"Im majoring in fine arts and naturopathic medicine"

Tell her that she'll be back in porn unless she changes her major NOW !!!!

Tell her that someone called Donny is going to show the pictures to all her family, friends and co-workers and giver her his address.

Like others, I'd give it back if you can cover your expense.

I would just ignore her... thats the biggest piece of junk e-mail I ever started to read

It sounds like the content should be the least of her worries...

You have to make up your own mind, you have met the person and can only judge from your perspective.

With that being said, I have myself a few times agreed with a model not to release their content. Why ? It just bad karma.. what difference does it do to me that i spent a couple hundred $$ or a thousand..and a day shooting. Money is easily made in this business so let it go if you feel bad for her. think of it as a tax deductible charity donation..and move on to the next model who is happy to be in the business..

i'd say sell it back

R

She has given you two clues in that email why you should let her buy the rights at your cost.

1. She used to deal in guns. I assume she knows where you live and work.

2. She is nuts. She will find a lawyer and tell that same story. She walks into court and tells that story in front of a jury and you are screwed.

the classic "i had a fucked up life, im getting straight now and i made a mistake" letter.

do what puts your conscience at ease.

boo fucking hoo.

christ thats a long as email.

personally, i would feel kind of bad, but then have a few drinks and say fuck it. she signed the contract with you and is now trying to back out, thats to bad. I would tell her to give you $XX,XXX for the content back and to annual the agreement because that is your estimated revenue from the project.

its called TO BAD!

obligatory 51 whining models

I wasn't even about to read all that shit...

I have a handjob video up right now that I shot with a GOOD friend of mine...She would BEG me to do pictures or video and I turned her down because I know her kids and they're getting older now so I didn't want them to see her face online..

After constant begging, I told her I wouldn't shoot any pictures because I knew she would regret it later but I would shoot the video where her face wasn't shown....I'm a good friend of hers so I did everything in my power to protect her interests and not fuck her over.

TWO DAYS after the shoot was over, she calls me and tells me that she doesn't want the video up yet and that I "didn't care about her" by putting the video up anyway...

What I believe happened is that she wanted the money immediately and thought that since she was my friend, she could weasle out of her video being put online...She was wrong...

Now it's been up a couple of weeks and she hasn't had any problems so everything is cool now...But I will NEVER conduct business with her again.

Man a bunch of cold people here,no wonder people say we are scumbags. Tell her to give you back your money and you will take the pictures down,chances are that will make her go away. To go to war over one girl is not good business and we arent in the most loved business in the world.
A piece of advice for Sticky maybe you dont know but you arent in the most porn friendly state in the union, you piss some girl off and you could have shit storm like you wouldnt believe.

Thank you someone with common sense :thumbsup

holy crap. that girl was definitely in her own little world when writing that message. maybe she has a life in writing boring novels???
:rasta

give her the photos back man, I know its the industry but sometimes things are still fucked up

9 out of 10 of these sluts who get naked for money have the SAME FUCKING SOB STORIES.

You think girls end up doing this from being over-educated and over-intelligent?

A story about how she constantly gets herself into stupid situations would get no pitty from me.


DO YOU KNOW THE AMOUNT OF MODELS WITH COMPLETELY FUCKED UP PERSONAL LIVES??? The only differnece with this one is that she put it in an email. Otherwise, maybe you should start contacting all your past talent and ask how their lives are, and take down their content too.

Umm, how did he help destroy her life?
Think of it this way, she steps in front of a speeding train to commit suicide, and the engineer cannot stop. Did the engineer help ruin her life? No.
It's a little thing called choice. She chose to step in front of a camera just the same as the train, and she knew once she did neither the train nor the photos could be stopped easily, and there is no changing her mind.

At the end of the day, she signed a contract as an adult, he upheld his end, should she not have to grow up and uphold hers?

My exact thought. Why don't people think before doing those kind of work? Amazing.

That is the worst comparison ever.. the engineer WOULD stop if he could. Here the publisher has a chance to stop. Yes she is adult and she signed legal papers, but it is not about the legality. It is about keeping things easy. These girls are often very confused and despite they are 18, often have not properly matured to the level of a normal 18 yo.
On top of that this girl sounds crazy, suicidal.. would you want the next headline to be : 18 year old college student kills herself, she was cohersed into doing porn and could not find a way out...

"Welcome to the Real WORLD SISTER".... That is what I would say....I agree with the above, if you have followed all the procedures correctly then screw her. If she wants to cover every single dime you spent on it then that is something to think about. Why should you feel bad because she was a ding dong that compromised who she was as a person for money. She should live with the mistake and learn from it.

listen to Sunny who is a model - and stop buying into this crap that doing some nude modelng or porn work destroys any girl's life. sorry it doesnt work that way, of course it's easy to put the blame there but you don't have to dig very far to see that there are almost always many other issues going on with the girl. if you are a captain save a ho type then go the whole distance - do what donny did and get out of the business entirely because i will guarantee you that on every site you send traffic to there are several girls with similar stories and regrets and you are profiting from it.

if you're going to get rid of the content for the $ you paid her its one thing, im talking about when you want much more than you paid her.

besides, why would you give her the $ you paid her back and be done with it? you must not value your time.

You can take that approach. However, as a business owner, it is all about limiting your liability. Remember, this is the United States of America where anyone can sue anyone else for anything at any time. Bogus lawsuit? It will get thrown out of court. 10 to 20 thousand dollars later.

There are plenty of sleazy lawyers out there that would take a case like this and charge a 6 blow job retainer, 3 fucks a month fee, and anal when the case is won. There is a greater than 75/25 chance that if a case like this was filed, it would proceed without getting thrown out. Pussy is infinite, $$$$'s are finite.

Again, its all about limiting liability.

The same opinion here...if you trust her, you should drop the photos...

These are my general rules for trying to avoid this type of situation. So far, so good.

Don't approach them first. Place an ad and make them contact you. It should always be their idea. They decided to pursue adult employment before ever speaking to you.

Don't try to talk them into it. After explaining the job, if they still seem unsure then ask them to take some time to think about it and call you back when they're ready for an interview. You'll lose a few leads this way, but it's better than having them freak out during/after the shoot.

Do your interviews in a neutral no-pressure public place like a restaurant or a coffee shop. Not a bar. Answer all questions honestly. Make sure they understand exactly what will be expected and how the content will be used.

Respect any expressed limitations. If she says she isn't comfortable with boy/girl work, doesn't do anal, whatever, then don't offer her that kind of work. It's not difficult to get a girl to bend her boundaries for money, it's not a challenge, it doesn't make you pimp, it's not worth it. Definitely don't surprise her during a shoot with anything she hasn't already agreed to.

Finally, while scheduling, give her your most sincere "Are you sure?" speech. Ask her directly if it will keep her awake at night knowing there are naked pictures of her on the internet. Ask her, what if someone she knows sees them? Try to scare her off. But by now a reasonable amount of time should have passed since she first contacted you, this is at least your 3rd conversation, and while I've never had anyone back out at this point, I still go through it just for my own peace of mind.

give it back. she's going to quit smoking cigs this winter.

OK, for the asshole response...

Fuck her... She signed the releases and was paid. You aren't fucking up her life, she is. Too many people in this world want to make someone else responsible for their problems.

The reality is that you returning her pictures wouldn't un-screw her life up one iota.

Theses are always though situations... depending of what you did with the material and how you planed to use it... personally I'd ask for the money back + money for your time. (payments if she can't do it one shot, with revoking of the contract once every penny has been paid).

But that's my stand.

Right that would be an issue for my lawyer to worry about. And as said above we do a pre shoot interview with the girls and explain how the shoot will go, allow them to ask any questions. Make sure EVERYTHING is VERY clear ON VIDEO! We videotape them signing the release and us getting copies of their ids. I actually save any email correspondence and put it on the same dvd for each girl. Also make sure if you are shooting content you form an llc. This will protect your home and assets outside of the business. Make sure your release forms are done by a lawyer and all in order. TN isnt all that bad on shooting porn. Especially with what we shoot its fairly mild stuff. Do you think Georgia is any easier on porn than TN? :winkwink:

That's the best way, many amateur girls tend to change their minds when they have a new boyfriend, get a job or whatever, so give her a chance to buy back her content, but make it an expensive lesson...you aren't charity, you run a business, she signed a contract.

do the thing where you try to scare them away to test their resolve and decision and I guarantee you the only girls you'll have is deadend skanks. there would be no hardcore industry if not for pimp boyfriends and 'agents' who get these girls in the biz and it's not pretty. and i bet it's no different in Europe. the military does it, the porn industry does it - recruiting. and the military recruiter doesn't sit there harping on the dangers 'son are you sure you really want to do this? i've seen boys just like you blown apart, heads, arms, legs, it's not pretty son'

the only thing you should be is honest and tell them what your plans are for them and the content and when they have their own questions answer honestly.

I can't believe she wrote all that shit to you. Like you should care about her personal life or misfortuntes. It has nothing to do with the pictures and money. Jeez, another woman just trying to use her sobbing story to get something. Look, I'm a woman but I'm grown enough to accept all the actions that I make even if they are "mistakes." - Make her pay you back. She needs to learn a lesson. I'm not a crude bitch. hahaha

She sounds dangerous ... I'd give the pics back ...

too fucking bad.

See this is where people decide to go into the content business and really dont know.
There were at least two obscenity arrests in TN for video store owners in 2006. The first people on the net to be hit with an obscenity conviction happened in TN, even though they operated their business out of CA.
Now in GA actually we dont have a obscenity law currently it was stuck down. GA is much safer than TN Rookie. Mike South was on the cover of Creative Loafing as the porn king of Atlanta and nothing happen to him.Its more then just my lawyer to deal with if the girl papers the whole area where you live with you have a pornographer living next door to you. You dont live in the most open minded state so I would rethink your im going to be the tough business man unless your planning on moving.You have a family to consider.

Fuck it, who cares, everyone has a sob story.

Now then. Was it state law or a local law?

also who in this thread actually shoots content?

State Law if you think your safe in TN your playing with yourself. Why do you think their aren't many porn producers in TN?Im trying to be nice and give you a heads up but I can tell already you think you know better. JUst make me one promise if you do get busted dont come here begging for donations because it will be no one but your fault.