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jennym 02-01-2007 12:34 PM

Trading links with penalized sites??
 
Ok, this has been bugging me for a few days, so lets see what everyone thinks. I think linking to a lot of penalized sites is bad for my page (Google wise). Do you agree?

Now, the hard thing is deciding who I think is penalized by Google. Here are the 2 scenarios that are currently bugging me. Please keep in mind that I do not care about PR for PR sake when trading. I only mention PR in the following examples as ways to possibly determine a penalty.

If a site/page has been online for over a year, shouldn't it have some PR? I am coming across 2 things in checking over my link trades that bother me.

1) Site/page online for over a year (some online for 3 or 4 years)...no PR, but site is cached. Do you think this is indicative of a penalty? Would you trade with a site like this? Would you delete a trade with a site like this?

2) Site/page online for over a year....no PR, and NO CACHE of the page. Do you think this is indicative of a penalty? Would you trade with a site like this? Would you delete a trade with a site like this?

Thoughts please....

baddog 02-01-2007 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennym (Post 11834373)
Ok, this has been bugging me for a few days, so lets see what everyone thinks. I think linking to a lot of penalized sites is bad for my page (Google wise). Do you agree?

No doubt, thought that was a given. I mean, haven't they come out and said as much?

jennym 02-01-2007 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11834423)
No doubt, thought that was a given. I mean, haven't they come out and said as much?

That was a "baseline" question. It helps to evaluate the answers of other posters.:winkwink:

jennym 02-01-2007 01:27 PM

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jennym 02-01-2007 02:50 PM

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Guess I should have included Juicy, drama, herpes, and shaving in my thread title.

woj 02-01-2007 03:08 PM

I wouldn't even bother trading with PR0 sites, unless the site is of really high quality and relevant to your niche...

King of Queens 02-01-2007 03:10 PM

Quote:

2) Site/page online for over a year....no PR, and NO CACHE of the page. Do you think this is indicative of a penalty? Would you trade with a site like this? Would you delete a trade with a site like this?
If it's not a good type in domain name then to
me it would look like they arent even trying.

If their not trying then what benifit do you get
for linking to them?

And if you already have pr why not trade with
other sites with pr and and up to parr?

jennym 02-01-2007 03:26 PM

I traded links with these sites a long time ago. Guess I am looking for a couple of things here.
Do other people think that those things are indicative of a penalty?
Do people think I would be justified in pulling link trades to those types of sites?

RawAlex 02-01-2007 03:31 PM

Domains can exist for a long time with no real PR. Without incoming links, etc, pages are just dead ends. Google doesn't give PR to dead ends.

Dirty Dane 02-01-2007 03:35 PM

Its not the PR that brings you money. Surfers do.

jennym 02-01-2007 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11835877)
Domains can exist for a long time with no real PR. Without incoming links, etc, pages are just dead ends. Google doesn't give PR to dead ends.

If someone works a site just a little, it should get some PR. But, if they are not working the site, why should I honor the trade?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 11835904)
Its not the PR that brings you money. Surfers do.

ummmm.....did you read the thread????????:error

Dirty Dane 02-01-2007 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jennym (Post 11836418)
ummmm.....did you read the thread????????:error

Yes I did, and what use is PR if trade-traffic converts better? :error

jennym 02-01-2007 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 11836640)
Yes I did, and what use is PR if trade-traffic converts better? :error

If you read the thread, you would have noticed I said I didn't give a shit about PR. I said the ONLY reason I brought it up was to possibly use it to determine a penalty in Google. Sorry if you don't understand.

The Sultan Of Smut 02-01-2007 06:42 PM

A site can be online for over a year and not cached if there's no inbound links so penalty or not linking to it isn't going to help ya.

Splum 02-01-2007 06:46 PM

Most reciprocal links these days are either a penalty or of no SE value.
Traffic is a different story obviously.

Dirty Dane 02-01-2007 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennym (Post 11836857)
If you read the thread, you would have noticed I said I didn't give a shit about PR. I said the ONLY reason I brought it up was to possibly use it to determine a penalty in Google. Sorry if you don't understand.

Well, I am confused now about reading the thread, because now you say you didn't give a shit about PR, and in your first post above, you say you DO give a shit about PR. Make up your mind :1orglaugh

Anyway, if you care about penalty, then you care about PR too. Its connected :)

jennym 02-01-2007 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut (Post 11837076)
A site can be online for over a year and not cached if there's no inbound links so penalty or not linking to it isn't going to help ya.

These are sites that the owner has "supposedly" worked. It has inbound links.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 11837111)
Most reciprocal links these days are either a penalty or of no SE value.
Traffic is a different story obviously.

That wasn't my question. I have already stated that I have had these trades for a very long time.....some for years. This is not a question of whether or not those trades are valuable at this point.

jennym 02-01-2007 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 11837254)
Well, I am confused now about reading the thread, because now you say you didn't give a shit about PR, and in your first post above, you say you DO give a shit about PR. Make up your mind :1orglaugh
:)

Sorry you are confused so easily. In my first post, I said I DO NOT give a shit about PR.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 11837254)
Anyway, if you care about penalty, then you care about PR too. Its connected :)

No, it is not. Not for the purpose I have mentioned.

Splum 02-01-2007 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennym (Post 11837259)
That wasn't my question. I have already stated that I have had these trades for a very long time.....some for years. This is not a question of whether or not those trades are valuable at this point.

In todays search engine climate all of those "trades" should be deleted. That was my point.

Dirty Dane 02-01-2007 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennym (Post 11837265)
Sorry you are confused so easily. In my first post, I said I DO NOT give a shit about PR.

You say you do not care about PR (= do give a shit about PR) :winkwink:

But, to answer you question about trade/no-trade; As I said, its the surfers that brings you money, not Google. A PR0 site can still send traffic that would exceed your "penalty" from Google. Higher PR only means you get crawled more often, but in the end its who (not how many) visiting your site and what you put on it that matters in your bank account.
And btw, if its not even listed on Google, well it must have some traffic from somewhere, otherwise trading is pointless. :)


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