Is Scientology "organised fraud"?

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  • borked
    Totally Borked
    • Feb 2005
    • 6284

    #1

    Is Scientology "organised fraud"?

    That's what the French courts are going to decide end of this year...

    This case stems from claims by a woman who said she was approached by Scientologists in a Paris street in 1998 and offered a free personality test.
    She says she ended up handing over more than 20,000 euros (£16,000) for courses, books, illegally prescribed drugs and an "electrometer" supposed to measure fluctuations in her mental state.
    What's interesting is that Scientology is not a religion, but a business in France....
    France refuses to recognise Scientology as a religion, categorising it as a purely commercial operation and keeping it under surveillance.

    So this fraud case may well stick. WIll be interesting to see how it plays out for Mr Cruise and his nutters.

    full story here

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  • baddog
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 107089

    #2
    Come on, if I can't trust Hollywood, who can I trust?

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    • Marcus Aurelius
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      • Apr 2003
      • 14809

      #3
      Tax shelter for the rich and famous.

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      • LauraLee
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        • Sep 2003
        • 3821

        #4
        In a word, YES. 100% yes.

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        • headless ghost
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          • May 2005
          • 893

          #5
          if Tom Cruise is involved ... oh well

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          • aico
            Moo Moo Cow
            • Mar 2004
            • 14748

            #6
            Wasn't it started on a bet? I've heard this, but never looked into it.

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            • MaDalton
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              • Feb 2004
              • 39861

              #7
              it's not a religion in germany either - and they are permanently under investigation by the authorities
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              • klaze
                So Fucking Banned
                • May 2008
                • 2167

                #8
                Organized fraud. most definately.

                I used to live in Yorkville and i'd walk past their Bloor/Yonge headquarters quite often to go to Burger King..

                You wouldn't believe the shit those fucks would say to me.. If I wasn't such an asshole i might have believed them and given in..

                The shit should be shut down..

                me and my friend went back last year and filmed a little clip of us going thru part of the process.. it was extremely intimidating.. If I really believed my soul was tortured i would be broke and living on the streets today because of them..

                The only way to survive scientology is to be a BRO like Cruise..
                Last edited by klaze; 09-09-2008, 10:44 AM.

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                • cykoe6
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 4499

                  #9
                  There is no doubt it is basically just an organized crime syndicate. Of course that just makes it like most other things in this world.
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                  • Cherry7
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                    • Aug 2005
                    • 3564

                    #10
                    Isn't all religion fraud?
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                    • mynameisjim
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 2985

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Cherry7
                      Isn't all religion fraud?
                      Yes, but with most most mainstream churches, if you walk in and ask to be taught the religion,they would do it without forcing you to pay any money. They "ask" for money but would never turn down teaching you if you are broke.

                      Scientology only allows you to receive the higher teachings if you pay pretty large sums of money.
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                      • Dagwolf
                        President of Canada
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 23141

                        #12
                        I liked Hubbard's science fiction. not the best, but definitely entertaining.

                        Scientology? Bah! When Jesus comes with his death-ray we'll see the end of that nonsense.
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                        • BradM
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                          • Dec 2003
                          • 3397

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Cherry7
                          Isn't all religion fraud?
                          I say we vote to abolish ALL religion.

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                          • klaze
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • May 2008
                            • 2167

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dagwolf
                            I liked Hubbard's science fiction. not the best, but definitely entertaining.

                            Scientology? Bah! When Jesus comes with his death-ray we'll see the end of that nonsense.
                            Hubbard was definatey an amazing writer.

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                            • Pleasurepays
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                              • Aug 2002
                              • 11913

                              #15
                              i learned only yesterday that if you join Sea Org.. the contract is only for 1,000,000,000 years. Sounded pretty good to me. travel... meet people, work a bit, spread the word and only have to do it for about 20,000,000 lifetimes.

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                              • Kron
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 1668

                                #16
                                yeah, it is fraud
                                I dont exchange money!

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                                • _Richard_
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                                  • Oct 2006
                                  • 30989

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by klaze
                                  Hubbard was definatey an amazing writer.
                                  ever hear about the sexual experiments he was doing in the 60s?

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                                  • Klen
                                    • Aug 2006
                                    • 32234

                                    #18
                                    Screw religion where you need to pay if you want to join.

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                                    • woj
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                                      • Jul 2002
                                      • 47880

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by mynameisjim
                                      Yes, but with most most mainstream churches, if you walk in and ask to be taught the religion,they would do it without forcing you to pay any money. They "ask" for money but would never turn down teaching you if you are broke.

                                      Scientology only allows you to receive the higher teachings if you pay pretty large sums of money.
                                      It's basically same business, just run differently...
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                                      • borked
                                        Totally Borked
                                        • Feb 2005
                                        • 6284

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by woj
                                        It's basically same business, just run differently...
                                        like Enron compared to Exxon, Texaco, Dynegy et al

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                                        • Deej
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                                          • Jun 2005
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                                          #21
                                          All organized religions have fraud involved...

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                                          • JamesK
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                                            • Jun 2002
                                            • 16731

                                            #22
                                            Religion is a fraud too, so who gives a fuck.
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                                            • GrouchyAdmin
                                              Now choke yourself!
                                              • Apr 2006
                                              • 12085

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by borked
                                              like Enron compared to Exxon, Texaco, Dynegy et al

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                                              • Z
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                                                • Nov 2002
                                                • 6308

                                                #24
                                                The simple truth is, yes.

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                                                • JFK
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                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                  • 67369

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Z
                                                  The simple truth is, yes.
                                                  YES, the answer is, YES

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