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				12-year old boy dies from toothache.....
			 
			WASHINGTON - Twelve-year-old Deamonte Driver died of a toothache Sunday. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	A routine, $80 tooth extraction might have saved him. If his mother had been insured. If his family had not lost its Medicaid. If Medicaid dentists weren't so hard to find. If his mother hadn't been focused on getting a dentist for his brother, who had six rotted teeth. By the time Deamonte's own aching tooth got any attention, the bacteria from the abscess had spread to his brain, doctors said. After two operations and more than six weeks of hospital care, the Prince George's County boy died. Deamonte's death and the ultimate cost of his care, which could total more than $250,000, underscore an often-overlooked concern in the debate over universal health coverage: dental care. Some poor children have no dental coverage at all. Others travel three hours to find a dentist willing to take Medicaid patients and accept the incumbent paperwork. And some, including Deamonte's brother, get in for a tooth cleaning but have trouble securing an oral surgeon to fix deeper problems. In spite of efforts to change the system, fewer than one in three children in Maryland's Medicaid program received any dental service at all in 2005, the latest year for which figures are available from the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. ?They know there is a problem? The figures were worse elsewhere in the region. In the District, 29.3 percent got treatment, and in Virginia, 24.3 percent were treated, although all three jurisdictions say they have done a better job reaching children in recent years. "I certainly hope the state agencies responsible for making sure these children have dental care take note so that Deamonte didn't die in vain," said Laurie Norris, a lawyer for the Baltimore-based Public Justice Center who tried to help the Driver family. "They know there is a problem, and they have not devoted adequate resources to solving it." Maryland officials emphasize that the delivery of basic care has improved greatly since 1997, when the state instituted a managed care program, and in 1998, when legislation that provided more money and set standards for access to dental care for poor children was enacted. About 900 of the state's 5,500 dentists accept Medicaid patients, said Arthur Fridley, last year's president of the Maryland State Dental Association. Referring patients to specialists can be particularly difficult. Fewer than 16 percent of Maryland's Medicaid children received restorative services -- such as filling cavities -- in 2005, the most recent year for which figures are available. For families such as the Drivers, the systemic problems are compounded by personal obstacles: lack of transportation, bouts of homelessness, erratic telephone and mail service. The Driver children have never received routine dental attention, said their mother, Alyce Driver. The bakery, construction and home health-care jobs she has held have not provided insurance. The children's Medicaid coverage had temporarily lapsed at the time Deamonte was hospitalized. And even with Medicaid's promise of dental care, the problem, she said, was finding it. When Deamonte got sick, his mother had not realized that his tooth had been bothering him. Instead, she was focusing on his younger brother, 10-year-old DaShawn, who "complains about his teeth all the time," she said.  | 
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		 Thats gotta be a painfull way to die. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I've heard of that happening before..nothing worse than a toothache 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 hehe bad new here 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 ya... in a prior, uninsured life, I dealt with a toothache for a couple of weeks before going in to see a dentist... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			When I woke up in the middle of the night from the pain, and had to take 5 shots of grain alcohol just to make the throbbing settle down enough that I could pass out from the booze... I realized I should probably consult a professional. Doc said I coulda died had I waited a lot longer. Sad about the boy. As Shakespeare wrote: "For there was never yet philosopher That could endure the toothache patiently" 
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		 Stuff like that is why Americans should not complain so much about paying taxes for welfare etc... our taxes actually save a lot of lives.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Plus most of the kids that benefit grow up to get jobs and pay all the taxes back "with interest" over their life time. 
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		 Just think; what if all the money for the Iraq war had been put in an interest bearing trust in the largest banks in the world for ten years.  Then the interest after that could be used for free health care. (maybe) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Okay, I understand the problems of our health system ... but you have to put some responsibility on the parent for this one.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Maybe there is a history of dental problems in their family, but they should able to accomodate for this. No sugars, extra brushings, etc. No kid should have rotten teeth ... 
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		 No kid should go without mediacl of any sort, or school. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 wow, that is so sad.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			i remember a friend of mine from way back in the day didn't want to get an antibiotic filled because it was almost $100. after the pharmacist explained that the infection could go into his brain he changed his tune. 
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		 scary. i've been putting off some dental problems because i hate going to the dentist. never though an abscess could kill you. thats horrible what happened to the boy. obviously the mother didn't do much about making sure they at least brushed and flossed if the other has rotting teeth. though even here in canada where health care is covered, you still have to pay for your own dental, unless you are on welfare. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 If she just would have had her children practice good dental hygiene, this would have had a different ending.  Sad. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 so would a $1 toothbrush 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 So sad... in the 21. century? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 wow this is very sad story.. poor boy 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 More poor children! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 Right on the nose with that one, Kristin. 
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		 they forgot: "If his parent paid more attention to how he brushed his teeth" 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Poor kid. One of the most stupid ways to die. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 i had abscess few weeks ago , Dentist told me how deadly that shhit can be 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 we are spending billions on this iraq war.......... use that money for some healthcaree 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 how do u know if u have an abcess tooth? i got a chipped molar in the back the wisdom tooth grew into it and broke it, it hurt like hell before now i have no pain at all cause i think the exposed root healed up.  Anyway i put it off because im lazy and forgot about it really but reading this shit scares me. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 My son is allergic to dairy products like I was growing up and while I am sure I am more financially stable than this case, I still have to make the necessary accomodations to help him. He still has rashes from it, so I do understand it can't be completely fixed. But eight teeth? I'd really be seeking different methods after a few teeth went bad. 
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