long run? i don't know, some of the simplest piece of shit looking sites seem to do the best. i know with my next wave of RSS fed blogs i'm going to keep things pretty basic. my code isn't always the most solid, but as far as color and looks go, i can usually handle myself, and outsource the cleaning up of the code...

tyeakle · 03-09-2007, 01:48 AM

I can help you out. Here are some samples

maxpower · 03-09-2007, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sexxxydesign.com

point 3 is very common.. point 8 some will some wont..point 5 ?? Overpriced? prices keep going down every day..

My problems are # 4 & 7

TeenCat · 03-09-2007, 02:01 AM

most of the people offering work for designers sucks! i replied to at least 10 offers for job, i was mostly first or at the first places, i am doing design in few hours, for i think very small price, but when i contacted the people looking for "fast designer" they cant even reply to my ping! only two from as i said 10+-. so its really great to see "designers sucks". come on, wake up before you will say those sh*tty words

maxpower · 03-09-2007, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat

most of the people offering work for designers sucks! i replied to at least 10 offers for job, i was mostly first or at the first places, i am doing design in few hours, for i think very small price, but when i contacted the people looking for "fast designer" they cant even reply to my ping! only two from as i said 10+-. so its really great to see "designers sucks". come on, wake up before you will say those sh*tty words

That is not a problem for me, my work comes first if I am awake I am online to offer feed back and any help I can

flashfreak · 03-09-2007, 02:34 AM

I'm good.. but I don't have enough time

mlove · 03-09-2007, 02:35 AM

most of today's web designers suck.

v4 media · 03-09-2007, 02:36 AM

The same can be said of alot of people wanting designs..
They want it in a day, they want it as cheap as possible, and you ask them what they want, they say you're a designer you should know...

I've worked for the same company for more than 3 years, not exclusive but they give me so much work I don't need to look anywhere else.
Although they are starting to take everything in house so I'll be looking for work again soon..hehe

So reasonable designers are about, but most have been snapped up..

Twisted Dave · 03-09-2007, 03:14 AM

Give us a look and shout ...

New samples coming to the site soon ... very soon ...

Barefootsies · 03-09-2007, 06:10 PM

OY · 03-09-2007, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.R.

( Most, not all )

This is a proven fact, just ask around and you will find out.

I ask for designers, not some idiot who learned how
to make a banner last week and made two free adult sites
5 years ago to promote Adult Check or Age Check.

FACTS TO SUPPORT MY CLAIM:

1) Pixelated images
2) Same fucking colors
3) Cannot spell correctly
4) NO attention to detail
5) Overpriced crap
6) Stretch the images to make a fat chick look skinny
7) No creativity
8) Never complete jobs on time
9) Use yellow and orange for every design

Most outsourcing companies are guilty of the same.

If anyone knows a REAL designer, let me know!
I have some work for them.

Thanks,

My take on it just looking at MANSION and what we can do: http://www.mansionproductions.com/designsite/index.html

1) Pixelated images

No

2) Same fucking colors

No

3) Cannot spell correctly

Sometimes

4) NO attention to detail

Wrong

5) Overpriced crap

Wrong

6) Stretch the images to make a fat chick look skinny

Dumb

7) No creativity

Wrong

8) Never complete jobs on time

Sometimes

9) Use yellow and orange for every design

Wrong

**

Anyways, go check out our portfolio.

tehHinjew · 03-09-2007, 06:18 PM

pwned!!
have you tried jon clark?
www.affordablesitedesign.com

webgeek · 03-09-2007, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.R.

FACTS TO SUPPORT MY CLAIM:

1) Pixelated images
2) Same fucking colors
3) Cannot spell correctly
4) NO attention to detail
5) Overpriced crap
6) Stretch the images to make a fat chick look skinny
7) No creativity
8) Never complete jobs on time
9) Use yellow and orange for every design

agree with most of it but there are exceptions:
check jennahaze.com's design

Bake · 03-09-2007, 07:35 PM

Fact most poeple wont pay for decent design's
Fact most designers know fuck all about marketing.
Fact if your good you dont need to take on other people's work

Barefootsies · 03-09-2007, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bake

Fact most poeple wont pay for decent design's
Fact most designers know fuck all about marketing.
Fact if your good you dont need to take on other people's work

harvey · 03-09-2007, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bake

Fact most poeple wont pay for decent design's

right. esp when you have people working for beans

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bake

Fact most designers know fuck all about marketing.

I don't know about others, I've a Marketing degree with specialization in Electronic Marketing. I think it proves on my design's conversions. However, when designing a site, no matter what your education dictates, you've to stick with what the client wants, no matter how crazy it sounds. I always mention the "correct" (being this a very discussable concept) option, but at the end, is what the client wants.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bake

Fact if your good you dont need to take on other people's work

Wow. Maybe you'd call Young & Rubicam (I worked there a life ago), Leo Burnett, Ogilvy & Mather and the likes and tell them to stop working for other people otherwise they suck

as for the fist post, I agree #3 applies to me sometimes, but that's because of my English, and I put that very clear everytime I work with a new client. None of the other applies. But I agree, those points are pretty common although I'd add BLUE to #9, which is the most commonly used color by most designers (Including JR's sites, the current and the previous one

)

theS2O · 03-10-2007, 11:59 AM

www.s2odesigns.com

let me know if my style works for you.

tnx.

Deej · 03-10-2007, 12:06 PM

Im no salvador, but here are some exmaples

http://www.nofupas.com/XXXP/ - dammit it has yellow in it
http://www.nofupas.com/XXXP/entry2 - totally original
http://www.nofupas.com/XXXP/entry3 - What do you have to say about this one?
http://www.nofupas.com/guru/pornstars/gal1 - decent design
http://www.nofupas.com/guru/slaphappy/gal1 - damn theres that yellow again
http://www.nofupas.com/guru/slaphappy/gal2 - Personally, I hate yellow to the fullest extent
http://www.nofupas.com/guru/heshe/gal1 - mmmmm trannies

DonkeyPunchProductions · 03-10-2007, 12:20 PM

yellow is mellow...

dropped9 · 03-10-2007, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

I don't know how busy Fletch is right now but he does good work. Same with Headless.

Thanks for the mention...

Let's mention the flip side of the coin...

What about the customers who want 1500 changes made to a $10 banner?

What about the customer who says, its no big deal, small project, not going to take too long. Only to find out in the long run that they want every under the sun done when you thought it was just going to be a button?

What about the customers who pay their deposit, but hold the rest of the funds after the project is completed as ransom for more "alterations" and "additions" to the project?

There's shit on both sides.

DonkeyPunchProductions · 03-10-2007, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless

Thanks for the mention...

Let's mention the flip side of the coin...

What about the customers who want 1500 changes made to a $10 banner?

What about the customer who says, its no big deal, small project, not going to take too long. Only to find out in the long run that they want every under the sun done when you thought it was just going to be a button?

What about the customers who pay their deposit, but hold the rest of the funds after the project is completed as ransom for more "alterations" and "additions" to the project?

There's shit on both sides.

kind of sound like DiNero talking to Pachino during the cafe scene in Heat. Great flick.

Barefootsies · 03-10-2007, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonkeyPunchProductions

kind of sound like DiNero talking to Pachino during the cafe scene in Heat. Great flick.

sextoyking · 03-10-2007, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.R.

( Most, not all )

This is a proven fact, just ask around and you will find out.

I ask for designers, not some idiot who learned how
to make a banner last week and made two free adult sites
5 years ago to promote Adult Check or Age Check.

FACTS TO SUPPORT MY CLAIM:

1) Pixelated images
2) Same fucking colors
3) Cannot spell correctly
4) NO attention to detail
5) Overpriced crap
6) Stretch the images to make a fat chick look skinny
7) No creativity
8) Never complete jobs on time
9) Use yellow and orange for every design

Most outsourcing companies are guilty of the same.

If anyone knows a REAL designer, let me know!
I have some work for them.

Thanks,

JR,

Long time no talk...

Let me know if we can help at all.

Thanks

Todd

Bake · 03-10-2007, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harvey

I don't know about others, I've a Marketing degree with specialization in Electronic Marketing. I think it proves on my design's conversions. However, when designing a site, no matter what your education dictates, you've to stick with what the client wants, no matter how crazy it sounds. I always mention the "correct" (being this a very discussable concept) option, but at the end, is what the client wants.
: )

Ive spoken to designers who have told me they dont submit galleries because they cant make money from them but then offer you to make them for $15.
Allways ask a designer to show you work that they made money from if they cant find one who can.

cj_purve · 03-10-2007, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

It's not designer's job to write the text, this is part of the marketing pitch of a website.

A good designer should be able to write creatively. That's why 'design and marketing' are spoken of together so often. To the dude in this or the other thread who said 'its not my job to be an english teacher'?!?!? wtf?!?!? If you are designing sites for an english speaking audience ... YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WRITE ENGLISH!!!

I have just read 2 threads of people bitching about how much designers suck, and several of the people in the thread are the same ones who don't want to pay more than $10 for a tgp template or $300 for a paysite tour.

For every shit designer out there, there's an even shittier client.

- Can't make up their mind what they want
- Don't pay bills when they say they've been paid
- Provide info AFTER design is complete
- Don't get info to you in time despite booking in your time
- Get you to do work then take it to a cheaper designer to replicate
- Expect work to be done urgently then take almost 4 weeks to pay

I wouldn't consider myself one of the best designers, but I certainly don't suck and I will walk away from any job where the client is any of the above.

I wrote this article a few months ago with some tips for working with designers.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=700443

I hope it helps and that you find someone good to work with soon ;-)

Barefootsies · 03-10-2007, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj_purve

A good designer should be able to write creatively. That's why 'design and marketing' are spoken of together so often. To the dude in this or the other thread who said 'its not my job to be an english teacher'?!?!? wtf?!?!? If you are designing sites for an english speaking audience ... YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WRITE ENGLISH!!!

I have just read 2 threads of people bitching about how much designers suck, and several of the people in the thread are the same ones who don't want to pay more than $10 for a tgp template or $300 for a paysite tour.

For every shit designer out there, there's an even shittier client.

- Can't make up their mind what they want
- Don't pay bills when they say they've been paid
- Provide info AFTER design is complete
- Don't get info to you in time despite booking in your time
- Get you to do work then take it to a cheaper designer to replicate
- Expect work to be done urgently then take almost 4 weeks to pay

I wouldn't consider myself one of the best designers, but I certainly don't suck and I will walk away from any job where the client is any of the above.

I wrote this article a few months ago with some tips for working with designers.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=700443

I hope it helps and that you find someone good to work with soon ;-)

Interesting read sire.

Tylo · 03-10-2007, 08:19 PM

I don't disagree that most of your claims are true with a good percentage of designers, but I get pretty sick of hearing people saying designers charge to much nothing special, no creativity yada yada yada.. You get what you pay for.. If it is so easy to do then why don't you do it your damn self.

Fact most of the good designers pay attention to whiners that cant ever seem to get what they want and stay clear.

TeenCat · 03-11-2007, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj_purve

A good designer should be able to write creatively. ..............

written well and i agree, sh*tty designers belongs to sh*tty companies. anyway maybe can be word sh*tty replaced by new. everyone have to start somewhere with something

Bake · 03-11-2007, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj_purve

For every shit designer out there, there's an even shittier client.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=700443

This is why I rarely do design work for people.

SxDx · 03-13-2007, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tylo

I don't disagree that most of your claims are true with a good percentage of designers, but I get pretty sick of hearing people saying designers charge to much nothing special, no creativity yada yada yada.. You get what you pay for.. If it is so easy to do then why don't you do it your damn self.

Fact most of the good designers pay attention to whiners that cant ever seem to get what they want and stay clear.

50 lushes

03-08-2007, 08:31 PM	#1
J.R. WantBoobs.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Calif & Washington Posts: 3,472	FACT! Most Adult Web Designers SUCK!!!! ( Most, not all ) This is a proven fact, just ask around and you will find out. I ask for designers, not some idiot who learned how to make a banner last week and made two free adult sites 5 years ago to promote Adult Check or Age Check. FACTS TO SUPPORT MY CLAIM: 1) Pixelated images 2) Same fucking colors 3) Cannot spell correctly 4) NO attention to detail 5) Overpriced crap 6) Stretch the images to make a fat chick look skinny 7) No creativity 8) Never complete jobs on time 9) Use yellow and orange for every design Most outsourcing companies are guilty of the same. If anyone knows a REAL designer, let me know! I have some work for them. Thanks,

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Nodtveidt Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Camuy, PR Posts: 573	I'm personally not the best visual designer when it comes to websites but my underlying code is always rock-solid and my English is exceptional. I don't claim to be the most color-coordinated web designer either, but thumbnailing is a special interest to me...so much so that I wrote my own thumbnailer application out of desperation. However, I do agree that a lot of the smaller adult websites were designed by someone with the design sense of an ox. It happens. __________________ ICQ: 11541913 Last edited by Nodtveidt; 03-08-2007 at 10:31 PM..

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spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	Hey.,, Headless just delivered the gallery templates he did for me & they're FUCKING FANTASTIC.. I'll be posting them up shortly as soon as I finish up thumbs 35-534-250 is his ICQ if you need something done.. Can't recall of top of my head his portfolio url, but should be easy to find.. just gfy search headless..

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Nodtveidt Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Camuy, PR Posts: 573	I must say though, I have to agree heavily with point 7, even for some of the larger sites. Then again, there's only so much creativity you can use... __________________ ICQ: 11541913

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CC Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,690	It's all about the conversions. WHO CARES about anything else?!?!?!?

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CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	I can think of several solid designers. Although I'm inclined to agree with you on "most" people out there, they are probably mostly made up of those I wouldn't go looking for or recommending anyway. It's not hard to find the real deal, you should be able to ask anyone who's been around a long time and they should be able to tell you who's good and reliable. As I said, I can think of several. I don't know how busy Fletch is right now but he does good work. Same with Headless. Plenty of others who do work for whatever companies they're with, but some of them might take on extra work from time to time I don't know. Sarah_Webinc has had quite a few compliments on her work thrown her way over the years. And what the hell, I myself have done quite a bit of freelance work over the past 7 or 8 years and have never had a complaint. I just don't put myself out there as a "designer" because I do too many other things to devote all my time to it. Go with the long time reputable. And I'm not bagging on newbs and outsourcers exactly, they deserve a chance too... but they have to PROVE themselves. You want repeat business in adult? Then do deliver the kind of service J.R. is asking for above, and deliver it to EVERY CUSTOMER YOU GET, period. Do that and it won't take long for word to get around that you're a go-to designer too. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

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Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	It's not designer's job to write the text, this is part of the marketing pitch of a website.

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	i like to think i do something a little better than the norm when i design a site for myself. does it help any in the long run? i don't know, some of the simplest piece of shit looking sites seem to do the best. i know with my next wave of RSS fed blogs i'm going to keep things pretty basic. my code isn't always the most solid, but as far as color and looks go, i can usually handle myself, and outsource the cleaning up of the code...

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mlove the guy Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 764	most of today's web designers suck. __________________ If you won't feel as good, I won't feel as cheap.

03-09-2007, 02:36 AM	#28
v4 media Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 2,934	The same can be said of alot of people wanting designs.. They want it in a day, they want it as cheap as possible, and you ask them what they want, they say you're a designer you should know... I've worked for the same company for more than 3 years, not exclusive but they give me so much work I don't need to look anywhere else. Although they are starting to take everything in house so I'll be looking for work again soon..hehe So reasonable designers are about, but most have been snapped up..

03-09-2007, 03:14 AM	#29
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03-09-2007, 06:10 PM	#30
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03-09-2007, 06:18 PM	#32
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03-09-2007, 07:35 PM	#34
Bake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Outback of bumfuck Aussie Posts: 5,279	Fact most poeple wont pay for decent design's Fact most designers know fuck all about marketing. Fact if your good you dont need to take on other people's work __________________ Buy great domains from drunken burned out old webmaster CHEAP bullseyeporn.com art-met.com and more. Learn how to make a easy extra $500 per week

03-10-2007, 11:59 AM	#37
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03-10-2007, 12:06 PM	#38
Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	Im no salvador, but here are some exmaples http://www.nofupas.com/XXXP/ - dammit it has yellow in it http://www.nofupas.com/XXXP/entry2 - totally original http://www.nofupas.com/XXXP/entry3 - What do you have to say about this one? http://www.nofupas.com/guru/pornstars/gal1 - decent design http://www.nofupas.com/guru/slaphappy/gal1 - damn theres that yellow again http://www.nofupas.com/guru/slaphappy/gal2 - Personally, I hate yellow to the fullest extent http://www.nofupas.com/guru/heshe/gal1 - mmmmm trannies __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880

03-10-2007, 12:20 PM	#39
DonkeyPunchProductions Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: back in la Posts: 188	yellow is mellow... __________________ donkey, donkey www.velvetdonkey.com

03-10-2007, 08:19 PM	#47
Tylo Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: South FL. Posts: 2,108	I don't disagree that most of your claims are true with a good percentage of designers, but I get pretty sick of hearing people saying designers charge to much nothing special, no creativity yada yada yada.. You get what you pay for.. If it is so easy to do then why don't you do it your damn self. Fact most of the good designers pay attention to whiners that cant ever seem to get what they want and stay clear. __________________ -ICQ# 119419008