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Old 07-31-2002, 05:14 AM   #1
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Hamas Strikes:

Fox News is reporting another bombing in Israel. A bomb detonated at a University. Currently reporting 7 dead and thirty injured. Hamas is taking credit for the bomb.

The wheel continues to turn.
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Old 07-31-2002, 05:18 AM   #2
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i've said it before and i'll say it again..

the only thing these arab terrorists will understand is NAPALM. we used it in vietnam, i think there should be a NAPALM fund to raise cash for network televised napalmings of terrorist buildings and houses.. its fun to watch and fun to drop!

seriously though.. i love how the media always tells you who claims responsibility for it, but no one ever fucking goes after them. i know for a fact the arab terrorists mock the usa and israel for not coming back around and blowing the living shit out of their territories.. enough shit. just bomb the fuck out of them, and then napalm them!
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God bless the U.S.A and FOX news!

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www.cbsnews.com -- very good, free video - unlike cnn.com where they ask for cash. fuck them and their pro-arab bullshit.
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Old 07-31-2002, 08:59 AM   #6
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i've said it before and i'll say it again..

the only thing these arab terrorists will understand is NAPALM. we used it in vietnam,
....and America lost in Vietnam after having the shit kicked out of them by a bunch of gooks who were under armed and less in numbers...Didnt the last Americans shit their pants and helicopter ride out of there from the top of the American Embassy building? Do you also remember pictures of little girls, children, being burnt to death by Napalm? Oh how big and strong America is.
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....and America lost in Vietnam after having the shit kicked out of them by a bunch of gooks who were under armed and less in numbers...Didnt the last Americans shit their pants and helicopter ride out of there from the top of the American Embassy building? Do you also remember pictures of little girls, children, being burnt to death by Napalm? Oh how big and strong America is.
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We lost Vietnam at home.

In terms of numbers of VC and NVA killed, we destroyed them.

Fucking British, so bitter we had to rescue them during WW2.

Stop crying, brush your teeth, throw on an Oasis album and shut the fuck up if you dont know what your talking about Nigel.

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Old 07-31-2002, 09:05 AM   #8
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We lost Vietnam at home.

In terms of numbers of VCA and NVA killed, we destroyed them.

Fucking British, so bitter we had to rescue them during WW2.

Stop crying, brush your teeth, throw on an Oasis album and shut the fuck up if you dont know what your talking about Nigel.
...but you still lost...although when Americans make films about Vietnam you usually win....
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Labret can you elaborate on British and oral hygiene? Never heard this stereotype before.
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...but you still lost...although when Americans make films about Vietnam you usually win....
Says who and judging based upon what?

We lost in that we failed to secure Saigon?
We lost in that the American people were not behind the war at all?

What measure are you using?

If we are going on body count, which is generally what is used to decide who won or list, we absolutely destroyed them.

The ONLY reason Vietnam could be seen as a "loss" is because we had to leave. The VC and the NVA only drove us out of Saigon. They succeeded no place else. They did not beat us. Our own people beat us.

At least we can fight our own wars.

Do the British view the war of independence as a loss to them? I have heard you do not. But if it wasnt, wouldnt we be sucking Queen ass like the Canadians?
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ok sorry...you killed more but you still lost...it is widely accepted by all people that you lost Vietnam. If you can fight your own wars why is Bush trying to get the English in to kick the fuck out of Iraq? I cant see America doing it on there own.

I doubt anyone would disagree with this statement:
"America lost in Vietnam and dropped napalm on children"
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I doubt anyone would disagree with this statement:
"America lost in Vietnam and dropped napalm on children"
Sorta like when you helped us firebomb Dresden? How many civilians did that kill in just that round of bombings?

Between 35k and 135k.

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During three waves of attacks, over 1,300 British and U.S. bombers dropped more than 3,300 tons of bombs on Dresden. Many of the bombs were incendiaries.

The incendiaries dropped on the old city center started a firestorm--a huge blaze that sucked the oxygen from the air. Temperatures soared as high as 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit. This had not been seen before in Europe, although U.S. bombing started a firestorm in Tokyo and the atomic bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki also set off firestorms.


Yeah, the British, so innocent. Thanks for the help though, I am sure we appreciated it.
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Old 07-31-2002, 09:30 AM   #13
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We lost Vietnam at home.

In terms of numbers of VC and NVA killed, we destroyed them.

Fucking British, so bitter we had to rescue them during WW2.

Stop crying, brush your teeth, throw on an Oasis album and shut the fuck up if you dont know what your talking about Nigel.
US lost Vietnam at Vietnam -One of the reason: another couple of year?s war like this and US was out of jets (thanks to Russian anti-aircraft weapons and instructors).
Good book about Vietnam war: "A bright shining lie" by Neil Sheehan.
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ok sorry...you killed more but you still lost...it is widely accepted by all people that you lost Vietnam. If you can fight your own wars why is Bush trying to get the English in to kick the fuck out of Iraq? I cant see America doing it on there own.

I doubt anyone would disagree with this statement:
"America lost in Vietnam and dropped napalm on children"
We won every battle, we killed millions of the NVA and VC. They killed tens of thousands of US troops. Technically we did not lose. We withdrew our troops in 1973 and Saigon fell in 1975. It was the South Vietnamese forces that were defeated when Saigon fell, not US forces.

It is true that it is called a loss, but this is because we allowed South Vietnam to fall to the North, not be because we got our asses kicked.
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US lost Vietnam at Vietnam -One of the reason: another couple of year?s war like this and US was out of jets (thanks to Russian anti-aircraft weapons and instructors).
Good book about Vietnam war: "A bright shining lie" by Neil Sheehan.
Pure BS.
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Yeah, the British, so innocent. Thanks for the help though, I am sure we appreciated it. [/B]
Labret that is really not much in comparison to some of the mass murders comitted by English troops. I never said the UK was innocent. My initial view was that Napalm should not be used against the arabs. We should reflect on the past with a view to the future.
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It was the South Vietnamese forces that were defeated when Saigon fell, not US forces.

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Labret that is really not much in comparison to some of the mass murders comitted by English troops. I never said the UK was innocent. My initial view was that Napalm should not be used against the arabs. We should reflect on the past with a view to the future.
Your initial view?

This was your initial view.

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....and America lost in Vietnam after having the shit kicked out of them by a bunch of gooks who were under armed and less in numbers...Didnt the last Americans shit their pants and helicopter ride out of there from the top of the American Embassy building? Do you also remember pictures of little girls, children, being burnt to death by Napalm? Oh how big and strong America is.
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Didnt sound much like a plea against the use of Napalm, but rather an attempted kick at the collective nutsack of Americans.
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Pure BS.
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I will repeat; the US withdrew its forces in 1973 and Saigon fell in 1975 with the defeat of South Vietnams Army. If you think that is funny then feel free to laugh some more.
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US lost Vietnam at Vietnam -One of the reason: another couple of year?s war like this and US was out of jets (thanks to Russian anti-aircraft weapons and instructors).
This is the BS I was referring to.
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I will repeat; the US withdrew its forces in 1973 and Saigon fell in 1975 with the defeat of South Vietnams Army. If you think that is funny then feel free to laugh some more.
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I understand how you feel, but I think may be 1k Americans think like you, other world population will at what you saying
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This is the BS I was referring to.
How do you know? any facts?
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I understand how you feel, but I think may be 1k Americans think like you, other world population will at what you saying
And what the third world thinks about the Vietnam war matters to us why?
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And what the third world thinks about the Vietnam war matters to us why?
Not only third world, but most of the citizens of your country also
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Not only third world, but most of the citizens of your country also
Even if that were true... which I am in no way saying it is, all that would prove is that those particular Americans are ignorant.

Alot of Americans like Pink Floyd and the Backstreet Boys... that does not mean their opinions on music are all that informed or necessarily true.

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Even if that were true... which I am in no way saying it is, all that would prove is that those particular Americans are ignorant.

Alot of Americans like Pink Floyd and the Backstreet Boys... doesnt mean they are all that bright.
I like Pink Floyd a lot...
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How do you know? any facts?
How about this fact.

During the Second World War, with a population of less than half of the current population, we put 16 million people in the military, built hundreds of thousands of aircraft with a GNP that was virtually a fraction of our current GNP.

Do you doubt that we cannot at the least double those figures now?

The NVA had approximately 260 thousand people in their military. If the US would have needed to do it, we could have produced that number of aircraft.

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I like Pink Floyd a lot...
Imagine that.
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The NVA had approximately 260 thousand people in their military. If the US would have needed to do it, we could have produced that number of aircraft.
No doubt about this, but this war start as economical affair, and after certain period it become economically inefficient... Not everybody at that time make a profit from military supplies
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....and America lost in Vietnam after having the shit kicked out of them by a bunch of gooks who were under armed and less in numbers...Didnt the last Americans shit their pants and helicopter ride out of there from the top of the American Embassy building? Do you also remember pictures of little girls, children, being burnt to death by Napalm? Oh how big and strong America is.
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No doubt about this, but this war start as economical affair, and after certain period it become economically inefficient... Not everybody at that time make a profit from military supplies
What ever gave you the idea that "this war start as economical affair"?

That is why [Labret] is correct when he speaks about ignorance.
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Didnt sound much like a plea against the use of Napalm, but rather an attempted kick at the collective nutsack of Americans. [/B]
Ok so I probably started out against napalm then delivered a kick in the bollocks shot.
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Labret,

How can a rather informed individual like yourself, use the term "third world countries" to describe any country other than the United States?

Have you ever looked up this term and read the description?
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