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Theo · 07-27-2002, 05:16 PM

as far the different ID i have seen it happening to a lot of sponsors. I have seen also sponsors having 404 to their signup page, script errors that crash your system etc. The other day shemp was redirecting to a sponsor. I posted it's an htaccess mistake shemp did. After few min shemp posted the same. I wasn't a magician, these things happen all the day.

I have read both bad and good things about SI on the web. I haven't use their programs, but all the friends i have and use them they always getting paid. My friends opinion are more important for me than the posts i read from people i dont even know that's why when someone asks me for a ppc search box i tell him mojosearch. Do I like 12clicks? HELL NO!

I have seen bad things for every sponsor and when it comes to mainstream ones with the degree of difficulty running a ppc or pps sponsor then you have to face with zillion scammers and cheaters.

Seriously now for the deleted post, maybe it was moved to another section of the board more related or something like that. I can't know.

421Fill · 07-27-2002, 05:22 PM

Soul_Rebel now that you are speaking with intelligence (thanks btw) I will point out that, no they were not moved, they were removed... and this took place over a period of three months, so the likelihood of something happening like with the shemp the other day is pretty low for that long of a period. Dontcha' think?

Theo · 07-27-2002, 05:22 PM

12clicks in action! that's why he doesnt post now

Theo · 07-27-2002, 05:24 PM

fixed

Techie Media · 07-27-2002, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Go figure, we must be the only ones.

Not true Kimmy my Sweetie..

...I use several of 12clicks programs and Never had 1 single problem. So can can I join you and Gary???...Pretty please

to Standard Internet

Kimmykim · 07-27-2002, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbo
Notice how KimmyKim has shut up now that I pointed out how she didn't even bother to read what was posted... hmmmm

I read the part where your moms a cheater, what did you not understand?

Maybe she did it by mistake, maybe she can't read, what do I know about her?

Interestingly enough, why are you the one posting about this if your mom is the one with the problem? I guarantee she'd get alot more sympathy by posting about it herself than by you starting such a lame thread.

I've also seen SI occasionally give someone a second chance, if they made a mistake and it wasn't an intentional thing.

Gary, icq me that vid when you're done with it, Emeril's cookin' but I'm not paying much attention since I don't like the menu...

B40 · 07-27-2002, 05:29 PM

Running the ooooooo program ;)

If this were your signature you could be making easy money

421Fill · 07-27-2002, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

I read the part where your moms a cheater, what did you not understand?

Maybe she did it by mistake, maybe she can't read, what do I know about her?

Interestingly enough, why are you the one posting about this if your mom is the one with the problem? I guarantee she'd get alot more sympathy by posting about it herself than by you starting such a lame thread.

I've also seen SI occasionally give someone a second chance, if they made a mistake and it wasn't an intentional thing.

Gary, icq me that vid when you're done with it, Emeril's cookin' but I'm not paying much attention since I don't like the menu...

Where did it once say that my Mom was a cheater?! And she isn't post here because... now brace yourself for this one... SHE IS NOT IN ADULT, therefore she doen't even know of this place.

Oh, and about having a stern talk to ones mom if they were doing porn... you're a mom aren't you? Maybe you should think before you post. And all this coming from someone whos' husbands program is banned here. lol wonder why that is?

Now just go down to your couch and tell gary it's past his naptime.

421Fill · 07-27-2002, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by B40
Running the ooooooo program ;)

If this were your signature you could be making easy money

hehehe... kind of ironic isn't it? LOL

Pathfinder · 07-27-2002, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Lamar
Well, I see that Serge's Good Bad and Ugly is censored on this board. Not sure what that's all about but that also speaks volumes.

Hey Lamar. Its been awhile.

Yep Serge has been banned at least twice.

mrthumbs · 07-27-2002, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbo

Where did it once say that my Mom was a cheater?! And she isn't post here because... now brace yourself for this one... SHE IS NOT IN ADULT, therefore she doen't even know of this place.

Oh, and about having a stern talk to ones mom if they were doing porn... you're a mom aren't you? Maybe you should think before you post. And all this coming from someone whos' husbands program is banned here. lol wonder why that is?

Now just go down to your couch and tell gary it's past his naptime.

Sly_RJ · 07-27-2002, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbo

Where did it once say that my Mom was a cheater?! And she isn't post here because... now brace yourself for this one... SHE IS NOT IN ADULT, therefore she doen't even know of this place.

Oh, and about having a stern talk to ones mom if they were doing porn... you're a mom aren't you? Maybe you should think before you post. And all this coming from someone whos' husbands program is banned here. lol wonder why that is?

Now just go down to your couch and tell gary it's past his naptime.

Pretty funny bro, pretty funny...

Have any smaller webmasters had any success with SI? From what I have picked up on through various threads over the past several months... Lightning has some numbers to push, KimmyKim certainly isn't another fly, and Gary is the king of elephant bukkake. It would be in SI's best interest to keep people like these happy, but not necessarily the smaller folks who take up more resources but turn less profit.

Just something to think about, I really have no idea. Never tried out SI...

Gary · 07-27-2002, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Pretty funny bro, pretty funny...

Have any smaller webmasters had any success with SI? From what I have picked up on through various threads over the past several months... Lightning has some numbers to push, KimmyKim certainly isn't another fly, and Gary is the king of elephant bukkake. It would be in SI's best interest to keep people like these happy, but not necessarily the smaller folks who take up more resources but turn less profit.

Just something to think about, I really have no idea. Never tried out SI...

Please, i dont send SI programs more than a few hits a month. Trust me, Ron aint buying land because of me. LOL

Another thing, Ron doesn't give a shit how much traffic you send. As long as you are not a dick or a russian, he'll gladly talk to you unless you attempt to flame him on a message board.

Kimmykim · 07-27-2002, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Pretty funny bro, pretty funny...

Have any smaller webmasters had any success with SI? From what I have picked up on through various threads over the past several months... Lightning has some numbers to push, KimmyKim certainly isn't another fly, and Gary is the king of elephant bukkake. It would be in SI's best interest to keep people like these happy, but not necessarily the smaller folks who take up more resources but turn less profit.

Just something to think about, I really have no idea. Never tried out SI...

Nope, Sly -- it's not about being something besides a small fry with Standard --

I don't have any personal traffic of my own, haven't since I went to work for CCBill a couple years back.

I am talking about when I was lucky to get a check for 50 bucks from them. I always got paid, shrimp that I was, and they were nice enough to help me figure out what worked, and not just for their programs either -- 12clicks taught me how to build Yahoo sites that got listed and made money...

As for you turbo, you assume way too much.

421Fill · 07-27-2002, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

As for you turbo, you assume way too much.

What is it that I am assuming? Please enlighten me.

Sly_RJ · 07-27-2002, 06:33 PM

Gary, KK...

Fair enough, was just a thought that ran through my mind. But thanks for clearing that up.

nocostporn · 07-27-2002, 06:50 PM

and then there are those who choose sides for the sake of ass kissing the "powerful" of the two parties..ahem.. theres my only comment for the thread...

Ace-Ace · 07-27-2002, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gary
Is your mother russian?

Hahaha

421Fill · 07-27-2002, 06:59 PM

K. just to clarify again... She was not terminated from their program... she was banned from their support board for calling them on lies. as far as I know her account is still active, although she stopped promoting them on her own accord.

ldinternet · 07-27-2002, 07:00 PM

I had a positive experience with SI's MojoSearch when I used them a while back. Paid good money and re-issued checks when the bank fucked up... yes, it was the bank's fault. ;-)

Not my position to comment on their business at the moment 'cause I haven't used them for so long. Seems like some others don't have such a great experience. Maybe it's just the luck of the draw that some have good experiences, and others have bad.

Don't really think that anyone can say they are either completely one hundred percent honest all of the time, or complete bastard thieves, based on their own personal experiences with that company. Even if they are strict as fuck, each situation is different.

Only natural that anyone that gets canned (for whatever reason, whether legit or not) wants to see them go out of business, whilst those with good experiences generally sit back, rarely bothering to throw in their two cents, and watch the whole drama unfold.

Kimmykim · 07-27-2002, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nocostporn
and then there are those who choose sides for the sake of ass kissing the "powerful" of the two parties..ahem.. theres my only comment for the thread...

No real validity to that either nocostporn -- it's no secret that I like those guys, I happen to find them excellent people to do business with and to hang out with.

I've known 12clicks since about the time I started in this business and he's one of the few that I still like, talk to, AND do business with when the opportunity arises.

Y'all haters just don't understand his sense of humor ;)

nocostporn · 07-27-2002, 07:15 PM

maybe I wasn't talking about you love... but yes..yes I was LOL
and I'm the same way,I would stand up for a friend even if I don't know the whole story...meh not my business anyways..I'm out of this one

pr0 · 07-27-2002, 07:18 PM

I never missed a check from standard internet.

421Fill · 07-27-2002, 07:32 PM

Oh KimmyKim, you're back... now what exactly was it that I was 'assuming'?

Kimmykim · 07-27-2002, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbo
Oh KimmyKim, you're back... now what exactly was it that I was 'assuming'?

That your head up your ass wasn't noticeable to anyone but you?

421Fill · 07-27-2002, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

That your head up your ass wasn't noticeable to anyone but you?

see, when you say stuff that you think makes you sound like you know what you're talking about... you really should have something better to say than a childish avoiding the question answer. Just makes you look even more dumb everytime you post.

421Fill · 07-27-2002, 07:42 PM

but then again, anyone who can't even figure out how to fix their sig, really is dumb.

gothweb · 07-27-2002, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightning

So can can I join you and Gary???...Pretty please

Now that is a bizarre love triangle. That image is going to be with me for weeks. Bleh.

chodadog · 07-27-2002, 08:22 PM

This should be entertaining.
I don't think SI would be around this long if they fucked honest webmasters over. Simple as that.

FlyingIguana · 07-27-2002, 08:28 PM

i wouldn't say any big company wouldn't screw over honest webmasters.

say their traffic just isn't making the sponsor money, the sponsor may cut you and say you were cheating. even if it wasn't the webmasters fault the site sucked.

Brujah · 07-27-2002, 08:33 PM

Don't take matters into your own hands.
Take it to court ...

Wapner will sort it out!

candidpublishinginc · 07-27-2002, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildick
I just bookmarked this page:

http://www.lacetoleather.com/catmassage.html

Should come in handy when me and kitty are feeling lonely.

WOAH! Hold the phone!

So turbo, your ahem "mom" as you call her runs some sort of bestiality site?

That cat massage was a little....too graphic. I thought I was reading an erotic bestiality story for a second there.

[Labret] · 07-27-2002, 08:47 PM

oh the joy of sitting down hammered and seeing this thread weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

quiet · 07-27-2002, 08:48 PM

hell yeah

421Fill · 07-27-2002, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candidpublishinginc

WOAH! Hold the phone!

So turbo, your ahem "mom" as you call her runs some sort of bestiality site?

That cat massage was a little....too graphic. I thought I was reading an erotic bestiality story for a second there.

ahem, uh my 'Mom' runs a helpful hints site. Maybe you could take the time to look at the main page instead of jumping to conclusions. http://www.lacetoleather.com you know, as in "Everything from lace to leather". Jeesh.

Swiftone · 07-27-2002, 09:21 PM

SI has ripped us off too.

We were using them on legit sites, and get this, they accused us of "MISLEADING VISITORS" with ALLCLICKS (aka Blind Link program).

Even tho what we were doing was RECOMMENDED on the allclicks homepage.. lol!

[Labret] · 07-27-2002, 09:35 PM

SIC owes me $36,000.00

I want it now!

Kimmykim · 07-27-2002, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbo
but then again, anyone who can't even figure out how to fix their sig, really is dumb.

That's probably why I am me and you are not. Sit down, get the Hooked on Phonix out and see what you can glean from it again.

Kimmykim · 07-27-2002, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
oh the joy of sitting down hammered and seeing this thread weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

This should prove interesting if you don't pass out.

B40 · 07-27-2002, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

That's probably why I am me and you are not. Sit down, get the Hooked on Phonix out and see what you can glean from it again.

I hate to say this but...it's "phonics" not "phonix"

jimmyf · 07-27-2002, 10:02 PM

What's cook'n Lamar. Sent you an email a week or 2 ago and it got returned.....

Kimmykim · 07-27-2002, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by B40

I hate to say this but...it's "phonics" not "phonix"

Now think about it. It's wrong. Why would anyone pushing fonix spell it that way? ;-}}}

421Fill · 07-27-2002, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

That's probably why I am me and you are not. Sit down, get the Hooked on Phonix out and see what you can glean from it again.

huh? ........ I mean, huh? what the fuck are you smoking? again... huh? and yeah, like B40 says, it's 'phonics'... I know they hadn't even invented the hooked on phonics program way back when you were a kid, but maybe it would have helped you. It's not to late, you know... last I saw on the commercials they have a cd-rom version out now.

drumsicle · 07-28-2002, 12:04 AM

What adult programs does SI run? I was only aware of allclicks and similar programs, that are strictly non-adult.

kodek · 07-28-2002, 11:20 AM

Quote:

I'll explain why after i'm done watching this video of Turbo's mom taking it in the ass.

Do you think it's funny?
A kind of joke for dumb?

Hey, this Gary must be tough guy!
When sitting at home before his monitor, right?

Gary · 07-28-2002, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kodek

Do you think it's funny?
A kind of joke for dumb?

Hey, this Gary must be tough guy!
When sitting at home before his monitor, right?

Russian? Thought so.

trafficboy · 07-28-2002, 11:38 AM

All i'm saying is - MILF

SleazyDream · 07-28-2002, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Lithuania or Romania gets my bet.

SI has run many programs over the years, and everyone but the cheaters have been happy.

Their TOS is VERY SPECIFIC as to what they allow and don't allow -- and they are VERY STRICT in their enforcement of it.

For those of you who haven't been around that long, the days of a certain company paying out the wazzoo for worthless click traffic bought from brokers has long since been before the FTC and done with.

On that same note, there's a good reason that most companies got out of the click business entirely -- too many cheaters. If you don't believe that, ask Lens how much time he has to devote to enforcing the AP terms too.

kimmy's right, but their TOS is soo specific that it allows 12clicks to bann anyone for any reason whatsoever.

letshunt · 07-28-2002, 12:01 PM

Hey, this is getting good...I took two Xanax and think I will sit back and enjoy the fun.

421Fill · 07-28-2002, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

kimmy's right, but their TOS is soo specific that it allows 12clicks to bann anyone for any reason whatsoever.

Yes, but again... She was NOT terminated from their program... She was banned from their support board, and her posts were deleted... Why is this point so hard to understand?!

However, you and Kimmywhatever are correct that they keep their terms worded solely to protect themselves, but that is a whole nother topic.

07-27-2002, 05:16 PM	#51
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	as far the different ID i have seen it happening to a lot of sponsors. I have seen also sponsors having 404 to their signup page, script errors that crash your system etc. The other day shemp was redirecting to a sponsor. I posted it's an htaccess mistake shemp did. After few min shemp posted the same. I wasn't a magician, these things happen all the day. I have read both bad and good things about SI on the web. I haven't use their programs, but all the friends i have and use them they always getting paid. My friends opinion are more important for me than the posts i read from people i dont even know that's why when someone asks me for a ppc search box i tell him mojosearch. Do I like 12clicks? HELL NO! I have seen bad things for every sponsor and when it comes to mainstream ones with the degree of difficulty running a ppc or pps sponsor then you have to face with zillion scammers and cheaters. Seriously now for the deleted post, maybe it was moved to another section of the board more related or something like that. I can't know. Last edited by Theo; 07-27-2002 at 05:20 PM..

07-27-2002, 05:22 PM	#52
421Fill Super Mario Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Swenson's Avatar Posts: 19,588	Soul_Rebel now that you are speaking with intelligence (thanks btw) I will point out that, no they were not moved, they were removed... and this took place over a period of three months, so the likelihood of something happening like with the shemp the other day is pretty low for that long of a period. Dontcha' think? __________________ RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!

07-27-2002, 05:22 PM	#53
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	12clicks in action! that's why he doesnt post now Last edited by Theo; 07-27-2002 at 05:24 PM..

07-27-2002, 05:24 PM	#54
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	fixed Last edited by Theo; 07-27-2002 at 05:25 PM..

07-27-2002, 05:29 PM	#57
B40 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 7,020	Running the ooooooo program ;) If this were your signature you could be making easy money __________________

07-27-2002, 06:33 PM	#66
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	Gary, KK... Fair enough, was just a thought that ran through my mind. But thanks for clearing that up.

07-27-2002, 06:50 PM	#67
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07-27-2002, 06:59 PM	#69
421Fill Super Mario Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Swenson's Avatar Posts: 19,588	K. just to clarify again... She was not terminated from their program... she was banned from their support board for calling them on lies. as far as I know her account is still active, although she stopped promoting them on her own accord. __________________ RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!

07-27-2002, 07:00 PM	#70
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	I had a positive experience with SI's MojoSearch when I used them a while back. Paid good money and re-issued checks when the bank fucked up... yes, it was the bank's fault. ;-) Not my position to comment on their business at the moment 'cause I haven't used them for so long. Seems like some others don't have such a great experience. Maybe it's just the luck of the draw that some have good experiences, and others have bad. Don't really think that anyone can say they are either completely one hundred percent honest all of the time, or complete bastard thieves, based on their own personal experiences with that company. Even if they are strict as fuck, each situation is different. Only natural that anyone that gets canned (for whatever reason, whether legit or not) wants to see them go out of business, whilst those with good experiences generally sit back, rarely bothering to throw in their two cents, and watch the whole drama unfold.

07-27-2002, 07:15 PM	#72
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07-27-2002, 07:18 PM	#73
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07-27-2002, 07:32 PM	#74
421Fill Super Mario Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Swenson's Avatar Posts: 19,588	Oh KimmyKim, you're back... now what exactly was it that I was 'assuming'? __________________ RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!

07-27-2002, 07:42 PM	#77
421Fill Super Mario Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Swenson's Avatar Posts: 19,588	but then again, anyone who can't even figure out how to fix their sig, really is dumb. __________________ RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!

07-27-2002, 08:22 PM	#79
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	This should be entertaining. I don't think SI would be around this long if they fucked honest webmasters over. Simple as that.

07-27-2002, 08:28 PM	#80
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	i wouldn't say any big company wouldn't screw over honest webmasters. say their traffic just isn't making the sponsor money, the sponsor may cut you and say you were cheating. even if it wasn't the webmasters fault the site sucked. Last edited by FlyingIguana; 07-27-2002 at 08:33 PM..

07-27-2002, 08:33 PM	#81
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07-27-2002, 08:47 PM	#83
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	oh the joy of sitting down hammered and seeing this thread weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

07-27-2002, 08:48 PM	#84
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	hell yeah

07-27-2002, 09:21 PM	#86
Swiftone Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 337	SI has ripped us off too. We were using them on legit sites, and get this, they accused us of "MISLEADING VISITORS" with ALLCLICKS (aka Blind Link program). Even tho what we were doing was RECOMMENDED on the allclicks homepage.. lol!

07-27-2002, 09:35 PM	#87
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	SIC owes me $36,000.00 I want it now!

07-27-2002, 10:02 PM	#91
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07-28-2002, 12:04 AM	#94
drumsicle Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Posts: 1,049	What adult programs does SI run? I was only aware of allclicks and similar programs, that are strictly non-adult.

07-28-2002, 11:38 AM	#97
trafficboy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: o Posts: 73	All i'm saying is - MILF

07-28-2002, 12:01 PM	#99
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