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  • Theo
    HAL 9000
    • May 2001
    • 34515

    #51
    as far the different ID i have seen it happening to a lot of sponsors. I have seen also sponsors having 404 to their signup page, script errors that crash your system etc. The other day shemp was redirecting to a sponsor. I posted it's an htaccess mistake shemp did. After few min shemp posted the same. I wasn't a magician, these things happen all the day.

    I have read both bad and good things about SI on the web. I haven't use their programs, but all the friends i have and use them they always getting paid. My friends opinion are more important for me than the posts i read from people i dont even know that's why when someone asks me for a ppc search box i tell him mojosearch. Do I like 12clicks? HELL NO!

    I have seen bad things for every sponsor and when it comes to mainstream ones with the degree of difficulty running a ppc or pps sponsor then you have to face with zillion scammers and cheaters.

    Seriously now for the deleted post, maybe it was moved to another section of the board more related or something like that. I can't know.
    Last edited by Theo; 07-27-2002, 04:20 PM.

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    • 421Fill
      So Fucking Banned
      • Nov 2001
      • 20659

      #52
      Soul_Rebel now that you are speaking with intelligence (thanks btw) I will point out that, no they were not moved, they were removed... and this took place over a period of three months, so the likelihood of something happening like with the shemp the other day is pretty low for that long of a period. Dontcha' think?

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      • Theo
        HAL 9000
        • May 2001
        • 34515

        #53


        12clicks in action! that's why he doesnt post now
        Last edited by Theo; 07-27-2002, 04:24 PM.

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        • Theo
          HAL 9000
          • May 2001
          • 34515

          #54
          fixed
          Last edited by Theo; 07-27-2002, 04:25 PM.

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          • Techie Media
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2001
            • 3092

            #55
            Originally posted by Kimmykim


            Go figure, we must be the only ones.
            Not true Kimmy my Sweetie.....I use several of 12clicks programs and Never had 1 single problem. So can can I join you and Gary???...Pretty please

            to Standard Internet
            Last edited by Techie Media; 07-27-2002, 04:27 PM.


            sales [AT] techiemedia.com

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            • Kimmykim
              bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
              • Jun 2001
              • 16015

              #56
              Originally posted by turbo
              Notice how KimmyKim has shut up now that I pointed out how she didn't even bother to read what was posted... hmmmm
              I read the part where your moms a cheater, what did you not understand?

              Maybe she did it by mistake, maybe she can't read, what do I know about her?

              Interestingly enough, why are you the one posting about this if your mom is the one with the problem? I guarantee she'd get alot more sympathy by posting about it herself than by you starting such a lame thread.

              I've also seen SI occasionally give someone a second chance, if they made a mistake and it wasn't an intentional thing.

              Gary, icq me that vid when you're done with it, Emeril's cookin' but I'm not paying much attention since I don't like the menu...

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              • B40
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2001
                • 7020

                #57
                Running the ooooooo program ;)

                If this were your signature you could be making easy money

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                • 421Fill
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 20659

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Kimmykim


                  I read the part where your moms a cheater, what did you not understand?

                  Maybe she did it by mistake, maybe she can't read, what do I know about her?

                  Interestingly enough, why are you the one posting about this if your mom is the one with the problem? I guarantee she'd get alot more sympathy by posting about it herself than by you starting such a lame thread.

                  I've also seen SI occasionally give someone a second chance, if they made a mistake and it wasn't an intentional thing.

                  Gary, icq me that vid when you're done with it, Emeril's cookin' but I'm not paying much attention since I don't like the menu...
                  Where did it once say that my Mom was a cheater?! And she isn't post here because... now brace yourself for this one... SHE IS NOT IN ADULT, therefore she doen't even know of this place.

                  Oh, and about having a stern talk to ones mom if they were doing porn... you're a mom aren't you? Maybe you should think before you post. And all this coming from someone whos' husbands program is banned here. lol wonder why that is?

                  Now just go down to your couch and tell gary it's past his naptime.

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                  • 421Fill
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 20659

                    #59
                    Originally posted by B40
                    Running the ooooooo program ;)

                    If this were your signature you could be making easy money



                    hehehe... kind of ironic isn't it? LOL

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                    • Pathfinder
                      theking of trailer parks
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 2290

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Lamar
                      Well, I see that Serge's Good Bad and Ugly is censored on this board. Not sure what that's all about but that also speaks volumes.
                      Hey Lamar. Its been awhile.

                      Yep Serge has been banned at least twice.

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                      • mrthumbs
                        salad tossing sig guy
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 11702

                        #61
                        Originally posted by turbo


                        Where did it once say that my Mom was a cheater?! And she isn't post here because... now brace yourself for this one... SHE IS NOT IN ADULT, therefore she doen't even know of this place.

                        Oh, and about having a stern talk to ones mom if they were doing porn... you're a mom aren't you? Maybe you should think before you post. And all this coming from someone whos' husbands program is banned here. lol wonder why that is?

                        Now just go down to your couch and tell gary it's past his naptime.

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                        • Sly_RJ
                          Live Hard - Die Hard
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 17042

                          #62
                          Originally posted by turbo


                          Where did it once say that my Mom was a cheater?! And she isn't post here because... now brace yourself for this one... SHE IS NOT IN ADULT, therefore she doen't even know of this place.

                          Oh, and about having a stern talk to ones mom if they were doing porn... you're a mom aren't you? Maybe you should think before you post. And all this coming from someone whos' husbands program is banned here. lol wonder why that is?

                          Now just go down to your couch and tell gary it's past his naptime.


                          Pretty funny bro, pretty funny...

                          Have any smaller webmasters had any success with SI? From what I have picked up on through various threads over the past several months... Lightning has some numbers to push, KimmyKim certainly isn't another fly, and Gary is the king of elephant bukkake. It would be in SI's best interest to keep people like these happy, but not necessarily the smaller folks who take up more resources but turn less profit.

                          Just something to think about, I really have no idea. Never tried out SI...
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                          • Gary
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2001
                            • 6110

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Sly_RJ



                            Pretty funny bro, pretty funny...

                            Have any smaller webmasters had any success with SI? From what I have picked up on through various threads over the past several months... Lightning has some numbers to push, KimmyKim certainly isn't another fly, and Gary is the king of elephant bukkake. It would be in SI's best interest to keep people like these happy, but not necessarily the smaller folks who take up more resources but turn less profit.

                            Just something to think about, I really have no idea. Never tried out SI...
                            Please, i dont send SI programs more than a few hits a month. Trust me, Ron aint buying land because of me. LOL

                            Another thing, Ron doesn't give a shit how much traffic you send. As long as you are not a dick or a russian, he'll gladly talk to you unless you attempt to flame him on a message board.

                            Up to 35$ per join...!

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                            • Kimmykim
                              bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 16015

                              #64
                              Originally posted by Sly_RJ



                              Pretty funny bro, pretty funny...

                              Have any smaller webmasters had any success with SI? From what I have picked up on through various threads over the past several months... Lightning has some numbers to push, KimmyKim certainly isn't another fly, and Gary is the king of elephant bukkake. It would be in SI's best interest to keep people like these happy, but not necessarily the smaller folks who take up more resources but turn less profit.

                              Just something to think about, I really have no idea. Never tried out SI...
                              Nope, Sly -- it's not about being something besides a small fry with Standard --

                              I don't have any personal traffic of my own, haven't since I went to work for CCBill a couple years back.

                              I am talking about when I was lucky to get a check for 50 bucks from them. I always got paid, shrimp that I was, and they were nice enough to help me figure out what worked, and not just for their programs either -- 12clicks taught me how to build Yahoo sites that got listed and made money...


                              As for you turbo, you assume way too much.

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                              • 421Fill
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 20659

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Kimmykim



                                As for you turbo, you assume way too much.
                                What is it that I am assuming? Please enlighten me.

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                                • Sly_RJ
                                  Live Hard - Die Hard
                                  • Feb 2002
                                  • 17042

                                  #66
                                  Gary, KK...

                                  Fair enough, was just a thought that ran through my mind. But thanks for clearing that up.
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                                  • nocostporn
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2002
                                    • 5228

                                    #67
                                    and then there are those who choose sides for the sake of ass kissing the "powerful" of the two parties..ahem.. theres my only comment for the thread...
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                                    • Ace-Ace
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2002
                                      • 1863

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Gary
                                      Is your mother russian?
                                      Hahaha
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                                      • 421Fill
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Nov 2001
                                        • 20659

                                        #69
                                        K. just to clarify again... She was not terminated from their program... she was banned from their support board for calling them on lies. as far as I know her account is still active, although she stopped promoting them on her own accord.

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                                        • ldinternet
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2001
                                          • 8245

                                          #70
                                          I had a positive experience with SI's MojoSearch when I used them a while back. Paid good money and re-issued checks when the bank fucked up... yes, it was the bank's fault. ;-)

                                          Not my position to comment on their business at the moment 'cause I haven't used them for so long. Seems like some others don't have such a great experience. Maybe it's just the luck of the draw that some have good experiences, and others have bad.

                                          Don't really think that anyone can say they are either completely one hundred percent honest all of the time, or complete bastard thieves, based on their own personal experiences with that company. Even if they are strict as fuck, each situation is different.

                                          Only natural that anyone that gets canned (for whatever reason, whether legit or not) wants to see them go out of business, whilst those with good experiences generally sit back, rarely bothering to throw in their two cents, and watch the whole drama unfold.

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                                          • Kimmykim
                                            bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                            • Jun 2001
                                            • 16015

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by nocostporn
                                            and then there are those who choose sides for the sake of ass kissing the "powerful" of the two parties..ahem.. theres my only comment for the thread...
                                            No real validity to that either nocostporn -- it's no secret that I like those guys, I happen to find them excellent people to do business with and to hang out with.

                                            I've known 12clicks since about the time I started in this business and he's one of the few that I still like, talk to, AND do business with when the opportunity arises.

                                            Y'all haters just don't understand his sense of humor ;)

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                                            • nocostporn
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2002
                                              • 5228

                                              #72
                                              maybe I wasn't talking about you love... but yes..yes I was LOL
                                              and I'm the same way,I would stand up for a friend even if I don't know the whole story...meh not my business anyways..I'm out of this one
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                                              • pr0
                                                rockin tha trailerpark
                                                • May 2001
                                                • 23088

                                                #73
                                                I never missed a check from standard internet.
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                                                • 421Fill
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                  • 20659

                                                  #74
                                                  Oh KimmyKim, you're back... now what exactly was it that I was 'assuming'?

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                                                  • Kimmykim
                                                    bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                    • 16015

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by turbo
                                                    Oh KimmyKim, you're back... now what exactly was it that I was 'assuming'?
                                                    That your head up your ass wasn't noticeable to anyone but you?

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                                                    • 421Fill
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                      • 20659

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by Kimmykim


                                                      That your head up your ass wasn't noticeable to anyone but you?
                                                      see, when you say stuff that you think makes you sound like you know what you're talking about... you really should have something better to say than a childish avoiding the question answer. Just makes you look even more dumb everytime you post.

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                                                      • 421Fill
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Nov 2001
                                                        • 20659

                                                        #77
                                                        but then again, anyone who can't even figure out how to fix their sig, really is dumb.

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                                                        • gothweb
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                          • 8849

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Lightning

                                                          So can can I join you and Gary???...Pretty please
                                                          Now that is a bizarre love triangle. That image is going to be with me for weeks. Bleh.

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                                                          • chodadog
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Apr 2002
                                                            • 9736

                                                            #79
                                                            This should be entertaining.
                                                            I don't think SI would be around this long if they fucked honest webmasters over. Simple as that.
                                                            26 + 6 = 1

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                                                            • FlyingIguana
                                                              aspiring banker
                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                              • 10870

                                                              #80
                                                              i wouldn't say any big company wouldn't screw over honest webmasters.

                                                              say their traffic just isn't making the sponsor money, the sponsor may cut you and say you were cheating. even if it wasn't the webmasters fault the site sucked.
                                                              Last edited by FlyingIguana; 07-27-2002, 07:33 PM.

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                                                              • Brujah
                                                                Beer Money Baron
                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 22157

                                                                #81
                                                                Don't take matters into your own hands.
                                                                Take it to court ...

                                                                Wapner will sort it out!

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                                                                • candidpublishinginc
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                  • 707

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by evildick
                                                                  I just bookmarked this page:

                                                                  http://www.lacetoleather.com/catmassage.html

                                                                  Should come in handy when me and kitty are feeling lonely.
                                                                  WOAH! Hold the phone!

                                                                  So turbo, your ahem "mom" as you call her runs some sort of bestiality site?

                                                                  That cat massage was a little....too graphic. I thought I was reading an erotic bestiality story for a second there.
                                                                  Candid Clicks
                                                                  Earn up to 4 cents a click for blind link traffic!
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                                                                  • [Labret]
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                    • 10945

                                                                    #83
                                                                    oh the joy of sitting down hammered and seeing this thread weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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                                                                    • quiet
                                                                      we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                                      • 25115

                                                                      #84
                                                                      hell yeah
                                                                      we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                      • 421Fill
                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                        • Nov 2001
                                                                        • 20659

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by candidpublishinginc


                                                                        WOAH! Hold the phone!

                                                                        So turbo, your ahem "mom" as you call her runs some sort of bestiality site?

                                                                        That cat massage was a little....too graphic. I thought I was reading an erotic bestiality story for a second there.
                                                                        ahem, uh my 'Mom' runs a helpful hints site. Maybe you could take the time to look at the main page instead of jumping to conclusions. http://www.lacetoleather.com you know, as in "Everything from lace to leather". Jeesh.

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                                                                        • Swiftone
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 337

                                                                          #86
                                                                          SI has ripped us off too.

                                                                          We were using them on legit sites, and get this, they accused us of "MISLEADING VISITORS" with ALLCLICKS (aka Blind Link program).

                                                                          Even tho what we were doing was RECOMMENDED on the allclicks homepage.. lol!
                                                                          Yo.

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                                                                          • [Labret]
                                                                            Registered User
                                                                            • May 2001
                                                                            • 10945

                                                                            #87
                                                                            SIC owes me $36,000.00

                                                                            I want it now!

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                                                                            • Kimmykim
                                                                              bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                              • 16015

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by turbo
                                                                              but then again, anyone who can't even figure out how to fix their sig, really is dumb.
                                                                              That's probably why I am me and you are not. Sit down, get the Hooked on Phonix out and see what you can glean from it again.

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                                                                              • Kimmykim
                                                                                bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                • 16015

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by [Labret]
                                                                                oh the joy of sitting down hammered and seeing this thread weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
                                                                                This should prove interesting if you don't pass out.

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                                                                                • B40
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                  • 7020

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by Kimmykim


                                                                                  That's probably why I am me and you are not. Sit down, get the Hooked on Phonix out and see what you can glean from it again.
                                                                                  I hate to say this but...it's "phonics" not "phonix"

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                                                                                  • jimmyf
                                                                                    OU812
                                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                                    • 12651

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    What's cook'n Lamar. Sent you an email a week or 2 ago and it got returned.....
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                                                                                    • Kimmykim
                                                                                      bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                      • 16015

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by B40


                                                                                      I hate to say this but...it's "phonics" not "phonix"
                                                                                      Now think about it. It's wrong. Why would anyone pushing fonix spell it that way? ;-}}}

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                                                                                      • 421Fill
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Nov 2001
                                                                                        • 20659

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by Kimmykim


                                                                                        That's probably why I am me and you are not. Sit down, get the Hooked on Phonix out and see what you can glean from it again.
                                                                                        huh? ........ I mean, huh? what the fuck are you smoking? again... huh? and yeah, like B40 says, it's 'phonics'... I know they hadn't even invented the hooked on phonics program way back when you were a kid, but maybe it would have helped you. It's not to late, you know... last I saw on the commercials they have a cd-rom version out now.

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                                                                                        • drumsicle
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                          • 1049

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          What adult programs does SI run? I was only aware of allclicks and similar programs, that are strictly non-adult.
                                                                                          Another worthless post?

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                                                                                          • kodek
                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                            • Jun 2001
                                                                                            • 52

                                                                                            #95

                                                                                            I'll explain why after i'm done watching this video of Turbo's mom taking it in the ass.
                                                                                            Do you think it's funny?
                                                                                            A kind of joke for dumb?

                                                                                            Hey, this Gary must be tough guy!
                                                                                            When sitting at home before his monitor, right?

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                                                                                            • Gary
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                                              • 6110

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by kodek

                                                                                              Do you think it's funny?
                                                                                              A kind of joke for dumb?

                                                                                              Hey, this Gary must be tough guy!
                                                                                              When sitting at home before his monitor, right?
                                                                                              Russian? Thought so.

                                                                                              Up to 35$ per join...!

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                                                                                              • trafficboy
                                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                                • 73

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                All i'm saying is - MILF

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                                                                                                • SleazyDream
                                                                                                  I'm here for SPORT
                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                  • 41470

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Kimmykim


                                                                                                  Lithuania or Romania gets my bet.

                                                                                                  SI has run many programs over the years, and everyone but the cheaters have been happy.

                                                                                                  Their TOS is VERY SPECIFIC as to what they allow and don't allow -- and they are VERY STRICT in their enforcement of it.

                                                                                                  For those of you who haven't been around that long, the days of a certain company paying out the wazzoo for worthless click traffic bought from brokers has long since been before the FTC and done with.

                                                                                                  On that same note, there's a good reason that most companies got out of the click business entirely -- too many cheaters. If you don't believe that, ask Lens how much time he has to devote to enforcing the AP terms too.
                                                                                                  kimmy's right, but their TOS is soo specific that it allows 12clicks to bann anyone for any reason whatsoever.
                                                                                                  This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                                                  Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                                                  • letshunt
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                                                    • 196

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Hey, this is getting good...I took two Xanax and think I will sit back and enjoy the fun.
                                                                                                    The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his. -George Patton

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                                                                                                    • 421Fill
                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                                                      • 20659

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by SleazyDream


                                                                                                      kimmy's right, but their TOS is soo specific that it allows 12clicks to bann anyone for any reason whatsoever.
                                                                                                      Yes, but again... She was NOT terminated from their program... She was banned from their support board, and her posts were deleted... Why is this point so hard to understand?!

                                                                                                      However, you and Kimmywhatever are correct that they keep their terms worded solely to protect themselves, but that is a whole nother topic.

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