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Old 02-23-2007, 02:02 PM   #51
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Old 02-23-2007, 02:03 PM   #52
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Old 02-23-2007, 02:08 PM   #53
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there is no money in mainstream

Same with SEO-Just ask WG...

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Old 02-23-2007, 04:59 PM   #54
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mainstream is a joke compared to adult
Yeah, thats why I am converting 1:3 and cleared over $1,000 in profit on a single project before getting up today.
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Old 02-23-2007, 05:08 PM   #55
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so i'm keeping hush hush...
..by starting a thread on a very popular webmaster board to stroke my ego.
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Old 02-23-2007, 05:13 PM   #56
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Yeah, thats why I am converting 1:3 and cleared over $1,000 in profit on a single project before getting up today.
no shit man, my average ratio for adult overall since Jan 1st is 1:1027

my average overall ratio for mainstream since Jan 1st is 1:107

my average sale for adult since Jan 1st is $22

my average sale for mainstream since Jan 1st is $56

the one thing people need to realize about mainstream though, is that NO ONE is going to give up the goods to the really truly good sponsors....yeah, cj.com and shareasale.com are great and all, but there programs out there offering crazy money per click, and some that offer $60-100 per sale, but not only do you have to be able to sell ice to an eskimo, but you also have to have crazy patience.....neither of which the average GFY'er can do
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Old 02-23-2007, 05:48 PM   #57
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I'm not even in mainstream for the short term profits. Of you are at the very, very top, you'll have a company that can be sold for over a billion dollars. Low to middle range you are still looking at 7 or 8 figures, at the very minimum. How many adult companies can do that?

To be fair, its probably not accurate to divide things between "adult" and "mainstream" The fact is we are in a world with millions upon millions of niches, and adult is just one segment. No reason to limit yourself to it as an internet marketer.
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Old 02-23-2007, 06:01 PM   #58
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no shit man, my average ratio for adult overall since Jan 1st is 1:1027

my average overall ratio for mainstream since Jan 1st is 1:107

my average sale for adult since Jan 1st is $22

my average sale for mainstream since Jan 1st is $56

the one thing people need to realize about mainstream though, is that NO ONE is going to give up the goods to the really truly good sponsors....yeah, cj.com and shareasale.com are great and all, but there programs out there offering crazy money per click, and some that offer $60-100 per sale, but not only do you have to be able to sell ice to an eskimo, but you also have to have crazy patience.....neither of which the average GFY'er can do
My main business is mainstream as many here know im talking serious advertising including Nationwide Magazines, TV and Radio.

Yeah I agree on your conversion ratios but those 107 hits where 10 times harder to get then the 1027 adult hits and that was my point.
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:15 PM   #59
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Thanks for the advice. To clear something up, I'm not looking for a "magic bullet". I'm a geek who likes to spend 18 hours a day at my computer (that's not sarcasm, I really do), so I'm not opposed to working hard to get something to convert.

My problem is, I don't know how to get any of it to convert. Besides my adult stuff, I pretty much only run "sports entertainment" (yeah, wrestling...y'all can laugh now) sites, which cater to the 18-34 demographic. So, I loaded up the sidebar with links to stuff that I thought would appeal to that demo...movies, music, etc. CT is doing well...but no conversions. Any suggestions on what I should be doing differently or what other kind of site I should start? Thanks again!
Hit me up on ICQ and I will give you some info that will help you out.... yes even with the ECW/WWE/WWF/...WTF crowd.
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:26 PM   #60
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My main business is mainstream as many here know im talking serious advertising including Nationwide Magazines, TV and Radio.

Yeah I agree on your conversion ratios but those 107 hits where 10 times harder to get then the 1027 adult hits and that was my point.
then, in all seriousness, I must be just born for this, because I find mainstream traffic just as easy to get as adult, possibly easier

I never tried with magazines, tv and radio though...all though when my wife was bigger she was featured in tons of magazines and on lots of radio shows, and the traffic bump from those was good and all, but not worth the time and energy that went into setting it all up, pure internet marketing always proved to have the best return
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:28 PM   #61
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I find mainstream traffic just as easy to get as adult, possibly easier
I doubt anyone else can agree with this, try playing lotto man you are def lucky
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:44 PM   #62
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..by starting a thread on a very popular webmaster board to stroke my ego.
haha i don't give a shit what anyone thinks. I'm just excited about it so blow me
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:53 PM   #64
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I never tried with magazines, tv and radio though...all though when my wife was bigger she was featured in tons of magazines and on lots of radio shows, and the traffic bump from those was good and all, but not worth the time and energy that went into setting it all up, pure internet marketing always proved to have the best return
I was going to make a response addressing this, but opted out.

Of course, you are correct.
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:14 PM   #65
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haha i don't give a shit what anyone thinks. I'm just excited about it so blow me
excited and stupid.
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:33 PM   #66
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:20 PM   #67
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mainstream is huge if you really hit your niche. I did kickass one month from some mainstream blogs and then 2 months later it was dead. If you really concentrate on one niche and hit it hard you can easily do 10 grand a month in that one niche. Combine with your adult you can make some good coiin
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excited and stupid.
suck me dry princess. Did i say what I was doing? Nope. So how is that stupid?
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Did i say what I was doing? Nope. So how is that stupid?
If I have to show you the irony in your post I think I've illustrated my point about stupidity.

Hush hush is not starting a thread on a webmaster board and you acting stupid is more than whether or not you released details about your income.

You fail to see that if you treated this a little more like a business than a popularity contest you'd be a lot better off financially.

Do you see any big webmaster posting about what he made yesterday? How about affiliate program owners?

You can quip back with insults like 'suck me dry' or 'blow me sweetheart' but it doesn't change the fact that unless you're talking numbers to JV with someone or to sell your business you're inviting competition and research into your niche.

So...

Congratulations on your $300, don't blow it all in one place.
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If I have to show you the irony in your post I think I've illustrated my point about stupidity.

Hush hush is not starting a thread on a webmaster board and you acting stupid is more than whether or not you released details about your income.

You fail to see that if you treated this a little more like a business than a popularity contest you'd be a lot better off financially.

Do you see any big webmaster posting about what he made yesterday? How about affiliate program owners?

You can quip back with insults like 'suck me dry' or 'blow me sweetheart' but it doesn't change the fact that unless you're talking numbers to JV with someone or to sell your business you're inviting competition and research into your niche.

So...

Congratulations on your $300, don't blow it all in one place.
i said I was staying "hush hush" on what it is. honestly I don't give a damn if there's competition. 99/100 people won't put the effort forth to make a damn difference to me.

Oh, and I DO treat this like a business. Please show me where I outlined HOW I made that 300 and even more each day since then. Oh....that's right because I haven't. This is my FIRST venture into ANYTHING mainstream and I was excited about it.

Congrats to you for being a pompous asshole
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i said I was staying "hush hush" on what it is. honestly I don't give a damn if there's competition. 99/100 people won't put the effort forth to make a damn difference to me.

Oh, and I DO treat this like a business. Please show me where I outlined HOW I made that 300 and even more each day since then. Oh....that's right because I haven't. This is my FIRST venture into ANYTHING mainstream and I was excited about it.

Congrats to you for being a pompous asshole
hell, and not only that, majority of everything in this thread can be found in ANY "make money online" tutorial on the net...HELL, RICH JERK has more than this thread and it can be found pretty easily

the idea is to find EXACTLY what works for YOU and never share it, the idea in itself isn't some hush hush shit, the specifics is what you don't reveal, and no one serious about mainstream has mentioned ANY mainstream program that makes me big bucks
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