Trading links with penalized sites?? - GoFuckYourself.com

jennym · 02-01-2007, 12:34 PM

Ok, this has been bugging me for a few days, so lets see what everyone thinks. I think linking to a lot of penalized sites is bad for my page (Google wise). Do you agree?

Now, the hard thing is deciding who I think is penalized by Google. Here are the 2 scenarios that are currently bugging me. Please keep in mind that I do not care about PR for PR sake when trading. I only mention PR in the following examples as ways to possibly determine a penalty.

If a site/page has been online for over a year, shouldn't it have some PR? I am coming across 2 things in checking over my link trades that bother me.

1) Site/page online for over a year (some online for 3 or 4 years)...no PR, but site is cached. Do you think this is indicative of a penalty? Would you trade with a site like this? Would you delete a trade with a site like this?

2) Site/page online for over a year....no PR, and NO CACHE of the page. Do you think this is indicative of a penalty? Would you trade with a site like this? Would you delete a trade with a site like this?

Thoughts please....

baddog · 02-01-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jennym

Ok, this has been bugging me for a few days, so lets see what everyone thinks. I think linking to a lot of penalized sites is bad for my page (Google wise). Do you agree?

No doubt, thought that was a given. I mean, haven't they come out and said as much?

jennym · 02-01-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

No doubt, thought that was a given. I mean, haven't they come out and said as much?

That was a "baseline" question. It helps to evaluate the answers of other posters.

jennym · 02-01-2007, 01:27 PM

bump
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jennym · 02-01-2007, 02:50 PM

Guess I should have included Juicy, drama, herpes, and shaving in my thread title.

woj · 02-01-2007, 03:08 PM

I wouldn't even bother trading with PR0 sites, unless the site is of really high quality and relevant to your niche...

King of Queens · 02-01-2007, 03:10 PM

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2) Site/page online for over a year....no PR, and NO CACHE of the page. Do you think this is indicative of a penalty? Would you trade with a site like this? Would you delete a trade with a site like this?

If it's not a good type in domain name then to
me it would look like they arent even trying.

If their not trying then what benifit do you get
for linking to them?

And if you already have pr why not trade with
other sites with pr and and up to parr?

jennym · 02-01-2007, 03:26 PM

I traded links with these sites a long time ago. Guess I am looking for a couple of things here.
Do other people think that those things are indicative of a penalty?
Do people think I would be justified in pulling link trades to those types of sites?

RawAlex · 02-01-2007, 03:31 PM

Domains can exist for a long time with no real PR. Without incoming links, etc, pages are just dead ends. Google doesn't give PR to dead ends.

Dirty Dane · 02-01-2007, 03:35 PM

Its not the PR that brings you money. Surfers do.

jennym · 02-01-2007, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

Domains can exist for a long time with no real PR. Without incoming links, etc, pages are just dead ends. Google doesn't give PR to dead ends.

If someone works a site just a little, it should get some PR. But, if they are not working the site, why should I honor the trade?

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Its not the PR that brings you money. Surfers do.

ummmm.....did you read the thread????????

Dirty Dane · 02-01-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jennym

ummmm.....did you read the thread????????

Yes I did, and what use is PR if trade-traffic converts better?

jennym · 02-01-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Yes I did, and what use is PR if trade-traffic converts better?

If you read the thread, you would have noticed I said I didn't give a shit about PR. I said the ONLY reason I brought it up was to possibly use it to determine a penalty in Google. Sorry if you don't understand.

The Sultan Of Smut · 02-01-2007, 06:42 PM

A site can be online for over a year and not cached if there's no inbound links so penalty or not linking to it isn't going to help ya.

Splum · 02-01-2007, 06:46 PM

Most reciprocal links these days are either a penalty or of no SE value.
Traffic is a different story obviously.

Dirty Dane · 02-01-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jennym

If you read the thread, you would have noticed I said I didn't give a shit about PR. I said the ONLY reason I brought it up was to possibly use it to determine a penalty in Google. Sorry if you don't understand.

Well, I am confused now about reading the thread, because now you say you didn't give a shit about PR, and in your first post above, you say you DO give a shit about PR. Make up your mind

Anyway, if you care about penalty, then you care about PR too. Its connected

jennym · 02-01-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut

A site can be online for over a year and not cached if there's no inbound links so penalty or not linking to it isn't going to help ya.

These are sites that the owner has "supposedly" worked. It has inbound links.

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Originally Posted by Splum

Most reciprocal links these days are either a penalty or of no SE value.
Traffic is a different story obviously.

That wasn't my question. I have already stated that I have had these trades for a very long time.....some for years. This is not a question of whether or not those trades are valuable at this point.

jennym · 02-01-2007, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Well, I am confused now about reading the thread, because now you say you didn't give a shit about PR, and in your first post above, you say you DO give a shit about PR. Make up your mind

Sorry you are confused so easily. In my first post, I said I DO NOT give a shit about PR.

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Anyway, if you care about penalty, then you care about PR too. Its connected

No, it is not. Not for the purpose I have mentioned.

Splum · 02-01-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jennym

That wasn't my question. I have already stated that I have had these trades for a very long time.....some for years. This is not a question of whether or not those trades are valuable at this point.

In todays search engine climate all of those "trades" should be deleted. That was my point.

Dirty Dane · 02-01-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jennym

Sorry you are confused so easily. In my first post, I said I DO NOT give a shit about PR.

You say you do not care about PR (= do give a shit about PR)

But, to answer you question about trade/no-trade; As I said, its the surfers that brings you money, not Google. A PR0 site can still send traffic that would exceed your "penalty" from Google. Higher PR only means you get crawled more often, but in the end its who (not how many) visiting your site and what you put on it that matters in your bank account.
And btw, if its not even listed on Google, well it must have some traffic from somewhere, otherwise trading is pointless.

02-01-2007, 12:34 PM	#1
jennym Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: the south Posts: 1,622	Trading links with penalized sites?? Ok, this has been bugging me for a few days, so lets see what everyone thinks. I think linking to a lot of penalized sites is bad for my page (Google wise). Do you agree? Now, the hard thing is deciding who I think is penalized by Google. Here are the 2 scenarios that are currently bugging me. Please keep in mind that I do not care about PR for PR sake when trading. I only mention PR in the following examples as ways to possibly determine a penalty. If a site/page has been online for over a year, shouldn't it have some PR? I am coming across 2 things in checking over my link trades that bother me. 1) Site/page online for over a year (some online for 3 or 4 years)...no PR, but site is cached. Do you think this is indicative of a penalty? Would you trade with a site like this? Would you delete a trade with a site like this? 2) Site/page online for over a year....no PR, and NO CACHE of the page. Do you think this is indicative of a penalty? Would you trade with a site like this? Would you delete a trade with a site like this? Thoughts please....

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jennym Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: the south Posts: 1,622	bump 5678

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jennym Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: the south Posts: 1,622	Guess I should have included Juicy, drama, herpes, and shaving in my thread title.

02-01-2007, 03:26 PM	#8
jennym Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: the south Posts: 1,622	I traded links with these sites a long time ago. Guess I am looking for a couple of things here. Do other people think that those things are indicative of a penalty? Do people think I would be justified in pulling link trades to those types of sites?

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RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Domains can exist for a long time with no real PR. Without incoming links, etc, pages are just dead ends. Google doesn't give PR to dead ends.

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Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	Its not the PR that brings you money. Surfers do.

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The Sultan Of Smut Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 4,325	A site can be online for over a year and not cached if there's no inbound links so penalty or not linking to it isn't going to help ya.

02-01-2007, 06:46 PM	#15
Splum Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 6,195	Most reciprocal links these days are either a penalty or of no SE value. Traffic is a different story obviously.