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porno jew 03-06-2007 08:50 AM

stay with her sucker.

rowan 03-06-2007 09:01 AM

At the very least, if they say they want to move back in, tell them you need some time to think about it. If they're back in the house then a firm decision going that way is going to be much harder.

Jim_Gunn 03-06-2007 09:48 AM

Are you insane? Someone steals from you multipe times, disrespects you and jerks you around endlessly and you put up with that? Get the psycho out of your house and find another girlfriend, dude.

BlackCrayon 03-06-2007 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12027499)
This person has mild mental issues, it's not severe, but I think they have some kind of paranoid personality disorder, they went to work for around 7 months or so and then started imagining people at the work were sabotaging them at work and even eavesdropping the house :disgust

I think they are looking for a job now... I didn't mind them being that unstable to be honest, I just didn't know they would be dishonest. They have some kind of mental problems where they are like a child, they never lived on their own or supported themselves (26 years of age btw).

They have the mentality of a child, for example last time we got in a fight they emptied 3 HUGE bags of nuts (sunflower nuts and pine nuts) ALL over my carpet... I mean it was covered in nuts, I had to clean it up after they left, it was a mess. I thought that was weird. I don't think most sane adults would do something like that?

I don't mind the instability cause I can handle it, I knew going into it that the person was slightly off balance, I didn't know how off balance, but I did know though.

They aren't living with me at the moment. After the fight ( around 4 days ago) they went back to their family's house. They don't know that I know about the hard drives...

this is what happens when you meet pshyco fucks online who still live with her parents. run away, run far far away unless you enjoy the pain and being a mother to this douchebag. which it seems like you do because every time you make a post complaining, all you do is make excuses as to why it should be ok. which makes me wonder why do you even post in the first place? you just want validation that its ok because no one in their right might would put up with that even if they could 'handle it'. why would you want to if you don't have to? just because you've been with them for 2 years? thats retarded. start thinking with your mind instead of your emotions.

LiveDose 03-06-2007 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12027259)
A few weeks ago I ordered two hard drives, one for myself and one for someone I'm dating as a gift. I didn't even have time to open the box so I just left it there until one day I noticed it was gone. It's not very noticeable because my house is kind of messy and there's other boxes laying around so it kind of blended in... I asked the person that I was seeing if they took it, and they were like no of course not. And this person is a good actor, they were totally pretending to be worried that someone broke into my house etc

Until right now, I saw this person on Craigslist selling the hard drive I bought for them, I recognize their cell number. Well, I guess if I bought it for them, they can do whatever they want with it, but they lied to me, and not only that but they took my hard drive too!

I've been dating this person seriously for around 2 years or so.

Anwyays, we got in a big fight a few days ago and I noticed my Ipod was gone too! I have a feeling this person took it as well.

Now this person has financial problems and I actually was helping them out, help paying some of their bills etc. But I didn't know they would take stuff from my house and sell it.

Anyways, I would never call the cops because well I just wouldn't... Also, I have money and I'm not poor so it's not like took huge amounts of money from me.

I guess this person felt I wasn't helping them enough... Or since we got in a fight they know I'm not going to bail them out so they just decided to sell it, but the thing is when we were cool with each other, they didn't tell me that they took my stuff either...

Is it really a big deal? I can buy new hard drives easily, maybe it's not that big of a deal? Or is it the principle of it? I would get totally angry if a stranger stole from me but if it's something I care for I tend to overlook it, like it's not a big deal... perhaps they needed money or whatever...

Think of all the other things she's stolen from you that you won't even remember about or will be looking for in the future.

Cut that bitch loose.

bausch 03-06-2007 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 12028344)
this is what happens when you meet pshyco fucks online who still live with her parents. run away, run far far away unless you enjoy the pain and being a mother to this douchebag. which it seems like you do because every time you make a post complaining, all you do is make excuses as to why it should be ok. which makes me wonder why do you even post in the first place? you just want validation that its ok because no one in their right might would put up with that even if they could 'handle it'. why would you want to if you don't have to? just because you've been with them for 2 years? thats retarded. start thinking with your mind instead of your emotions.

I didn't meet this person on-line but through a friend. The thing is that I feel like no one's perfect and whomever I am going to be with will have something wrong with them. I chose this person because their sibling is my friend of over 10 years and told me the best quality about this person is that they are faithful.

I feel like I can chose between someone who doesn't mooch and steal from me but cheats on me, or someone who might mooch and have some flaws but remain faithful. I don't feel like there are good people left in the. world. If this doesn't work out I. won't have the willpower to even meet someone else. I will just give up and stay alone for the rest of my life until I die.

Also, this person is also my best friend. I don't have much friends and don't get along with my family and if I leave this person I'll basically be on my own all alone in the world.

jayeff 03-06-2007 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12027565)
Do you consider this a big deal or forgivable offense?

To me, the "offense" itself would be just a minor irritation: my problem would be what it represents, which is dishonesty. That's one of very few lines which if people cross, gets them shut out of my life.

Although the theft itself is the obvious dishonesty, the real dishonesty is that apparently the person is unable to be honest about their life. How can you know someone (and if you don't know them, what kind of relationship can you really have?) if they find it easier to steal from you than to talk about their need to steal? How little must they think of you, to be willing to put your "relationship" at risk for the price of a hard-drive?

If this had happened and either of you had been open about it and cleared the air, okay. Maybe. But from your story, this happened long enough ago for the other person to have time to think about what was done and admit to it. That hasn't happened, so stop kidding yourself. This person isn't a significant anything: just someone who sees you as another mug.

bausch 03-06-2007 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jayeff (Post 12031102)
To me, the "offense" itself would be just a minor irritation: my problem would be what it represents, which is dishonesty. That's one of very few lines which if people cross, gets them shut out of my life.

Although the theft itself is the obvious dishonesty, the real dishonesty is that apparently the person is unable to be honest about their life. How can you know someone (and if you don't know them, what kind of relationship can you really have?) if they find it easier to steal from you than to talk about their need to steal? How little must they think of you, to be willing to put your "relationship" at risk for the price of a hard-drive?

If this had happened and either of you had been open about it and cleared the air, okay. Maybe. But from your story, this happened long enough ago for the other person to have time to think about what was done and admit to it. That hasn't happened, so stop kidding yourself. This person isn't a significant anything: just someone who sees you as another mug.

They always like to steal whenever we get in a fight, they say that I caused it by instigating the fight or whatever because it's cause and effect... I caused the fight so the effect was them having the right to take it because I owe them something.

rowan 03-06-2007 06:18 PM

Move on. Having the "right" to steal something because you have a fight is ridiculous.

Fap 03-06-2007 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12027259)
Or is it the principle of it?

Exactly, dont let her get away with that shit!

beemk 03-06-2007 06:22 PM

damn... so you're like a sugar momma to this guy? where do i sign up?

Nodtveidt 03-06-2007 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12031006)
I didn't meet this person on-line but through a friend. The thing is that I feel like no one's perfect and whomever I am going to be with will have something wrong with them. I chose this person because their sibling is my friend of over 10 years and told me the best quality about this person is that they are faithful.

No one's perfect, this is true, but it sounds like you've gotten involved with a real nutjob here, from what you've said. This person needs to grow up before she ever gets involved in a serious relationship. And not to be mean-spirited, but always remember...dogs are faithful too.:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12031006)
I feel like I can chose between someone who doesn't mooch and steal from me but cheats on me, or someone who might mooch and have some flaws but remain faithful. I don't feel like there are good people left in the world. If this doesn't work out I won't have the willpower to even meet someone else. I will just give up and stay alone for the rest of my life until I die.

You yourself sound like you have some self-esteem issues. So, knowing this, I'd say that you too should be on your own for awhile, do some growing up and soul-searching, and get to know yourself better as a person before you attempt to involve yourself with anyone else. There are plenty of good people left in the world, they're just not easy to find because all the shitheads jump out at you and say "LOOK AT ME!". But trust me...they're out there. My wife's one of them, if I could clone her and send you a copy then I would. :D

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12031006)
Also, this person is also my best friend. I don't have much friends and don't get along with my family and if I leave this person I'll basically be on my own all alone in the world.

Personally, I disowned my family years ago and it was the best move I ever made. Furthermore, I needed that time alone...REALLY alone...to get my shit together. Sounds like you could use the same. A major part of self-esteem problems is justifying the downfalls of others who you are attached to...you exhibit this pretty clearly (as I did as well). So take it from someone who's been there and done that...terminate this relationship and be single, don't look for another until you do some personal growth of your own. In fact, don't look at all...it will come to you when the time is right. And above all, NEVER SETTLE FOR SECOND BEST. You're worth more than that.

That's all the time we have for today. Please stop by the receptionist's office on your way out and drop off the check.:1orglaugh

Sly 03-06-2007 06:25 PM

Will you be my sugar mama?

I'll let you pay my bills. I'll abuse you physically, mentally, and emotionally. I'll sleep on your couch and eat your food. I'll steal from you. I'll lie to you. I'll lie about stealing to you. I'll most likely cheat on you as well.

I have no redeemable qualities. I am a piece of shit.

You'll love me!

Nodtveidt 03-06-2007 06:28 PM

Probably a bad assumption since I don't know who you are, bausch, but if you're a female, then simply change the "she"s to "he"s in my original reply. Advice is the same regardless of gender. I just assumed you were male and the person in question was female because in my line of work, I deal mainly with males so it's second nature.

beemk 03-06-2007 06:28 PM

btw... post some pics

beemk 03-06-2007 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 12031194)
Will you be my sugar mama?

I'll let you pay my bills. I'll abuse you physically, mentally, and emotionally. I'll sleep on your couch and eat your food. I'll steal from you. I'll lie to you. I'll lie about stealing to you. I'll most likely cheat on you as well.

I have no redeemable qualities. I am a piece of shit.

You'll love me!

get your own sugar momma you cock block!

The Duck 03-06-2007 06:32 PM

Sounds like she is using you mate.

bausch 03-06-2007 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk (Post 12031181)
damn... so you're like a sugar momma to this guy? where do i sign up?

No, I'm not.

This is person is just "mental" and it's hard for them to take care of themselves. They can hold a job fine for awhile, but they usually get in conflicts/think their workplace is "out to get them" them etc... I think there is something wrong with the person mentally, their family made them see a psych before but the person always thinks they are right and that there's nothing wrong with them.

I don't really want to always help bail this person out but they always make me feel like I'm supposed to, they always say stuff like : "I thought I was your baby",when I try to say no and things like "Oh, so it's all about money right?"

I only help them pay small bills, it's not a lot. If they lived with me I guess I don't care if they don't pay rent rent because I would have to pay it anyways, whether I was alone or with this person, so it doesn't make a difference ...

bausch 03-06-2007 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 12031194)
Will you be my sugar mama?

I'll let you pay my bills. I'll abuse you physically, mentally, and emotionally. I'll sleep on your couch and eat your food. I'll steal from you. I'll lie to you. I'll lie about stealing to you. I'll most likely cheat on you as well.

I have no redeemable qualities. I am a piece of shit.

You'll love me!

I am not saying that I'm female. I am also not saying that I am male, because whatever I say will subconsciously affect people's answers... Just think of the question as something that could apply to any person, regardless of gender; whether the act of taking something which does not belong to you, and then lying about it, is a forgivable offense.

KingK7 03-06-2007 06:37 PM

You sound like a pretty smart person.

But if people steal from you, you should tell them to fuck off.

KingK7 03-06-2007 06:40 PM

Your friend sounds like he/she is at the beginning stages of paranoid schizofrenia. That gets ugly.

aimeesweet 03-06-2007 06:41 PM

Someone who truly loves and respects you would never steal from you... and if you have such a great relationship then they should have been able come to you to ask for your help...

bausch 03-06-2007 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nodtveidt (Post 12031183)
No one's perfect, this is true, but it sounds like you've gotten involved with a real nutjob here, from what you've said. This person needs to grow up before she ever gets involved in a serious relationship. And not to be mean-spirited, but always remember...dogs are faithful too.:1orglaugh


You yourself sound like you have some self-esteem issues. So, knowing this, I'd say that you too should be on your own for awhile, do some growing up and soul-searching, and get to know yourself better as a person before you attempt to involve yourself with anyone else. There are plenty of good people left in the world, they're just not easy to find because all the shitheads jump out at you and say "LOOK AT ME!". But trust me...they're out there. My wife's one of them, if I could clone her and send you a copy then I would. :D


Personally, I disowned my family years ago and it was the best move I ever made. Furthermore, I needed that time alone...REALLY alone...to get my shit together. Sounds like you could use the same. A major part of self-esteem problems is justifying the downfalls of others who you are attached to...you exhibit this pretty clearly (as I did as well). So take it from someone who's been there and done that...terminate this relationship and be single, don't look for another until you do some personal growth of your own. In fact, don't look at all...it will come to you when the time is right. And above all, NEVER SETTLE FOR SECOND BEST. You're worth more than that.

That's all the time we have for today. Please stop by the receptionist's office on your way out and drop off the check.:1orglaugh

Yea you are probably right... very good analysis...

Sly 03-06-2007 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12031246)
I am not saying that I'm female. I am also not saying that I am male, because whatever I say will subconsciously affect people's answers... Just think of the question as something that could apply to any person, regardless of gender; whether the act of taking something which does not belong to you, and then lying about it, is a forgivable offense.

I already know which you are, but will not clarify so others don't know.

The answer to your question is very simple, regardless of any gender... stealing is never acceptable. This shouldn't even be a question. You know the answer. After all of the things you have posted about this person, I have no idea why any sane person would stay with them.

beemk 03-06-2007 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12031246)
I am not saying that I'm female.

a tranny? they're all yours sly!

bausch 03-06-2007 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KingK7 (Post 12031259)
Your friend sounds like he/she is at the beginning stages of paranoid schizofrenia. That gets ugly.

Yes that is what I think they have. Their not schizo where they hear voices, but they interpret things differently than normal people. For example, if someone were to give a normal person a stare, the normal person would probably not care, but this person would interpret it as something menacing and start getting all paranoid...

They thought our old place might be wiretapped by their work and sometimes would write things on paper instead of just talking to me. I'm serious.

They act very "normal" though. This person talks normally most of the time, is pretty sociable, has friends, knows how to converse with people, is very presentable. If you were to meet this person you would not be able to tell that they were so crazy.

bausch 03-06-2007 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 12031269)
I already know which you are, but will not clarify so others don't know.

The answer to your question is very simple, regardless of any gender... stealing is never acceptable. This shouldn't even be a question. You know the answer. After all of the things you have posted about this person, I have no idea why any sane person would stay with them.

That's probably cause I'm not sane myself :1orglaugh

Jim_Gunn 03-06-2007 06:49 PM

If bausch is a female rather than a male that makes this situation doubly pathetic. With a guy I can at least figure, hey, maybe you make a great living and are putting up with this nonsense just for the pussy even if they are a thief and untrustworthy, dishonest person.

Now if you are female bausch then you are letting some douchebag thief steal your stuff, then you have serious self esteem issues, not unlike say, the porn stars and strippers that let loser, asshole boyfriends mooch off of them or pimp them out, beat them, and mistreat them. Women like that crave the abuse due to their own horrible upbringings and rationalize away the behavior because they think that "he loves them".

Either way grow a spine and get this horrible person out of your life.

bausch 03-06-2007 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 12031269)
I already know which you are, but will not clarify so others don't know.

The answer to your question is very simple, regardless of any gender... stealing is never acceptable. This shouldn't even be a question. You know the answer. After all of the things you have posted about this person, I have no idea why any sane person would stay with them.

Also, why would you consider it stealing per se? Perhaps I worded the topic of my thread wrong.

I DID buy one hard drive for this person and one for me. So perhaps this person just took THEIR hard drive and they just happened to take mine as well and not tell me about it? Is that really considered stealing?

Sly 03-06-2007 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12031288)
They thought our old place might be wiretapped by their work and sometimes would write things on paper instead of just talking to me. I'm serious.

They act very "normal" though. This person talks normally most of the time, is pretty sociable, has friends, knows how to converse with people, is very presentable. If you were to meet this person you would not be able to tell that they were so crazy.

Possible schizophrenia. I had a roommate who was the exact same way. When I met him he was taking medication and everything was fine. Then he stopped and all hell broke loose. I had the Secret Service visit me one day because he was writing strange letters to the Bush Twins.

People with schizophrenia are usually fine on medication. The problem is, once on medication they start thinking they're all better so they stop the medication and everything goes crazy til their next hospital stay. There are new products available where the person can get a shot once a month and they work great, the problem is again they usually stop getting them, and getting a judge to court order something like that is extremely difficult.

WarChild 03-06-2007 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12031246)
I am not saying that I'm female. I am also not saying that I am male, because whatever I say will subconsciously affect people's answers...

Sorry but that's what you get for being gay.

http://www.godhatesfags.com

bausch 03-06-2007 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 12031294)
If bausch is a female rather than a male that makes this situation doubly pathetic. With a guy I can at least figure, hey, maybe you make a great living and are putting up with this nonsense just for the pussy even if they are a thief and untrustworthy, dishonest person.

Now if you are female bausch then you are letting some douchebag thief steal your stuff, then you have serious self esteem issues, not unlike say, the porn stars and strippers that let loser, asshole boyfriends mooch off of them or pimp them out, beat them, and mistreat them. Women like that crave the abuse due to their own horrible upbringings and rationalize away the behavior because they think that "he loves them".

Either way grow a spine and get this horrible person out of your life.

I find that a bit sexist. Why would the situation be more pathetic IF I was woman, which I am not saying I am, but IF I was. How would you know that I don't make a great living and perhaps put up with this nonsense for companionship even if they are a thief and an untrustworthy, dishonest person, if I was a woman?

Do you automatically assume that women are weak and can't make a good living? Do you think only men can make a good living?

Their should be no standards, it should be 50/50. It's not the dark ages anymore.

Sly 03-06-2007 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12031297)
Also, why would you consider it stealing per se? Perhaps I worded the topic of my thread wrong.

I DID buy one hard drive for this person and one for me. So perhaps this person just took THEIR hard drive and they just happened to take mine as well and not tell me about it? Is that really considered stealing?

You said you bought it for but you didn't give it to him yet. Either way, they took yours, which you did not give. That IS stealing.

You stick up for this person way too much. Do they have a wonder cock/pussy? Seriously, why are you staying with this person? Do they make you feel good about yourself by helping them?

bausch 03-06-2007 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 12031303)
Possible schizophrenia. I had a roommate who was the exact same way. When I met him he was taking medication and everything was fine. Then he stopped and all hell broke loose. I had the Secret Service visit me one day because he was writing strange letters to the Bush Twins.

People with schizophrenia are usually fine on medication. The problem is, once on medication they start thinking they're all better so they stop the medication and everything goes crazy til their next hospital stay. There are new products available where the person can get a shot once a month and they work great, the problem is again they usually stop getting them, and getting a judge to court order something like that is extremely difficult.

Yes, yes, this is exactly it. This person is also planning to write a letter to the president/owner of the company he used to work for to explain them "everything", whatever "everything" is.

The person I'm seeing is also a bit of a hypochondriac, they like to take these strange herbs from this site called http://www.actionlove.com and claim they have terrible headaches when they don't take these pills.

KingK7 03-06-2007 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12031288)
Yes that is what I think they have. Their not schizo where they hear voices, but they interpret things differently than normal people. For example, if someone were to give a normal person a stare, the normal person would probably not care, but this person would interpret it as something menacing and start getting all paranoid...

They thought our old place might be wiretapped by their work and sometimes would write things on paper instead of just talking to me. I'm serious.

They act very "normal" though. This person talks normally most of the time, is pretty sociable, has friends, knows how to converse with people, is very presentable. If you were to meet this person you would not be able to tell that they were so crazy.

It gets worse... The TV presenter is wearing a red shirt that day, and that is a signal to your friend that he someone is out to get him/her, and shit like that. Be careful around people like that. Best thing to do, if it is not immediate family, is to just cut them off completely.

WarChild 03-06-2007 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12031336)
Yes, yes, this is exactly it. This person is also planning to write a letter to the president/owner of the company he used to work for to explain them "everything", whatever "everything" is.

The person I'm seeing is also a bit of a hypochondriac, they like to take these strange herbs from this site called http://www.actionlove.com and claim they have terrible headaches when they don't take these pills.

Yes, your boyfriend is not only fruity, but clearly loopy as well. You're fucking dating Tucan Sam.

bausch 03-06-2007 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 12031319)
You said you bought it for but you didn't give it to him yet. Either way, they took yours, which you did not give. That IS stealing.

You stick up for this person way too much. Do they have a wonder cock/pussy? Seriously, why are you staying with this person? Do they make you feel good about yourself by helping them?

The person already knew I was getting a hard drive for them, they actually asked me to get one for them since I was getting one for myself... I don't care about that though because I can write it off anyways...

WarChild 03-06-2007 07:03 PM

Tell your boyfriend that Warchild says if he stops being so queer, he'll be able to get a job and people will stop trying to bring him down. Straighten up and fly right!

bausch 03-06-2007 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 12031354)
Tell your boyfriend that Warchild says if he stops being so queer, he'll be able to get a job and people will stop trying to bring him down. Straighten up and fly right!

I even offered to help this person make money selling porn, if they listen to me I could guarantee they would make money. I showed them the basics already but they find it too stressful and haven't done one thing in 5 months since they walked out on their job. They just can't do it and find it too stressful, they would rather watch porn than sell it of course...

Plus also they couldn't start the work because they were too busy researching for weeks if not months about the "letter" they were going to write to the big man at their old workplace.

Nodtveidt 03-06-2007 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12031309)
I find that a bit sexist. Why would the situation be more pathetic IF I was woman, which I am not saying I am, but IF I was. How would you know that I don't make a great living and perhaps put up with this nonsense for companionship even if they are a thief and an untrustworthy, dishonest person, if I was a woman?

I think this pretty much gave your gender away, lol:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12031309)
Do you automatically assume that women are weak and can't make a good living? Do you think only men can make a good living?

Unfortunately, in this day and age, women still tend to make less in many jobs. It's not exactly a big secret. It's pathetic, but it's unfortunately true. It has nothing to do with women being weak, it has to do with sexist management. 40 years from now, when the current old management is dead, things will be different.

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 12031309)
Their should be no standards, it should be 50/50. It's not the dark ages anymore.

Double standards exist on both sides of the fence. Men usually don't make a fuss over double standards against men (and we have PLENTY to complain about) but I've yet to know a woman IRL that hasn't complained at one point in time about double standards against women. Us men are, still to this day, expected to just "toughen up" and take all the bullshit that's thrown at us, while women are allowed to complain all they want (a perfect example of a double standard against men). None of this will ever change until the sexist mindset of our fucked up culture is destroyed.


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