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Old 01-20-2007, 01:00 PM   #1
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Democrats Brainstorming To Come Up With More Candidates That Can't Win

if Hilary Clinton were anything but a selfish power hungry you know what she'd put her own whims aside and do what's best for the country and people she will spend the next years claiming she loves so much - she CANNOT win, Bama Lama Ding Dong CANNOT win - they should be working their asses off to help find and convince somebody to run who CAN win - and that includes trying to woo moderate Republicans. Teddy Kennedy's liver has a better chance of winning the presidency than these two political oddities.

so what other minority can they drag up that middle America will reject?
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Old 01-20-2007, 01:02 PM   #2
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if Hilary Clinton were anything but a selfish power hungry you know what she'd put her own whims aside and do what's best for the country and people she will spend the next years claiming she loves so much - she CANNOT win, Bama Lama Ding Dong CANNOT win - they should be working their asses off to help find and convince somebody to run who CAN win - and that includes trying to woo moderate Republicans. Teddy Kennedy's liver has a better chance of winning the presidency than these two political oddities.

so what other minority can they drag up that middle America will reject?
shhh, we must be Bush supporters if we feel that way.
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Old 01-20-2007, 02:48 PM   #3
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Why can't either one win, especially Obama. Seems to me that he is drawing quite the crowds at his events.

Just got done reading his book, and I gotta tell ya, he seems like the real deal. Here is a guy who has more personal international experience than our current dolt in charge.

Imagine just how many women and minorities are going to vote if one of these 2 are running. It is scaring the shit out of the republicans, because it cancels all those white rednecks by 100 times.

Anything but another white male in his 50's.
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:05 PM   #4
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Obama would be great as a VP imo, I just don't see him able to carry the weight of the presidency on his shoulders. And if he runs with Hillary… he’ll kill his shot :| I’d love to be proven wrong though, we definitely do need a change from the traditional fifty year old+ white males (as spanky said). I know I would never vote for that harpy of a woman though. I just can’t vote for that she-bitch in good conscious.
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:10 PM   #6
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Democrats will win no matter who will candidate.Bush simply has made toomany shit
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:12 PM   #7
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Every time I hear Obama speak he reminds me of Bobby Kennedy.

After the Bush years, we need someone to give us all a little hope.

Take a looksee at who the repubs are throwing out there. Talk about left overs, and they all seem to be supportive of the new Iraq increase. Real smart as over 70% of the US wants us out.

As for Hillary, imagine Bill out there getting people fired up.
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:18 PM   #8
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just go back and look at the electoral map from the last election - the goal of any political party should be to win - the blue states are decades away from electing a woman or minority - the democrats have to accept that reality. all the liberal dreamers will get caught up in the Bama and Hilary hype as will the media, they'll all delude themselves that it's possible one of them can be President - and polls will support the fantasy through the primaries and even the presidential campaign - UNTIL election night and then they'll all be standing on the stage weeping again as McCain or some other white middle aged male becomes the next President.
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Old 01-20-2007, 05:44 PM   #9
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just go back and look at the electoral map from the last election - the goal of any political party should be to win - the blue states are decades away from electing a woman or minority - the democrats have to accept that reality. all the liberal dreamers will get caught up in the Bama and Hilary hype as will the media, they'll all delude themselves that it's possible one of them can be President - and polls will support the fantasy through the primaries and even the presidential campaign - UNTIL election night and then they'll all be standing on the stage weeping again as McCain or some other white middle aged male becomes the next President.
Talk about living in a dream world. hahahahahaha mccain hahahahahahah
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Democrats will win no matter who will candidate.Bush simply has made toomany shit
Is ignorance really blissful?
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Old 01-20-2007, 05:59 PM   #11
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he's actually right. neither a woman or a black man stand a chance. maybe in 100 years, but there is still way too much ignorance in this country. politics is about winning over the ignorant. democrats shoot themselves in the foot, as usual.
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Must be if you think a republican has a chance in 08
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This may very well be the third election in a row where the Dems put up candidates that people just don't like.

A lot of people do not like Hillary. They see her as a rude, pent-up bitch. And Obama, he's making some moves now and come 2012 he may have a good shot, but right now he's just so "fresh" most people just don't know him.

Gore. People thought he was a stone. Kerry. People thought he was a stone. Clinton? People think she's a stone.

The Dems have 2 years to really spin some magic. They have been promising change, if they don't make a change, 2008 could really hurt. They didn't win because people like Dems, then won because people are pissed off at the Reps, that isn't a good position to be in.
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Must be if you think a republican has a chance in 08
You are truly cluless if you think the Democrats will win no matter who they nominate.
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They sure are making a difference since they took over Congress:


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Democratic leaders will hold symbolic votes in House and Senate on Pres Bush's plan to send more troops to Baghdad, forcing Republicans to take stand on proposal and seeking to isolate Bush politically over his handling of Iraq war; Senate vote is expected after initial round of committee hearings on plan Bush will lay out in speech to nation; Democrats clarify that resolutions will do nothing in practical terms to block Bush's intention to increase military presence in Iraq, but do not rule out future votes capping number of troops or limiting financing for war, both of which could provoke Constitutional and political showdown over president's power to wage war; resolutions represent most signficant reconsideration of Congressional support for war since it began and mark first big clash between White House and Congress since Democrats took control of Congress

The Democrats sure know how to take charge.
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You are truly cluless if you think the Democrats will win no matter who they nominate.
Right now every republican supports bush head and his expansion of the war. Hate to break it to ya, the republic ain't going for it anymore.

Chicken little has cried terror to many times.
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Right now every republican supports bush head and his expansion of the war.
No they don't.
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Politicians are politicians. It doesn't matter what party they pretend to be with.

A bunch of power hungry egotistical whores. Fuck 'em.
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Right now every republican supports bush head and his expansion of the war. Hate to break it to ya, the republic ain't going for it anymore.

Chicken little has cried terror to many times.
You should sue the public school system.
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Sorry I meant to say republican candidate.
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Must be if you think a republican has a chance in 08
So you're just going to go with the same failed stratedgy used in 2004? "Anybody but Bush!". How did that one work out anyway?
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So you're just going to go with the same failed stratedgy used in 2004? "Anybody but Bush!". How did that one work out anyway?
How did the 2006 election work out for you republicans+
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Politicians are politicians. It doesn't matter what party they pretend to be with.

A bunch of power hungry egotistical whores. Fuck 'em.
Believe ya

Also believe it will not make an ounce of difference and the only progress with be a continuing downwards spiral into oblivion - but costing individuals along the way.
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I can see that this is going to be a fascinating elections.
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You men are wrong; women WILL vote for a female president.
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Old 01-21-2007, 03:18 AM   #26
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Its going to get interesting...

http://www.google.com/trends?q=barac...o=all&date=all

Also claiming people in the us are not ready to vote fora minority or women president... how come they are in regards to senators?

Alexa graph for obama is fun too, but I think that someone faked it.... not sure though...
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I'll just say this:

2008 is a lifetime away in terms of politics. A lot can happen one way or the other in the next 18 months that will have an effect on the election. If Bush does some good it will help the republican candidate, if he does badly, it will hurt them some. Same with the democrats. they came into power in this last election making a lot of promises. If they fail to deliver on at least some of them they will hurt the chance of the democratic nominee.

That said I will say that anyone who states emphatically that Obama or Clinton can't win doesn't know as much about politics as they think they do. I'm not saying they will win, but there are scenarios out there where they most certainly could.
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