Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11774825)

Can someone post the coles notes version of this? I see a ton of vague this and that, and I got lost about half way through.

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11774825)

Can someone post the coles notes version of this? I see a ton of vague this and that, and I got lost about half way through.

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 11774800)

I'm sure you can conjure up a FINANCIAL solution. Outside of that, you fucked me. Plain and simple.

Paying me off, offering DVDs rights, or whatever you want to offer does not change the fact that you did this and violated the trust I had, and totally destroyed the massive amount of respect I had for you.

Unless you can walk on fucking water and create miracles, there is not a solution to this. Believe me when I say that this is the last thing I wanted, because I really don't need the hassle right now, but wrong is wrong and I'm going to call you out on it.

Admit you fucked me, right here to everyone, and come clean. Then and only then are we going to move forward. It's not going to make you look any worse, but you will at least take the stripe, put it behind you, and move forward.

I'm not going to stop until you do, and unfortunately for you this is just the beginning.

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 11774832)

DWB talks to the guys from island dollars about a project with a model in a bar (single girl site).

Island Dollars go behind his back and build a single girl site with the same girl

Island contacts DWB to make good somehow... claims in this thread he dosen't remember the conversation.

DWB dosen't care about the money, but want to make sure everyone knows about Island Dollars.
DWB also claims it was very clear that they knew about what he was building.

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 11774416)

I'm in the USA right now, he is in Thailand.

It is not out of the realm of possibility that he will be arrested soon and either jailed or blacklisted from Thailand. It really is just a matter of how pissed I still am when I get back over there, and how much bull shit he wants to continue to spew out of his lying mouth.

When it comes to my family or my business, I will DESTROY anyone who fucks with either.

Thailand is the WRONG country to live in (and shoot porn in) if you have enemies.

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 11774549)

I approached Dallas with all of the different avenues of resolution I could think of; purchasing his content, working together on a site, putting up two sites and selling as a partnership betwen them. I even mentioned selling our content to him.

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11774840)

Okay, so in other words, investment of time and effort made without securing the model on contract first, right?

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11774840)

Okay, so in other words, investment of time and effort made without securing the model on contract first, right?

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 11774836)

I feel awful about the entire situation Dallas, on a personal level. I've always valued your friendship and am sincere in says I don't want you to feel or think you are getting fucked over. Looking at the entire post and how things played out I was in the wrong. Lets talk.

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 11774849)

Thai model... can't really do contracts

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11774847)

I guess selling him what you had done so far and backing off was not an option you thought of ?

You claim you didn't know he was building a site around her, but then when you found out he was building a site it didn't stop you from continuing with her then so why would it have stopped you if you knew before hand :upsidedow

doesn't make sense. So you saying you wouldn't have worked with her if you knew he was building a site around her ?

(if yes, then stop with her now and let him buy your content from you so you don't lose any money.)

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 11774406)

No, I'm PISSED in an unforgiving way. I just didn't feel the post needed that tone.

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 11774858)

In theory that sounds good, but I should not have to buy content of her, from someone else to stop them from making a site.

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 11774805)

And what sounds will you make when karma catches up with you?

You pay people to design nice looking sites for you, packaging what looks like 30-somethings to me as teenagers, but when the facade is stripped away, you are coming across as someone who would screw/pimp his mother for a quick buck.

I've been to Thailand. You best sleep with one eye open if that is all you are good for...

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11774871)

Without some exclusivity with the model, this is the risk you took. The model knew what you were up to, yet still shot for someone else. At a certain point, the issue is of your own making, and you need to accept at least some responsibility for the situation. You should feel lucky that it is someone yu feel you can call out on the boards, rather than someone a little bigger than you tell you to just blow away.

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11774871)

Remember, too, tattling to the Thai authorities would have to start out with "I met this model that I shot nude on my last trip to thailand" which would pretty much put you in the same leaky boat.

Originally Posted by swami (Post 11774480)

I am not a full time gfy man but I have come to know DWB through his posts and he stacks up as a straight shooter, no bullshit sort of guy, with lots of interesting and often funny stories.

The only posts I have seen of the Island Dollars crew, is snake oil spam.

Fuckem.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11774847)

I guess selling him what you had done so far and backing off was not an option you thought of ?

You claim you didn't know he was building a site around her, but then when you found out he was building a site it didn't stop you from continuing with her then so why would it have stopped you if you knew before hand :upsidedow

doesn't make sense. So you saying you wouldn't have worked with her if you knew he was building a site around her ?

(if yes, then stop with her now and let him buy your content from you so you don't lose any money.)

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 11774890)

As mentioned earlier, selling the content was an option presented. The content is already shot and we are more than flexible.

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 11774879)

As a fellow Asian producer, I do not appreciate your cheap unprovoked shots in this thread . But you are most certainly entitled to your opinions, and a visit to Asia. :)

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11774912)

so you are willing to sell HIM the content that YOU Shot ?

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11774912)

so you are willing to sell HIM the content that YOU Shot ?

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 11774919)

He says NOW he will. But to be forced into buying content so they don't open a site, at their price, is not a real solution IMHO. :2 cents:

However, it is a start.

This will not end until he admins to fucking me. THEN and only then will we work on a solution that is a win-win.

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 11774924)

Of course. It was mentioned earlier in the thread.

Options in no particular order:
1) us purchasing any outstanding content
2) partnership and release one site and content together
3) releasing two seperate sites independant and branded
4) releasing two seperate sites with a cross promotion relationship together
5) Selling our content

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 11774930)

if it's for his cost then it wouldnt be a bad deal and resolution to your problem. However you might have the same girl walking 2 weeks from now, and someone else doing a site with her and competiting with you. If you have a years worth of content I would just launch the site regardless and run with it. If she sticks around great. If she sticks around and no one else snags her and competes with you even better. but you have to almost count on another site poping up built around her sooner or later.

I doubt he is going to admit anything at this point. It is clear what he has done so you at least get some satisfaction for exposing this.

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 11774919)

He says NOW he will. But to be forced into buying content so they don't open a site, at their price, is not a real solution IMHO. :2 cents:

However, it is a start.

This will not end until he admins to fucking me. THEN and only then will we work on a solution that is a win-win.

Originally Posted by wyldworx (Post 11774956)

mouthpiece, mouthpiece, where is the boss!

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 11774945)

It was mentioned before the start of this thread. Hell, I even went on to say put up the site first to see if it the goldmine we envisioned. If it is you can buy me out. If not then it doesn't matter.

As I said before, you were on the wrong end of this, but not by our intentions. If it had been intentional I would not have bothered contacting you once the mention of the content came up. I would have just put out the site QUICKLY. Do you think that the content you shot is important to us? It's not in the slightest.

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 11774916)

So far you have pretty much ducked the main issue that DWB raised, which is that you and your partner knew that DWB was developing a solo site with this model, and rather than work something out with him beforehand, you chose to go around his back and shoot the same girl for your own solo site.

My posting in support of DWB is because he has proven himself to be an honest and straightforward person, and nothing more. I am an independent producer - I owe no one anything in this industry, besides my word.

As for visiting Asia, I grew up in Hawaii, lived five years in Japan, traveled to over ten countries in Asia, and visit frequently, so I'm not sure what your point was with that comment.

I owe no apology for sticking up for DWB...on the other hand, I think you owe him a sincere apology.

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 11774844)

You would think people working in a foreign country and preforming work that is illegal in that country, would walk on egg shells very, very lightly. It's not like Thailand has a nice track record with westerners whom break the law in their county. Would be one of the places I wouldn't want to live and have an enemy that knew I was doing work that was illegal.

Originally Posted by pradaboy (Post 11774973)

Asswipe, this has nothing to do with thebosxxx he merely quoted the assholes that did fuck DWB over.

At least learn to read before you go head first into the sigwhoring challenge of your life.