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Old 02-25-2007, 07:17 AM   #51
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I hope not,

more moms without their childs, more childs without their moms.
More pain, tears and agony.

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Old 02-25-2007, 07:18 AM   #52
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Where did you get this fact ?

It's totally fucking wrong !

A total of 1,112,684 personnel are on active duty within the United States
plus


Total US Military: 2,685,713

Total US Active Duty Troops: 1,450,689
Total US Reserve Troops (2004): 1,259,000


A total of 1,112,684 personnel are on active duty within the United States
plus over 1.2 million Reserve and national Guard


Major troop Deployments:

Iraq 130,000

Germany 69,395
Japan (United States Forces Japan) 47,000
South Korea (United States Forces Korea) 32,744
Italy 12,258
United Kingdom 11,093
Not all of those are combat front line units chief. Take into account how many are on a single aircraft carrier. Do you think they are going to the front line? How about airplane mechanics? You think they will be marching through Tekret?



Sure. In total numbers, there are more available. However you are not considering how many are support, and administratives.
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shit, not many people on this board have faith with peace.
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shit, not many people on this board have faith with peace.
Perhaps they are are brainwashed Zionists
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Old 02-25-2007, 07:53 AM   #55
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I think much of the decision will rest with Iran though. They certainly have the power to make choices that could avoid a war, or bring about one.
I'm not at all sure you are right. Look at events of the last few years (and apart from being more overt, they are otherwise typical of US foreign policy under numerous presidents from both parties).

Before 9/11 we were already gearing up to invade Afghanistan. Within hours of 9/11 happening, we were blaming Osama Bin Laden. The Russians hadn't been able to kill or capture him when they occupied the country, but the inability of the Taliban to exile or capture him was apparently reason enough to invade a country which no-one even attempted to claim was in any shape or form a danger to us. The only extra spin we added to the emotions fostered by 9/11 was to point out that by our standards, the Taliban weren't very nice people.

Not only did we invade Afghanistan, we are still there years later despite not having found, let alone captured Bin Laden. Apart from the deaths of American troops and thousands of Afghanis, the most obvious consequence of that invasion is that the opium crop in Afghanistan has never been bigger. And we are stuck there because we displaced the only people - like them or not - who had the power to rule the country.

The American public got behind the invasion of Iraq for similarly emotional and equally spurious reasons. The cost to both sides has been even greater. And we are stuck there too, because even if there is no victory (except insofar as chaos was probably the intent from day one) if we stay, pulling out would be perceived as defeat.

So to Iran, guilty of some saber rattling: the Shia's in southern Iraq have not been totally docile and Hezbollah in Lebanon stirred up the Israelis last year. But in both instances, the activities have been considerably restrained, which strongly suggests that Iran is keeping a tight rein. And despite the occasional inflammatory rhetoric intended mainly for the folks at home, since the 1970's Iran has been quietly but consistently building political and economic ties with Europe. Finally there is their nuclear program, but as with Iraq, the reports which the US public generally do not hear about, are nowhere near as clear as - often even contradictory of - the stories coming out of the White House.

In other words, the US public is being set up once more to support a military adventure, by being fed a mix of half truths, exaggeration and lies. What Iran actually says or intends, is presumably known in Washington. But even if so, it is not going to be apparent to the likes of you and me, so long as such knowledge might get in the way of the administration's plans.
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Bush sux0r, its all about oil.
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Old 02-25-2007, 11:17 AM   #57
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Go to "war"? Probably not full scale war it wouldnt be much of a war Iran LOST its war to Iraq so the USA could probably defeat it "militarily" within days.
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Old 02-25-2007, 11:28 AM   #58
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Bush sux0r, its all about oil.
The clueless is here ....

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Iraq poised to hand control of oil fields to foreign firms


Baghdad under pressure from Britain to pass a law giving multinationals rights to the country's reserves

Heather Stewart, economics correspondent
Sunday February 25, 2007
The Observer

Baghdad is under pressure from Britain and the US to pass an oil law which would hand long-term control of Iraq's energy assets to foreign multinationals, according to campaigners.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/busin...020560,00.html
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Old 02-25-2007, 11:40 AM   #59
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What else would it be about?

This is probably the dumbest comment I've ever made, but if the slave trade involved arabs, the US would probably be waring in Africa and pussyfooting around the middle east.

Just a thought.
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What else would it be about?
For George W. Bush, it was sold to him as a vengeance for the humiliation that Saddam was doing to his dad ... George bought that easy, since he is not very smart ... The oil factor for him was a small factor.

For the Cheney, Rice, Wolfowitz and the other hawks, it was naturally oil ... They played Bush and he fell for it ...

One thing it was not about was the well being of the Iraqi population or the stabilization of the middle-east.
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Go to "war"? Probably not full scale war it wouldnt be much of a war Iran LOST its war to Iraq so the USA could probably defeat it "militarily" within days.
youd have thought the yanks didnt go to a "war" when they were against a bunch of viets with just spears and spikeforks, but that was called a war. irans miilatary power is nothing compared to usa. but problems arise. just like they did in vietnam

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Old 02-25-2007, 01:26 PM   #65
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90% of the USA's troops are deployed. So the answer's no.

Probably true.
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Are you a zionist? You smell like one. Move along stupid, this issue is above your intelligence.
Zionist shmionist. I'm about ridiculing mindless hate-mongering monkeys such as yourself until your nuts fester.

That's all.


zionist.... lol. Go shoot someone, idiot.
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:25 PM   #68
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No matter what anyone say here, do not trust whatever you read.
We all know that there are more zionist fuckers on this board then there are ants on this planet.

The only reason to bomb/attack Iran would be because of their nuclear program. So, are they not allowed? Why not? If they are not allowed how come Israel is allowed to have nuclear weapons?
Tell me the difference here.

Second, when did Iran start a war last time? Now, most of you fuckers on this board can barely speak your own language (english), so to find out the answer for this question, you have to google it.

Now, you all americans should see this and read the report.
But here is a peek.... Educate yourself.

We all know that the war on Iraq is a failure, you can just look at youtube and see yourself how many videos of US military doing shit to the locals in Iraq. This creates anger, this anger will be converted to what you call "terrorism" however, I wouldnt qualify it as terrorism more like revenge.

9/11 happend because of a reason, look back in your history and see what you have done in the middleeast.

This is basic logic, not to you all, uneducated muthafuckers, but if you go out and you hit someone in the face, what will they do to you? Ofcourse hit you back. Same goes in war.

A war on iran will probably never happen. Israel cant afford it.
But i hope this war will happend, because I hope Iran gives Israel what they deserve.
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someone has do attack the midget.

this "midget" happens to be smarter then 70% of you gfy dumbasses
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He just wants to get rid of spyware..why attack him?!
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With all the opposition I dont think it will be during Bushs period. Unless something extraordinary happens. U never know.
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yeh, i read in the paper a few days ago that one senior congress official said that if bush went to war then congress may stop him

dont know the validity of that, but reminds me of 24!
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bush isnt the only reason for going to war.. you saw the approval ratings about going to war? I mean Hillary DID vote to go in
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Fuck ratings... The King and his black emminence are at work ...:



US accused of drawing up plan to bomb Iran


An extensive article in the New Yorker magazine by the investigative journalist Seymour Hersh describes the contingency bombing plan as part of a general overhaul by the Bush administration of its policy towards Iran.

...

Elements of the tough new approach towards Tehran outlined by Hersh include:

· Clandestine operations against Iran and Syria, as well as the Hizbullah movement in Lebanon - even to the extent of bolstering Sunni extremist groups that are sympathetic to al-Qaida

· Sending US special forces into Iranian territory in pursuit of Iranian operatives, as well as to gather intelligence

· Secret operations are being funded by Saudi Arabia to avoid scrutiny by Congress. "There are many, many pots of black money, scattered in many places and used all over the world on a variety of missions," Hersh quotes a Pentagon consultant as saying.

As in the run-up to the Iraq war, the vice-president, Dick Cheney, has bypassed other administration officials to take charge of the aggressive new policy, working along with the deputy national security adviser, Elliott Abrams, and the former ambassador to Kabul and Baghdad, Zalmay Khalilzad.

Mr Cheney is also relying heavily on Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the Saudi national security adviser, who spent 22 years as ambassador to the US, and who has been offering his advice on foreign policy to Mr Bush since he first contemplated running for president.

....

Hersh, who made his reputation by breaking the story of the My Lai massacre during the Vietnam war, was among the first US journalists to report on the prison abuse scandal at Abu Ghraib. Although the most explosive material was supplied by unnamed sources, his status in US journalism made his latest report an immediate talking point on yesterday's TV chatshows.



Peace and democracy have such an aftertaste .....
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SOME of America?s most senior military commanders are prepared to resign if the White House orders a military strike against Iran, according to highly placed defence and intelligence sources.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1434540.ece
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Divide and Conquer - he is going for an East/West split.

His mistake is that China will take the lead role if that happens - or maybe not a mistake at all?

IMHO.
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Tehran, Iran, A man was publicly hanged in the town of Qazvin, west of the Iranian capital Tehran, a state-run daily reported on Tuesday.

The unnamed man was accused of running a brothel and producing pornographic videos along with his wife, the daily Iran Newspaper wrote.

The couple had both been sentenced to 10 years in prison, five years in exile, 80 lashes and execution for running the prostitution ring and being found in possession of alcohol, drugs, and illicit CDs.

The man?s sentence was carried out in front of the judge that sentenced him in one of the town?s squares on Monday morning, while his wife had been executed in February 2004, the report said

So sad and barbaric...

But doesnt the USA have death penalty as well?
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Israel´s future has already been written, even if you dont like it.
Besides, we are many people all over europe who believe the same thing as the president of Iran when it comes to the Israel issue.

The zionist fuckers didnt learn anything from ww2, its time to set records straight.
Wow you really play the racist moron well I am from Europe too so please don't make out that all Europeans are as stupid and bigoted as you !
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Wow you really play the racist moron well I am from Europe too so please don't make out that all Europeans are as stupid and bigoted as you !
you have a cock up your brain
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Thwe British Nave is already there and sending more warships to the area...its gonna happen

we never fucking learn
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you have a cock up your brain
WTF ?? you base this on what ? the fact you have a cock up his ass instead ?? I am not saying we should go to war with Iran but out of all the countries in the world who you wouldn't trust with Nukes Iran would be top of the list lets be honest within ten years of Iran having a bomb they'll either use it or pass it to someone who will !, or are you not capable of a reasoned argument with that cloud of hate over your eyes !
Why do all Muslim/Arab countries support each other regardless and then shout bloody murder when the UK supports the US on anything or any western country objects to being told that they should be annihilated !
I dont know why i am bothering to answer you anyway tard !
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Iran invest more and more money to get a nuclear ability and threatens with the destruction of Israel and an optional nuclear war against anyone that can have different views then they hold.
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US accused of drawing up plan to bomb Iran


An extensive article in the New Yorker magazine by the investigative journalist Seymour Hersh describes the contingency bombing plan as part of a general overhaul by the Bush administration of its policy towards Iran.

...

Elements of the tough new approach towards Tehran outlined by Hersh include:

· Clandestine operations against Iran and Syria, as well as the Hizbullah movement in Lebanon - even to the extent of bolstering Sunni extremist groups that are sympathetic to al-Qaida

· Sending US special forces into Iranian territory in pursuit of Iranian operatives, as well as to gather intelligence

· Secret operations are being funded by Saudi Arabia to avoid scrutiny by Congress. "There are many, many pots of black money, scattered in many places and used all over the world on a variety of missions," Hersh quotes a Pentagon consultant as saying.

As in the run-up to the Iraq war, the vice-president, Dick Cheney, has bypassed other administration officials to take charge of the aggressive new policy, working along with the deputy national security adviser, Elliott Abrams, and the former ambassador to Kabul and Baghdad, Zalmay Khalilzad.

Mr Cheney is also relying heavily on Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the Saudi national security adviser, who spent 22 years as ambassador to the US, and who has been offering his advice on foreign policy to Mr Bush since he first contemplated running for president.

....

Hersh, who made his reputation by breaking the story of the My Lai massacre during the Vietnam war, was among the first US journalists to report on the prison abuse scandal at Abu Ghraib. Although the most explosive material was supplied by unnamed sources, his status in US journalism made his latest report an immediate talking point on yesterday's TV chatshows.



Peace and democracy have such an aftertaste .....
its funny watching trash talk about peace.
Yes, our enemies are brilliant peace loving people and if we'd just make friends, we'd all get along.
luckily, trash like this never gets close to leadership
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its funny watching trash talk about peace.
Yes, our enemies are brilliant peace loving people and if we'd just make friends, we'd all get along.
luckily, trash like this never gets close to leadership
usual pointless reply ... next!
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Old 02-26-2007, 08:17 AM   #89
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You mean we aren't? Pffft!
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Old 02-26-2007, 08:29 AM   #90
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Im hoping so. Makes for good TV.
This is the best pro war argument yet LOL. Reality TV at its best.
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Old 02-26-2007, 08:30 AM   #91
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Israel´s future has already been written, even if you dont like it.
Besides, we are many people all over europe who believe the same thing as the president of Iran when it comes to the Israel issue.

The zionist fuckers didnt learn anything from ww2, its time to set records straight.
Shakula....I have a question for you, will you answer it?
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Shakula....I have a question for you, will you answer it?
you just asked it.
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5 year bump.
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