Keep it alive......

so you are willing to sell HIM the content that YOU Shot ?

:Oh crap

So far you have pretty much ducked the main issue that DWB raised, which is that you and your partner knew that DWB was developing a solo site with this model, and rather than work something out with him beforehand, you chose to go around his back and shoot the same girl for your own solo site.

My posting in support of DWB is because he has proven himself to be an honest and straightforward person, and nothing more. I am an independent producer - I owe no one anything in this industry, besides my word.

As for visiting Asia, I grew up in Hawaii, lived five years in Japan, traveled to over ten countries in Asia, and visit frequently, so I'm not sure what your point was with that comment.

I owe no apology for sticking up for DWB...on the other hand, I think you owe him a sincere apology.

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He says NOW he will. But to be forced into buying content so they don't open a site, at their price, is not a real solution IMHO. :2 cents:

However, it is a start.

This will not end until he admins to fucking me. THEN and only then will we work on a solution that is a win-win.

Of course. It was mentioned earlier in the thread.

Options in no particular order:
1) us purchasing any outstanding content
2) partnership and release one site and content together
3) releasing two seperate sites independant and branded
4) releasing two seperate sites with a cross promotion relationship together
5) Selling our content

if it's for his cost then it wouldnt be a bad deal and resolution to your problem. However you might have the same girl walking 2 weeks from now, and someone else doing a site with her and competiting with you. If you have a years worth of content I would just launch the site regardless and run with it. If she sticks around great. If she sticks around and no one else snags her and competes with you even better. but you have to almost count on another site poping up built around her sooner or later.

I doubt he is going to admit anything at this point. It is clear what he has done so you at least get some satisfaction for exposing this.

Those are al financial solutions. At this time, all worthless to me.

How are you going to "right" how you wronged me?

For this, there is only ONE solution, and you know what it is. :2 cents:

I will discuss buy outs once he admits what he has done. In the meantime......

All these fuckers having a go at you dwb, funny thing is in my oppinion, is that you have been wronged. Why is there so much fucking arrogance in the world...and are they just mouthpieces? All comes out in the wash, doesn't it...

It was mentioned before the start of this thread. Hell, I even went on to say put up the site first to see if it the goldmine we envisioned. If it is you can buy me out. If not then it doesn't matter.

As I said before, you were on the wrong end of this, but not by our intentions. If it had been intentional I would not have bothered contacting you once the mention of the content came up. I would have just put out the site QUICKLY. Do you think that the content you shot is important to us? It's not in the slightest. It was genuinely about talking with you about the situation, letting you know where we were at with it and working towards a solution.

mouthpiece, mouthpiece, where is the boss!

DWB - that sucks for you, I've had something similar happen to me in the past.

It's not how business should be done..

Asswipe, this has nothing to do with thebosxxx he merely quoted the assholes that did fuck DWB over.

At least learn to read before you go head first into the sigwhoring challenge of your life.

For what it's worth, IslandDollars is now on my, and I hope many other's, shitlist.

Good luck DWB.

Can you dissemble more, or be any more condescending?

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No. The main issue has been asked and answered, which was producing the same exact site concept with the same model WITH our complete knowledge AND doing it out of malice.

NO WE DID NOT DO THAT.

No ducking, no hiding, no spin. Being on the side of DWB has nothing to do with your views our content or our sites. Your words were very clear in what you thought of our girls and sites, and you took the opportunity to throw it in what you must have been thinking for some time now.

So yes, that was a cheap shot for your own agenda.

kinda scary.. what came in mind is.... how could they shoot contents there if its illegal? model release, ids, etc etc.. im kinda curious.. porn is illegal here as well. :1orglaugh

im gonna stay outta this one, my neighbors are fighting...

no idea what situation I was posting in fuckwit, and for what it is worth, check me out, bitch!:321GFY

Well, from this thread it sure appears that you did. Why would you try to buy off DWB if you felt that you had done nothing wrong? An even more baldface lie was your initial claim to not even know he was working with the same model (see your second post in this thread).

What agenda do I have? I am neither a Sponsor or an Affiliate. I am 100% independent. I have nothing to gain no matter how this issue goes.

I don't shoot illegally in 3rd world countries, I pay top dollar to legally shoot Asian girls in the U.S. It's a different niche, because my models don't look all 3rd world like yours.

If you can state honestly that Joon is only 18, and that you do not fake fan signs, then I owe you an apology, otherwise I stand by all of my comments in this thread.

http://www.joonmalifan.com/fan.jpeg

http://www.islanddollars.com/promo/Joon/Solo/8/

I am the least of your concerns right now. See if you can focus on the real issues...

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fuck you marty, this is wrong, plain and simple and you know it.

considering the locale we work in at times a little mutual respect is usually expected, and this goes far over the line. quite a nice glass house to fuck around in...

next time your in patong watch out for the tuk-tuk mafia.. :321GFY :disgust

I look for the best opportunity to make money and make all sides satisfied. That is what doing business is about. A buy out was an option, as were many others. I knew he and others had worked with her before BUT DID NOT HAVE A SITE IN DEVELOPMENT.

No, Joon is no longer 18 years old. If she was 18 now, and her site launched in June of 2006, with production, editing, deisgn and programming it would be impossible . But she will be eternally 18 on her site. We have years of content for Joon and all of our girls. As far as content, I am happy you prefer to shoot the overexposed San Fran and Cali girls. Girls that are in every production and on every asian site on the web. Good. I wish you well with it and am happy you enjoy it. I prefer our girls as you put it all '3rd World'.

And break back out the Sherlock Holmes cap on the fansigns. Have you ever seen a custom generated fansign script? They are part of our ad tools and probably a 100 other programs have them. They are fast, quick ways for affiliates to add a personal touch to their site. Of course those are fake, was that really a discovery for you? :upsidedow

The fansign shoot we did with Lily Koh the end of December was our first fansign shoot and announcement, and affiliate who asked for them LOVE THEM.

And you are????

My icq is always available: 176176

page 3 and no picture of the girl yet... fuck.

i don't have anything to discuss w/ you marty, just reminding you we live in the land of karma made flesh. fuck you..

she must be the new Helen of Troy....

So now, after you called me out, you admit I was correct, and that your entire program is a sham. Gee, that sure is swell. :1orglaugh

You seem to enjoy basking in your lies and stupidity...

If you actually bothered to check, instead of once again talking out your ass, you would have seen that in addition to shooting "exclusive photos and videos" of the top most popular Asian import scene models, amateur models, glam/pin-up models, and porn stars on the internet, I have also shot several first time models, and models exclusive only to my sites.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

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In her market, she is.

A sham because we offer custom fansigns and Geo IP fansigns to our affiliates? I think it's a misunderstanding on your part, and you do not understand what a custom fansign script is or does. Other programs like Jaymancash, MayorMoney offers them to affiliates to personalize their sites. It is another useful tool like a photo of the day that helps sales and keeps an affiliates site looking fresh. A sales tool, similar to a geo ip sign showing a location to get a surfers attention.

You're right. I did not check your site, just past memory of some of the girls you've posted. Searching back through some of the pics you posted, it's really some nice stuff and I hadn't seen the girls before. Congrats!

take this a lesson of life. Is it fair or cool that friends do this? No but it's business. Nobody is going to give it to you, you have to TAKE it.

Since you seem to be at an impasse, it may be a good time to start posting some pix, unless this is a fake drama cooked up by both of you...I sure hope not, since I have risen to your defense.

Sorry, but I am an eternal skeptic...especially when you have responded to other posts, but have not said peep about mine.

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islanddollars should be willing to sell the content they shot at COST

Any problems with this?

This is not fake drama. I would not dare discredit anyone like this for clicks of views. But I do wish it did not happen.

After the personal issue is dealt with, and only after, will the business solution get resolved.

I gotta get some sleep. Night all.

I'm not quite as ignorant or naive as you may think. As an independent, it irks me at times about all of the fake crap pumped out by corporate sites, but in the end that's business for some people.

Please note that I am not in the habit of posting negative things in your threads, and that more often than not, I have made positive/supportive comments, if I have posted anything at all.

Fortunately for me, I have a hardcore dedicated base of fans that know what I do is for real, and is not based upon marketing gimics. My biggest fan base is in the Bay Area, because they get to meet me and some of my models at various events here several times a year, plus they can host photo shoots, etc.

Loyalty earned like that runs deep...

Thank you for that...

I didn't come into this thread spoiling for a fight. I honestly am in awe of what your designer(s) come up with. I do most of my site by myself, and for the most part I am a self-educated amateur, which I am not ashamed to admit.

If you have seen any of my serious posts, I am very defensive of people I like and respect, such as DWB (even though some of his content makes me squeemish), although I am also unafraid to disagree with them publicly.

I genuinely hope that you and DWB can work this out amicably.

As a gesture in that direction, I would recommend first a public apology, and then for both of you to take your negotiations off the board - read again my first post. This need not have evolved past that.

It's late for me - good night.

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so, where can we see a pic of the girl this is all about?

marty, u knew what DWB had planned and u snaked him.... its plain & simple especially for those of us who live in thailand. u can find all kinds of ways to make it sound like this is just a misunderstanding but we all know better... don't let other dirt come out by not putting this to bed

Fan signs are fake? :mad:

lol post of the month

hum quite interesting

haven't read it all...but my heart goes out.
You got fucked, professionally and personally.

But its starting to look like there may be a way out. Be careful about letting pride take over.
Would you rather be right? or would you rather be happy?

I really hope this is resolved in a way that you remain happy. Good luck.

Thats really fucked up.

Ah, thats your site. I want to work with you on some things. :thumbsup

I always trie to put things very clearly on paper before I start talking about anything at all, people who play fair will never have a problem with that coz
it only applies if things go wrong, people who don't want this you should be
weary off coz they obviously have other intentions than you.

Not sure if that's the best way to do it but it works for me lol (knock on wood)
If you make it too easy for somebody to take advantage of your enthusiasm
there's a big chance they will

I'm not taking either side of this but in reading everything, both of you agree this girl is a goldmine. Can you guys post pics of her and/or explain why she is so much different than the average girl?

Damn bro..sorry to hear how this shit went down, hope the 2 of you can work it out :)

I bet its a tranny

pix would help