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  • jennym
    Confirmed User
    • May 2003
    • 1622

    #1

    Trading links with penalized sites??

    Ok, this has been bugging me for a few days, so lets see what everyone thinks. I think linking to a lot of penalized sites is bad for my page (Google wise). Do you agree?

    Now, the hard thing is deciding who I think is penalized by Google. Here are the 2 scenarios that are currently bugging me. Please keep in mind that I do not care about PR for PR sake when trading. I only mention PR in the following examples as ways to possibly determine a penalty.

    If a site/page has been online for over a year, shouldn't it have some PR? I am coming across 2 things in checking over my link trades that bother me.

    1) Site/page online for over a year (some online for 3 or 4 years)...no PR, but site is cached. Do you think this is indicative of a penalty? Would you trade with a site like this? Would you delete a trade with a site like this?

    2) Site/page online for over a year....no PR, and NO CACHE of the page. Do you think this is indicative of a penalty? Would you trade with a site like this? Would you delete a trade with a site like this?

    Thoughts please....
  • baddog
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 107089

    #2
    Originally posted by jennym
    Ok, this has been bugging me for a few days, so lets see what everyone thinks. I think linking to a lot of penalized sites is bad for my page (Google wise). Do you agree?
    No doubt, thought that was a given. I mean, haven't they come out and said as much?

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    • jennym
      Confirmed User
      • May 2003
      • 1622

      #3
      Originally posted by baddog
      No doubt, thought that was a given. I mean, haven't they come out and said as much?
      That was a "baseline" question. It helps to evaluate the answers of other posters.

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      • jennym
        Confirmed User
        • May 2003
        • 1622

        #4
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        • jennym
          Confirmed User
          • May 2003
          • 1622

          #5

          Guess I should have included Juicy, drama, herpes, and shaving in my thread title.

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          • woj
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            • Jul 2002
            • 47880

            #6
            I wouldn't even bother trading with PR0 sites, unless the site is of really high quality and relevant to your niche...
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            • King of Queens
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2006
              • 1288

              #7
              2) Site/page online for over a year....no PR, and NO CACHE of the page. Do you think this is indicative of a penalty? Would you trade with a site like this? Would you delete a trade with a site like this?
              If it's not a good type in domain name then to
              me it would look like they arent even trying.

              If their not trying then what benifit do you get
              for linking to them?

              And if you already have pr why not trade with
              other sites with pr and and up to parr?
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              • jennym
                Confirmed User
                • May 2003
                • 1622

                #8
                I traded links with these sites a long time ago. Guess I am looking for a couple of things here.
                Do other people think that those things are indicative of a penalty?
                Do people think I would be justified in pulling link trades to those types of sites?

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                • RawAlex
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 9465

                  #9
                  Domains can exist for a long time with no real PR. Without incoming links, etc, pages are just dead ends. Google doesn't give PR to dead ends.

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                  • Dirty Dane
                    Sick Fuck
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 9491

                    #10
                    Its not the PR that brings you money. Surfers do.

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                    • jennym
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2003
                      • 1622

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RawAlex
                      Domains can exist for a long time with no real PR. Without incoming links, etc, pages are just dead ends. Google doesn't give PR to dead ends.
                      If someone works a site just a little, it should get some PR. But, if they are not working the site, why should I honor the trade?

                      Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                      Its not the PR that brings you money. Surfers do.
                      ummmm.....did you read the thread????????

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                      • Dirty Dane
                        Sick Fuck
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 9491

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jennym
                        ummmm.....did you read the thread????????
                        Yes I did, and what use is PR if trade-traffic converts better?

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                        • jennym
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2003
                          • 1622

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                          Yes I did, and what use is PR if trade-traffic converts better?
                          If you read the thread, you would have noticed I said I didn't give a shit about PR. I said the ONLY reason I brought it up was to possibly use it to determine a penalty in Google. Sorry if you don't understand.

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                          • The Sultan Of Smut
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 4325

                            #14
                            A site can be online for over a year and not cached if there's no inbound links so penalty or not linking to it isn't going to help ya.

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                            • Splum
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2003
                              • 6195

                              #15
                              Most reciprocal links these days are either a penalty or of no SE value.
                              Traffic is a different story obviously.

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                              • Dirty Dane
                                Sick Fuck
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 9491

                                #16
                                Originally posted by jennym
                                If you read the thread, you would have noticed I said I didn't give a shit about PR. I said the ONLY reason I brought it up was to possibly use it to determine a penalty in Google. Sorry if you don't understand.
                                Well, I am confused now about reading the thread, because now you say you didn't give a shit about PR, and in your first post above, you say you DO give a shit about PR. Make up your mind

                                Anyway, if you care about penalty, then you care about PR too. Its connected

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                                • jennym
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 1622

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by The Sultan Of Smut
                                  A site can be online for over a year and not cached if there's no inbound links so penalty or not linking to it isn't going to help ya.
                                  These are sites that the owner has "supposedly" worked. It has inbound links.


                                  Originally posted by Splum
                                  Most reciprocal links these days are either a penalty or of no SE value.
                                  Traffic is a different story obviously.
                                  That wasn't my question. I have already stated that I have had these trades for a very long time.....some for years. This is not a question of whether or not those trades are valuable at this point.

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                                  • jennym
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2003
                                    • 1622

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                    Well, I am confused now about reading the thread, because now you say you didn't give a shit about PR, and in your first post above, you say you DO give a shit about PR. Make up your mind
                                    Sorry you are confused so easily. In my first post, I said I DO NOT give a shit about PR.

                                    Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                    Anyway, if you care about penalty, then you care about PR too. Its connected
                                    No, it is not. Not for the purpose I have mentioned.

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                                    • Splum
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 6195

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jennym
                                      That wasn't my question. I have already stated that I have had these trades for a very long time.....some for years. This is not a question of whether or not those trades are valuable at this point.
                                      In todays search engine climate all of those "trades" should be deleted. That was my point.

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                                      • Dirty Dane
                                        Sick Fuck
                                        • Feb 2004
                                        • 9491

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jennym
                                        Sorry you are confused so easily. In my first post, I said I DO NOT give a shit about PR.
                                        You say you do not care about PR (= do give a shit about PR)

                                        But, to answer you question about trade/no-trade; As I said, its the surfers that brings you money, not Google. A PR0 site can still send traffic that would exceed your "penalty" from Google. Higher PR only means you get crawled more often, but in the end its who (not how many) visiting your site and what you put on it that matters in your bank account.
                                        And btw, if its not even listed on Google, well it must have some traffic from somewhere, otherwise trading is pointless.
                                        Last edited by Dirty Dane; 02-01-2007, 05:31 PM.

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