Letter sent to Stigamot (Icelantic Rape center resp. for canceling snowgathering) - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Shoehorn! · 02-23-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

great letter, I wouldnt expect a phone call. Groups like that dont do well with rational thought, its easier to make shit up.

Exactly. It is a real shame that this group had to resort to lies, if anything it will only discredit their future work and make most Icelandic people resent them. Not a very smart move.

Brad Mitchell · 02-23-2007, 07:40 PM

Great letter Scott. I am sure someone in the media will pick up the post since they're all reading GFY now. If not, that's okay too. It's enough to know that you did the right thing - and we all know it too

The only concern that I have is that it's so much more fun when the board "sheep" are in the dark and think that you're mean, insensitive and unintelligent! If you keep being yourself they're going to start loving to love you instead of loving to hate you. LOL

Cheers,

Brad

JayDeeZee · 02-23-2007, 07:56 PM

Scott, I truely commend you on how well you've represented yourself and the adult online community as a whole.

Thank you

Jerrott

SleazyDream · 02-23-2007, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

"...in an effort of corporation,"

sad they never contacted me ever - just accused

SleazyDream · 02-23-2007, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

Exactly. It is a real shame that this group had to resort to lies, if anything it will only discredit their future work and make most Icelandic people resent them. Not a very smart move.

that's probally the part that saddens me the most about this. Victems of sexual abuse need a place to go and when the leaders of a home that does something that's soo good for society like this one does goes and commits acts of terrorism against people they have never even met or spoken to it can hurt the good work they are trying to do that needs to be done.

Pleasurepays · 02-23-2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

Exactly. It is a real shame that this group had to resort to lies, if anything it will only discredit their future work and make most Icelandic people resent them. Not a very smart move.

i doubt thats true at all. they don't care about facts. thats like saying "PETA is violent and full of crap, so they won't have any members" - people believe in things that make them feel better about themselves and their existence... fact, reality and reason often play no role in those beliefs.

In Iceland, some angry women who have been abused and traumatized, found an external object to direct their anger and place blame for their pain... it was convienently an outside cause, a foreign cause and something far away that they will never have to directly confront with reasoned and rational debate... and they won. in their minds, they feel a small victory in what will no doubt, be a lifelong battle with their own demons. there is great irony in the idea of some sort of success on their part. tomorrow, they will still be hurting, troubled and in pain. tomorrow, the porn industry will remain totally unchanged.

PS - was a great letter by the way.

Tom_PM · 02-23-2007, 09:54 PM

Very good letter.
The media lumps legal adult entertainment and illegal stuff all of the time, but even thats no excuse for them to not do their homework.

SleazyDream · 02-23-2007, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

i doubt thats true at all. they don't care about facts. thats like saying "PETA is violent and full of crap, so they won't have any members" - people believe in things that make them feel better about themselves and their existence... fact, reality and reason often play no role in those beliefs.

In Iceland, some angry women who have been abused and traumatized, found an external object to direct their anger and place blame for their pain... it was convienently an outside cause, a foreign cause and something far away that they will never have to directly confront with reasoned and rational debate... and they won. in their minds, they feel a small victory in what will no doubt, be a lifelong battle with their own demons. there is great irony in the idea of some sort of success on their part. tomorrow, they will still be hurting, troubled and in pain. tomorrow, the porn industry will remain totally unchanged.

PS - was a great letter by the way.

tomorrow there will be more porn than there would have been before cause i and the other people slated to go are now not going on a vacation..

Huggles · 02-23-2007, 09:59 PM

Nice letter Sleazy.

Pleasurepays · 02-23-2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

tomorrow there will be more porn than there would have been before cause i and the other people slated to go are now not going on a vacation..

not only that, but they probably single handedly cause www.stigamottgp.com www.stigamotbabes.com and www.stigamotmilfs.com to come into existence

SleazyDream · 02-23-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

not only that, but they probably single handedly cause www.stigamottgp.com www.stigamotbabes.com and www.stigamotmilfs.com to come into existence

oh my god - and DUKE needs to produce it

WarChild · 02-23-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

sad they never contacted me ever - just accused

No, I don't expect they will contact you. It's much harder to be irrational if bhoth sides of an issure are represented.

KrisKross · 02-24-2007, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Looks to me like he did . . I did not notice any errors.

Well written, Scott.

Err... the use of "effect" vs "affect". "Manor" vs "manner". Lack of commas. That's just to name a few.

Irrelevant, though. It's a great letter. Hopefully, it'll have some sort of an effect.

TheSenator · 02-24-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

not only that, but they probably single handedly cause www.stigamottgp.com www.stigamotbabes.com and www.stigamotmilfs.com to come into existence

Nice and say they bring it on to themselves.

HizAzPhun · 02-24-2007, 11:46 AM

Edited version of the letter below, in case you decide to send it to the media. There's still a few blips and run-ons, but I'd say it's 90% correct now ;)

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

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Congratulations.

You seem to have won and can celebrate a victory.

Being lied about and socially ostracized like I have been recently in the Icelandic media by your organization, I now have an idea how it must feel to be powerless against irrational, uncontrollable anger.

In effect, you basically denied a Canadian with Icelandic roots and no criminal record the ability to visit the land of his forefathers for a vacation. Something I have looked forward to for many years.

Did you affect the operations of the online adult industry at all? No. You interrupted the vacation time of some website owners who run legal operations. You had the opportunity to meet and discuss (with many of the highest traffic websites in the world) your concerns, but instead you chose to pass. You avoided the opportunity to effect what may have been positive change in the industry, and opted instead for terrorist tactics and lies, and had us cancel our vacation time so we could stay home and work more.

I honestly would have liked to have met with representatives of your organization to see if there was anything we could do in our operations to be more sensitive to the needs of groups like yours. I currently work with several groups and adhere to principles and practices that we helped to establish for many businesses in the online adult community. ASACP.com is one of them, please check out this organization's website.

I honestly feel your behavior in this matter only sets up an environment of hate, revenge and mistrust. I hope that you can overcome your anger someday, and I feel that if you ever wish to break the chains of oppression it will be done with agreements, understanding and rational negotiation.

Knowing the horrors many of you have gone though, I can forgive you for this overzealous behavior, and hope that in your hearts you have the courage to one day sit down and talk with myself, or other representatives of the online adult community, to discuss viewpoints and hopefully incorporate change and understanding for both of us in a more positive direction.

If you ever come to Canada I would be happy to extend an invitation to representatives of your organization to lunch or dinner and discuss this further in a civil manner. On me.

I wish only the best for the people in your recovery centers and feel for the horrors they had to experience.

Please accept my apology for the stress this vacation gathering has caused your organization.

Someday I hope we can move towards change. As a suggestion, maybe in the future you can contact organizations like snowagthering or myself directly with your concerns before going to the media, in an effort of cooperation, goodwill and trust.

I pray you have the courage to read this and the integrity to respond.
Somehow I doubt it . Please prove me wrong.

Scott Hjorleifson
SleazyDream.com
ph 204 294 8883

Shoehorn! · 02-24-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

oh my god - and DUKE needs to produce it

SleazyDream · 02-24-2007, 02:47 PM

we should all throw in and have Duke produce it and send it to them as a thank you!

High Plains Drifter · 02-24-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Looks to me like he did . . I did not notice any errors.

haha don't you work with press releases? There's at least a dozen errors.

SleazyDream · 02-25-2007, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by High Plains Drifter

haha don't you work with press releases? There's at least a dozen errors.

reporters need to do something when handed a story without any work

emjay · 02-25-2007, 03:23 AM

I believe this fiasco represents an interesting PR opportunity for our industry as a whole.

This story has all the incredients of an interesting story in mainsteam media in other (non-nordic) countries - a nice little sex drama combo that I am sure the tabloids would pick up on.

This would highlight PETA's ignorance on porn, Radisson's hyprocracy, and highlight that through ACACP the industry is working to help combat child porn.

We could also throw in that far from exploiting women, porn actually celebrates women in all their wonderful shapes and sizes - unlike mainstrean, which does not.

A properly structured PR could actually turn this whole thing to our advantage, not to mention some nice publicity for Freeones and Sleazy

Major (Tom) · 02-25-2007, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

oh my god - and DUKE needs to produce it

LOL thumbs up

Duke

HAPPYPEEKERS · 02-25-2007, 11:46 AM

Very nice letter!

SleazyDream · 02-25-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by emjay

I believe this fiasco represents an interesting PR opportunity for our industry as a whole.

This story has all the incredients of an interesting story in mainsteam media in other (non-nordic) countries - a nice little sex drama combo that I am sure the tabloids would pick up on.

This would highlight PETA's ignorance on porn, Radisson's hyprocracy, and highlight that through ACACP the industry is working to help combat child porn.

We could also throw in that far from exploiting women, porn actually celebrates women in all their wonderful shapes and sizes - unlike mainstrean, which does not.

A properly structured PR could actually turn this whole thing to our advantage, not to mention some nice publicity for Freeones and Sleazy

we've both been trying to do this

Jman · 02-25-2007, 08:20 PM

Great letter Scott. Any response from anyone yet?

SleazyDream · 02-25-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JMan

Great letter Scott. Any response from anyone yet?

not a word. that would take courage, these are terrorists. they don't reply

Gunni · 02-28-2007, 02:09 AM

very good letter mate!
I'm in Iceland in August, come over then and I'll show you around!

Gunni · 02-28-2007, 02:11 AM

very good letter mate!
I'm in Iceland in August, come over then and I'll show you around!

02-23-2007, 07:40 PM	#52
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	Great letter Scott. I am sure someone in the media will pick up the post since they're all reading GFY now. If not, that's okay too. It's enough to know that you did the right thing - and we all know it too The only concern that I have is that it's so much more fun when the board "sheep" are in the dark and think that you're mean, insensitive and unintelligent! If you keep being yourself they're going to start loving to love you instead of loving to hate you. LOL Cheers, Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

02-23-2007, 07:56 PM	#53
JayDeeZee Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,595	Scott, I truely commend you on how well you've represented yourself and the adult online community as a whole. Thank you Jerrott __________________

02-23-2007, 09:54 PM	#57
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Very good letter. The media lumps legal adult entertainment and illegal stuff all of the time, but even thats no excuse for them to not do their homework. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

02-23-2007, 09:59 PM	#59
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02-24-2007, 02:47 PM	#67
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	we should all throw in and have Duke produce it and send it to them as a thank you! __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

02-25-2007, 03:23 AM	#70
emjay Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Back in Blighty Posts: 4,277	I believe this fiasco represents an interesting PR opportunity for our industry as a whole. This story has all the incredients of an interesting story in mainsteam media in other (non-nordic) countries - a nice little sex drama combo that I am sure the tabloids would pick up on. This would highlight PETA's ignorance on porn, Radisson's hyprocracy, and highlight that through ACACP the industry is working to help combat child porn. We could also throw in that far from exploiting women, porn actually celebrates women in all their wonderful shapes and sizes - unlike mainstrean, which does not. A properly structured PR could actually turn this whole thing to our advantage, not to mention some nice publicity for Freeones and Sleazy __________________ I Run 500+ WhatsApp Groups. The Zuck Owns Me www.emjayconsultancy.com

02-25-2007, 11:46 AM	#72
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02-25-2007, 08:20 PM	#74
Jman Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canuckstikan Posts: 22,767	Great letter Scott. Any response from anyone yet? __________________ email: [email protected] Best AI Affiliate Program We also do WL at $0.00 upfront costs FantasyXXX.AI Teams: jean.francois.laverdiere TG: @jman1216

02-28-2007, 02:09 AM	#76
Gunni Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Barcelona Posts: 2,385	very good letter mate! I'm in Iceland in August, come over then and I'll show you around!

02-28-2007, 02:11 AM	#77
Gunni Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Barcelona Posts: 2,385	very good letter mate! I'm in Iceland in August, come over then and I'll show you around!