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Vittorio · 03-08-2007, 04:47 PM

THIS THREAD IS FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!

I have been doing business with Clips.com/ hotmovies.com / movie dollars.com collectively known as National A-1 for over 6 YEARS!!!!

They are the fucking BOMB and some of the nicest and most trustworthy people in the Biz! EVERYONE who knows this industry KNOWS THAT!

James is the SHIT! And so are all his cohorts. Christ, they SPONSOR almost every huge event the industry has. Yeah, they are going to fuck their reputation because some idiot gives them "questionable content".

DVD420, you are a FUCKTARD, because as you quoted herein "In this case yes I have model releases for some of my content and a website license for the rest." That is PURE BULLSHIT. You need model releases for ALL your content AND having a "website license" from some other producer you "licensed" the content from does NOT give you the rights to use it for PPV or VOD unless STATED in License. And normal a standard "website" license does NOT.

Clips.com nailed you easy and that's why you come cryin' here. It makes you look like an IDIOT though. But hey, there are PLENTY of idiots on this board who shoot themselves in the foot over and over. Anyone Remember SOBE?

Vittorio · 03-08-2007, 07:09 PM

Bump... I hate being the last person when something important was said.

dvd420 · 03-10-2007, 07:13 PM

I've made some good money already with clips4sale.com, they also have images4sale.com and videos4sale.com where you can sell your image sets and DVD's as well. The guy that runs it has answered every one of my emails the same day I sent them and within the hour in fact. I would say A+ for customer service. My rule of thumb is "Try and Die" or "Know and Earn" money that is. Clips4sale.com paid me already for last month. I got my money on time even before the 7th when checks are saposed to actually go out!!! Amazing site hands down.

RevSand · 03-10-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dvd420

I've made some good money already with clips4sale.com, they also have images4sale.com and videos4sale.com where you can sell your image sets and DVD's as well. The guy that runs it has answered every one of my emails the same day I sent them and within the hour in fact. I would say A+ for customer service. My rule of thumb is "Try and Die" or "Know and Earn" money that is. Clips4sale.com paid me already for last month. I got my money on time even before the 7th when checks are saposed to actually go out!!! Amazing site hands down.

Hit me up sometime.. Maybe we can exchange banner links on our stores..

Barefootsies · 03-10-2007, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RevSand

Hit me up sometime.. Maybe we can exchange banner links on our stores..

Niktamer · 03-10-2007, 07:57 PM

i had fun reading this .

junkiefred · 03-20-2007, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dvd420

40 % is all they pay, and they make you sign a huge 30 page contract which is made to nothing but take your money. You have to snail mail it in which sucks and was a big waste of time, but everyone deserves a try, I guess I'm the one that had to take it in the ass for the team. No worries tho because I'll never even look at their program again.

Seems like the folks you stole your content from are the ones taking it in the ass.

You certainly aren't on my team, and please stop associating yourself with legitimate hard working folks.

Go Fuck Yourself, you content stealing jizz bag.

Barefootsies · 03-20-2007, 06:53 AM

I'd like to see the traffic numbers between C4S and Clips.

I know that Neil does a lot to generate a lot of traffic to C4S. I'm not sure where Clips ranks by comparison.

darling2 · 03-20-2007, 07:05 AM

I think extorting money like this is nasty.

Kudos to clips.com to keep their content legal

junkiefred · 03-20-2007, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dvd420

In this case yes I have model releases for some of my content and a website license for the rest. They didn't want to accept what I was prepared to send them.

Seems to me there's a difference between owning the content, and having a website license. You can't resell content with a website license dipshit.

junkiefred · 03-20-2007, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dvd420

I've made some good money already with clips4sale.com, they also have images4sale.com and videos4sale.com where you can sell your image sets and DVD's as well. The guy that runs it has answered every one of my emails the same day I sent them and within the hour in fact. I would say A+ for customer service. My rule of thumb is "Try and Die" or "Know and Earn" money that is. Clips4sale.com paid me already for last month. I got my money on time even before the 7th when checks are saposed to actually go out!!! Amazing site hands down.

Doesn't say much for clips4sale in my book if they are selling stolen content.

I looked at your website, I wonder if NastyDollars and Evil Empire know what you are doing with their content, maybe I'll just drop them a line.

junkiefred · 03-20-2007, 08:21 AM

Damn, hearing shit like this really fucks up my day.

Some dick wad with stolen content bashing an upstanding, hardworking, legitimate company.

Hotmovies is huge, I see them everywhere, so I doubt this loser will have even the slightest impact on thier bottom line.

SMV, guys like you don't last long in this business. Crying over $183, it seems like you're already on your way out the door. Good riddance, on less cockroach I need to deal with.

webgeek · 03-20-2007, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dvd420

Their system starting messing up so I complained again asking why their upload system was messing up, the customer service was rotten to say the least so I removed all of my files from their system. They then shut off my account so no one could see my uploads and told me they were not paying me.

I wonder what's clips.com's side of the story on this.
no offence to dvd420 , I just wonder what were they thinking while doing this.

webgeek · 03-20-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by webgeek

I wonder what's clips.com's side of the story on this.
no offence to dvd420 , I just wonder what were they thinking while doing this.

I posted quick without reading the rest of the thread.

Barefootsies · 03-20-2007, 10:37 AM

Clips4Sale
http://alexa.com/data/details/traffi...clips4sale.com
60% sales --> content producer

Clips.com
http://alexa.com/data/details/traffi...?url=clips.com
40% sales --> content producer?

junkiefred · 03-21-2007, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Clips4Sale
60% sales --> content producer

Clips.com
40% sales --> content producer?

Barefootsies/dvd420 or whatever handle your using today, why don't you give it up?

From what I hear from everyone other than your self posts, is that clips/hotmovies are the shit. People are making good money with them, and your just pissed they caught you stealing.

Go home and play with your XBox, or did you finally sell it to pay your rent?

Barefootsies · 03-21-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by junkiefred

Barefootsies/dvd420 or whatever handle your using today, why don't you give it up?

From what I hear from everyone other than your self posts, is that clips/hotmovies are the shit. People are making good money with them, and your just pissed they caught you stealing.

Go home and play with your XBox, or did you finally sell it to pay your rent?

Go fuck yourself pal. I do not know who DVD is, or you.

I was simply asking a question in this thread on this clips company. I've not said anything good, or bad about them since I haven't a clue about them. I can speak to Neil, and C4S.

I shoot my own content, and have for years motherfucker. So you obviously don't have a fucking clue who you are talking to.

Now go pound it up your head back up your asshat.

As for your claims of "good money" if 40% of the take is good money, I'll stick with clips4sale.

HighSociety · 03-21-2007, 02:06 PM

I was emailed by a customer that bought custom videos from me, he told me he saw one of my videos on another clip site, that is how I found the site, well anyway I see my video being sold and doing very well, I email the site owner and get a fast reply, He said the person who listed the clip told him I let him list it LOL, I was like what the fuck are you talking about, the girls are exclusive and everything else, my clip stayed up there for days while I argued with him about my video being stolen. I said get a model release, get anything from him that says I let him do anything with it, the fucking video even had an old watermark on it from a domain I still own. I wasted a lot of my time to get that one video removed. Clips.com would go out of their way to protect me and my time. I am glad they look over the contect and make sure the correct person is listing it. Many big companies do not bother with the clips stores so it would be easy to slip a few in.
I make the same with both sites right now, yeah the clips4sale has more traffic and also has 300,000 clips on the site. Not sure on clips.com numbers but if they have 10 times less traffic and 15,000 clips you can do the numbers

Barefootsies · 03-21-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by made2ordervideos

I was emailed by a customer that bought custom videos from me, he told me he saw one of my videos on another clip site, that is how I found the site, well anyway I see my video being sold and doing very well, I email the site owner and get a fast reply, He said the person who listed the clip told him I let him list it LOL, I was like what the fuck are you talking about, the girls are exclusive and everything else, my clip stayed up there for days while I argued with him about my video being stolen. I said get a model release, get anything from him that says I let him do anything with it, the fucking video even had an old watermark on it from a domain I still own. I wasted a lot of my time to get that one video removed. Clips.com would go out of their way to protect me and my time. I am glad they look over the contect and make sure the correct person is listing it. Many big companies do not bother with the clips stores so it would be easy to slip a few in.
I make the same with both sites right now, yeah the clips4sale has more traffic and also has 300,000 clips on the site. Not sure on clips.com numbers but if they have 10 times less traffic and 15,000 clips you can do the numbers

It sounds like you do a lot of video sales!

stev0 · 03-21-2007, 02:33 PM

So, how do these sites work? You just upload video clips and they provide the traffic and pay you for sales?

Barefootsies · 03-21-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stev0

So, how do these sites work? You just upload video clips and they provide the traffic and pay you for sales?

-You upload clips that you produce.
-They have a lot of traffic that comes to the main site, so you get some there. But you would want to generate some as well.
-You get paid a percentage per sale.

danclips · 03-22-2007, 10:19 AM

First off, the percentages do not correlate 1:1 with earned income. It's all an issue of traffic.

While we are currently in start-up mode, our hopes are that by offering clips.com to our vast affiliate base, we will quickly provide significantly more targeted traffic to clips.com than our competitors could ever hope to obtain.

That being said, traffic takes time to build. Hotmovies.com receives more traffic than any of it's competitors. The majority of our providers make more on HotMovies, than they do with any other similar programs. It didn't start off that way, but we've dedicated ourselves to building high quality traffic for Hotmovies.com. We have the same commitment with Clips.com. We are currently in the process of building our Google and other Search Engine traffic base. This takes time and money, which we have committed to invest. Search Engine and affiliate traffic will make Clips.com the leader in targeted traffic. All of which means more targeted traffic to the provider.

The other issue with traffic is conversions, and this can only occur with highly targeted traffic. This is something we've excelled at with Hotmovies.com. We are using the same traffic management skills on Clips.com. I would rather see our providers get 1 highly targeted hit, than 1000 non-targeted hits. This means more sales in the end.

So if I was making 60% off 100 hits or 40% off 1000 hits, percentages have little to do with actual revenue.

Second, it's found money. If you make $500 on clips4sale, and only make an additional $50 on clips.com, that's still an additional $50 you wouldn't have had. Isolating your content to a single distribution channel only limits your revenue potential. We don't ask for exclusive rights to your content, because we believe you have a right to distribute your content in as many places as possible.

Personally, I would have my content in as many places as possible to maximize revenue.

Third, clips.com is run by a leader in the adult industry. That means you are partnering with a company that is trustworthy.

We do not sell off our sites for quick revenue. We provide real support from a dedicated support staff. We are a company of over 250 people, so we are not going anywhere anytime soon. This might not seem important, but in today's internet market, trust in companies is seriously lacking. I can't tell you how many times we've had companies we use, just drop off the map.

National A-1 Internet has been in business for over 10 years. Hotmovies.com has been running for 5 of those years. Clips.com is a natural progression for Hotmovies.com, and we feel it has a long prosperous life ahead of it.

We are dedicated to making Clips.com the #1 site for downloadable content. This dedication means better service and support for our content providers, it also means that we will do everything we can to make your content successful. We've started an aggressive advertising campaign for clips.com. We recently debuted Clips.com at the AVN Adult Entertainment Expo and Awards show. We have begun advertising in many magazines, and are working out details for a media campaign with Television and Radio outlets.

We have a team of programmers working on nothing but Clips.com. This means we are able to swiftly change with the times. We are already in the works on major upgrades to clips.com that will allow your content to be accessed by more people. We've taken suggestions from both our content providers, and our customers, and have started implementing those suggestions. Sales on clips.com have been steadily increasing since we've launched the site. We have faith that clips.com will be the premier adult download site on the internet.

danclips · 03-22-2007, 10:21 AM

also, our affiliate program can earn providers an additional 20% of all sales just by drawing traffic to the site ot their stores individually.

HouseHead · 03-22-2007, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dvd420

40 % is all they pay, and they make you sign a huge 30 page contract which is made to nothing but take your money. You have to snail mail it in which sucks and was a big waste of time, but everyone deserves a try, I guess I'm the one that had to take it in the ass for the team. No worries tho because I'll never even look at their program again.

Hah.. You pretty much made yourself shut the fuck up. Panze. Dont pick up the ball if you dont want to play man.

danclips · 03-22-2007, 10:40 AM

BTW, our contract is 4 pages, and while we do want a signed contract to keep on file, I do allow a copy to be faxed in while you send it.

cheers

junkiefred · 03-26-2007, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Now go pound it up your head back up your asshat.

Dude, that doesn't even make sense....

junkiefred · 03-26-2007, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

As for your claims of "good money" if 40% of the take is good money, I'll stick with clips4sale.

I couldn't care less if your so fucking short sighted that you would give up additional income. It's fairly obvious that intelligence isn't one of your strong points.

Barefootsies · 03-26-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by junkiefred

junkiefred
Registered User

junkiefred

Posts: 24

Thanks for your wisdom.

junkiefred · 03-28-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Thanks for your wisdom.

You're welcome, I usually charge for it, but since you're so much in need, I'll give it to you free.

Adultstoevsky · 06-04-2007, 11:56 AM

This whole thread is so juvenile.
Clips.com is obviously reputable. Hotmovies has been in business for years now and have never been questioned -as far as I know concerning payouts.
Clips4sale is a great model, but so is Clips.com. You'll make money on both.
DVD420 got caught scamming, and he's making impotent attempts to bemoan Clips.com out of spite.

I have stores on Clips.com and Clips4sale, and I am equally satisfied with both sites. Diversification is the name of the game.

fluffygrrl · 06-10-2007, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by floridadave

It appears that it would have been in your best interest to just pay out the money from the account to avoid the negitive comments that could lead to your site's demise.

postcount = 4 + breach of logic + taking sides = SOCKPUPPET ALERT.

bobbyjuly · 06-23-2007, 08:50 AM

find a girl to step on your dick with high heels or a guy to jerk you off, you would make more money, lol

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Originally Posted by Chris

im going to take video of my massive penis dancing and make moniez

03-08-2007, 04:47 PM	#51
Vittorio Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,974	THIS THREAD IS FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!! I have been doing business with Clips.com/ hotmovies.com / movie dollars.com collectively known as National A-1 for over 6 YEARS!!!! They are the fucking BOMB and some of the nicest and most trustworthy people in the Biz! EVERYONE who knows this industry KNOWS THAT! James is the SHIT! And so are all his cohorts. Christ, they SPONSOR almost every huge event the industry has. Yeah, they are going to fuck their reputation because some idiot gives them "questionable content". DVD420, you are a FUCKTARD, because as you quoted herein "In this case yes I have model releases for some of my content and a website license for the rest." That is PURE BULLSHIT. You need model releases for ALL your content AND having a "website license" from some other producer you "licensed" the content from does NOT give you the rights to use it for PPV or VOD unless STATED in License. And normal a standard "website" license does NOT. Clips.com nailed you easy and that's why you come cryin' here. It makes you look like an IDIOT though. But hey, there are PLENTY of idiots on this board who shoot themselves in the foot over and over. Anyone Remember SOBE? __________________ 28 GIGS of Hardcore Content for $69 !!

03-08-2007, 07:09 PM	#52
Vittorio Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,974	Bump... I hate being the last person when something important was said. __________________ 28 GIGS of Hardcore Content for $69 !!

03-10-2007, 07:57 PM	#56
Niktamer Lord of the Leads Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 3,021	i had fun reading this . __________________

03-20-2007, 06:53 AM	#58
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	I'd like to see the traffic numbers between C4S and Clips. I know that Neil does a lot to generate a lot of traffic to C4S. I'm not sure where Clips ranks by comparison. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

03-20-2007, 10:37 AM	#65
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Clips4Sale http://alexa.com/data/details/traffi...clips4sale.com 60% sales --> content producer Clips.com http://alexa.com/data/details/traffi...?url=clips.com 40% sales --> content producer? __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

03-10-2007, 07:13 PM	#53
dvd420 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 114	I've made some good money already with clips4sale.com, they also have images4sale.com and videos4sale.com where you can sell your image sets and DVD's as well. The guy that runs it has answered every one of my emails the same day I sent them and within the hour in fact. I would say A+ for customer service. My rule of thumb is "Try and Die" or "Know and Earn" money that is. Clips4sale.com paid me already for last month. I got my money on time even before the 7th when checks are saposed to actually go out!!! Amazing site hands down.

03-20-2007, 07:05 AM	#59
darling2 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 345	I think extorting money like this is nasty. Kudos to clips.com to keep their content legal

03-20-2007, 08:21 AM	#62
junkiefred Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 36	Damn, hearing shit like this really fucks up my day. Some dick wad with stolen content bashing an upstanding, hardworking, legitimate company. Hotmovies is huge, I see them everywhere, so I doubt this loser will have even the slightest impact on thier bottom line. SMV, guys like you don't last long in this business. Crying over $183, it seems like you're already on your way out the door. Good riddance, on less cockroach I need to deal with.

03-21-2007, 02:06 PM	#68
HighSociety Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,786	I was emailed by a customer that bought custom videos from me, he told me he saw one of my videos on another clip site, that is how I found the site, well anyway I see my video being sold and doing very well, I email the site owner and get a fast reply, He said the person who listed the clip told him I let him list it LOL, I was like what the fuck are you talking about, the girls are exclusive and everything else, my clip stayed up there for days while I argued with him about my video being stolen. I said get a model release, get anything from him that says I let him do anything with it, the fucking video even had an old watermark on it from a domain I still own. I wasted a lot of my time to get that one video removed. Clips.com would go out of their way to protect me and my time. I am glad they look over the contect and make sure the correct person is listing it. Many big companies do not bother with the clips stores so it would be easy to slip a few in. I make the same with both sites right now, yeah the clips4sale has more traffic and also has 300,000 clips on the site. Not sure on clips.com numbers but if they have 10 times less traffic and 15,000 clips you can do the numbers __________________ http://www.highsociety.com http://www.playgirl.com http://www.cheri.com Jonathan "JC" Maldini ICQ: 223 643

03-21-2007, 02:33 PM	#70
stev0 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 6,801	So, how do these sites work? You just upload video clips and they provide the traffic and pay you for sales?

03-22-2007, 10:19 AM	#72
danclips Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Philadelphia pa! Posts: 212	First off, the percentages do not correlate 1:1 with earned income. It's all an issue of traffic. While we are currently in start-up mode, our hopes are that by offering clips.com to our vast affiliate base, we will quickly provide significantly more targeted traffic to clips.com than our competitors could ever hope to obtain. That being said, traffic takes time to build. Hotmovies.com receives more traffic than any of it's competitors. The majority of our providers make more on HotMovies, than they do with any other similar programs. It didn't start off that way, but we've dedicated ourselves to building high quality traffic for Hotmovies.com. We have the same commitment with Clips.com. We are currently in the process of building our Google and other Search Engine traffic base. This takes time and money, which we have committed to invest. Search Engine and affiliate traffic will make Clips.com the leader in targeted traffic. All of which means more targeted traffic to the provider. The other issue with traffic is conversions, and this can only occur with highly targeted traffic. This is something we've excelled at with Hotmovies.com. We are using the same traffic management skills on Clips.com. I would rather see our providers get 1 highly targeted hit, than 1000 non-targeted hits. This means more sales in the end. So if I was making 60% off 100 hits or 40% off 1000 hits, percentages have little to do with actual revenue. Second, it's found money. If you make $500 on clips4sale, and only make an additional $50 on clips.com, that's still an additional $50 you wouldn't have had. Isolating your content to a single distribution channel only limits your revenue potential. We don't ask for exclusive rights to your content, because we believe you have a right to distribute your content in as many places as possible. Personally, I would have my content in as many places as possible to maximize revenue. Third, clips.com is run by a leader in the adult industry. That means you are partnering with a company that is trustworthy. We do not sell off our sites for quick revenue. We provide real support from a dedicated support staff. We are a company of over 250 people, so we are not going anywhere anytime soon. This might not seem important, but in today's internet market, trust in companies is seriously lacking. I can't tell you how many times we've had companies we use, just drop off the map. National A-1 Internet has been in business for over 10 years. Hotmovies.com has been running for 5 of those years. Clips.com is a natural progression for Hotmovies.com, and we feel it has a long prosperous life ahead of it. We are dedicated to making Clips.com the #1 site for downloadable content. This dedication means better service and support for our content providers, it also means that we will do everything we can to make your content successful. We've started an aggressive advertising campaign for clips.com. We recently debuted Clips.com at the AVN Adult Entertainment Expo and Awards show. We have begun advertising in many magazines, and are working out details for a media campaign with Television and Radio outlets. We have a team of programmers working on nothing but Clips.com. This means we are able to swiftly change with the times. We are already in the works on major upgrades to clips.com that will allow your content to be accessed by more people. We've taken suggestions from both our content providers, and our customers, and have started implementing those suggestions. Sales on clips.com have been steadily increasing since we've launched the site. We have faith that clips.com will be the premier adult download site on the internet. __________________ Hotmovies and Clips.com affiliate programs! icq: 241-169-479 [email protected] 800-500-2547

03-22-2007, 10:21 AM	#73
danclips Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Philadelphia pa! Posts: 212	also, our affiliate program can earn providers an additional 20% of all sales just by drawing traffic to the site ot their stores individually. __________________ Hotmovies and Clips.com affiliate programs! icq: 241-169-479 [email protected] 800-500-2547

03-22-2007, 10:40 AM	#75
danclips Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Philadelphia pa! Posts: 212	BTW, our contract is 4 pages, and while we do want a signed contract to keep on file, I do allow a copy to be faxed in while you send it. cheers __________________ Hotmovies and Clips.com affiliate programs! icq: 241-169-479 [email protected] 800-500-2547

06-04-2007, 11:56 AM	#80
Adultstoevsky Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 19	This whole thread is so juvenile. Clips.com is obviously reputable. Hotmovies has been in business for years now and have never been questioned -as far as I know concerning payouts. Clips4sale is a great model, but so is Clips.com. You'll make money on both. DVD420 got caught scamming, and he's making impotent attempts to bemoan Clips.com out of spite. I have stores on Clips.com and Clips4sale, and I am equally satisfied with both sites. Diversification is the name of the game.