Cologroup.com fucking people!

[oohhwwee]

ok, pimpshost posted about us not paying cologroup, now our side of the story:

Before cologroup our traffic was (400k/day) with 4-5mbps bandwidth and 99.9% uptime as everywhere.

With Cologroup, because of their greed and ignorance/stupidity of their main tech (Myles) our traffic during the time with them went down to 40k/day... BUT our our bandwidth usage jumped to a magical 40-50bmps... and they couldn't give us any explanation what was using the bandwidth, we installed server logs, these showed 4-5mbps, but they said it's 40mbps, so they sent us $2300 bill - our logical answer to that would have been: "Go Fuck Yourself".


Cologroup Fucking Customers
Our tech's guess was that they're just fucking people and transferring data between 2 servers in their facility, this way it won't cost them any bandwidth and clients would have to pay a fortune for nothing. Remember, our server logs still showed real traffic which was 10 times lower than of their MRTG stats.


Inexperienced Tech Support
They're tech installed us a second server, we asked for both servers to have a separate system, but their tech insisted on balancing - as both servers were in different facilities the balancing also costed us about 5000GB's of bandwidth, then it comes out the balancing was set up wrong and it was corrupting all our files. So all our client info and pages were fucked.

Why we didn't pay them?
I told Jason (cologroup), that we didn't use the bandwidth your stats show, we can proove it and we won't pay for it.
After showing all the proof to him, he decreased the bill from $2300 to $1000.

Our actual bill was around $600, so i asked what's the extra $400 for? Jason said: "tech support", basicly i had to pay them extra $400 for their tech fucking up our business and causing us loads of downtime, would you have paid?

What Now?
Now we're hosted with Cari.net, we believe in the honesty of this company and we've paid them up front, we're currently using 1mbps of bandwidth, which is in correct accordance with the traffic.

Conclusion
ColoGroup fucked with us and we fucked back with them!

[Bobo]

Just curious, do you run a TGP? If not and you're serving images and doing 400k users per day, then you're doing around 40mb-50mb.

[oohhwwee]

400k/day hits at peaktime, it was 4-5 mbps average, average traffic was about 200k/day, that's 40GB/day (on the highest day!), that's 1200GB per month / 300 = 4mbps

[Nysus]

Nice write up.

Cheers,
Matt

[hahmike]

Originally posted by oohhwwee
400k/day hits at peaktime, it was 4-5 mbps average, average traffic was about 200k/day, that's 40GB/day (on the highest day!), that's 1200GB per month / 300 = 4mbps

yep, sounds about right.

[Theo]

everyday i'm reading something bad about paidhostiing, that's why i host everything on terra. Whenever i called them for support they didnt charge me anything. They are real pro.

[Bobo]

Originally posted by oohhwwee
400k/day hits at peaktime, it was 4-5 mbps average, average traffic was about 200k/day, that's 40GB/day (on the highest day!), that's 1200GB per month / 300 = 4mbps

I guess I can't really argue with you. If that's what you did, that's what you did.

[Bobo]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
everyday i'm reading something bad about paidhostiing, that's why i host everything on terra. Whenever i called them for support they didnt charge me anything. They are real pro.

LOL

[Mr.Fiction]

I have no idea about this thread, but I have seen badly configured bandwidth stats that wrongly show internal traffic as part of your billable bandwidth. If you do a lot of copying between machines (for backups for example) or if you're running a database server, or anything like that, it can make a huge difference.

Again, I have no clue about this specific case, I'm just saying I've seen that happen in the past.

[oohhwwee]

Why I posted the reply to cologroup's message about calling us cheats.... I've been in the biz since 1996, that's almost 8 years, i run everything from dialer companies, casino's, paid hosting, free hosting, sponsor programs, even AVS, in 2001 I got fucked from my uplink and paid my webmasters out around $8,000 from my own pocket, so it really pisses me off when someone says i cheated them.

I've made mistakes, learned from them, and trying to run my businesses the best i can.

[mariuz]

Good job

sounds like you got fucked


but watch out

any moment now the jason cheerleading squad will show up and place lips to cologroup buttocks..and you will me made to sound like a fool.

[Houdini]

Originally posted by oohhwwee
I've been in the biz since 1996, that's almost 8 years, i run everything from dialer companies, casino's, paid hosting, free hosting, sponsor programs, even AVS,...

Why did you use cologroup if you run your own paid hosting?

[oohhwwee]

I chose cologroup for the free hosting business because of cheap CogentCo bandwidth they offered, didn't have that with my uplink.

Jason said King Host also hosts with them - King Host switched at the same time I did, so i transfered my sites from one server to them to give them a try.

[pimpshost]

Out of 200 servers, you seem to be the only one who has had a problem with the Bandwidth Graphs. Your traffic went from 1 Mbps to 80 MBps during a period of 24 hours, and no matter what we did, your servers will still fucked because they where maxed out.

Can you explain the bad Credit Card? Or the fact you promised to pay 10 times and I still see nothing? You are simply a scam artist and took advantage of our services and openess to work with you. Read the ICQ and try and re-explain yourself you crook!

Sat Jun 08 04:50:43 2002

[09:31] Potential Reseller: for my freehosting company (Link: http://www.thexxxhosting.com)http://www.thexxxhosting.com - i'll be getting a client in a few days that wants to host he's movieclips with us, he's doing 12TB/month
[09:31] cologroup: sweet
[09:31] cologroup: If he is going to sign up with you, let me know, because you will need 2 GB memory in your server to handle that.
[09:32] Potential Reseller: ok, thanks

Fri Jun 14 14:48:53 2002

[14:48] Potential Reseller: yep, he's gonna start promoting today/tomorrow - i'm waiting for the MRTG graphs to be set up first so i could keep an eye on his bandwidth and see how profitable it is working with him.

Sun Jun 16 11:46:01 2002

[11:39] Potential Reseller: everything else looks good, also i'm glad you got the server problem fixed that fast yesterday. We could really use the extra server and I told our client to start promoting his galleries again tomorrow, i wasn't sure if the server could keep up with the high bandwidth usage again.
[11:41] cologroup: OK, then it is a go, great
[11:41] cologroup: I will set it up for you.
[11:42] Potential Reseller: thanks
[11:46] Potential Reseller: Our monitor shows atm
Average bits in (for the day):
Avg: 10.70 Mbits/sec
Average bits out (for the day):
Avg: 1.14 Mbits/sec

Sun Jun 16 23:39:43 2002

[23:41] cologroup: We are working on your 2nd machine, because the first one is getting slammed. It looks like this guy will do 100 MBps without a problem. Will you be able to afford the $5,000 bill for 100 MBps? I just want to make sure, as once we put the 2nd server up, we are basically sure that 100 Mbps is what it will do.
[23:50] Potential Reseller: np
[23:51] Potential Reseller: how fast will the server be set up?

[.:Frog:.]

About 4 weeks ago half the board is bitching about cologroup downtime on virtual accounts. Things get fixed and everyone is starting to cool off, when today their servers are down 12 hours. 12 HOURS!!!!!!
Unless a mad man went into their data center with an Ak-47 and starting shooting the place up, their is no excuse for such downtime.
That downtime would cripple many sites.

[oohhwwee]

seems it wasn't a misconfiguration in the MRTG stats after all, you were trying to rip us off - Our client never did more than 7000 hits/day, at best he used 3GB of traffic in total, so he wasn't the cause of the traffic and you just started running in-facility traffic thru our stats to make the bandwidth bill bigger.


Regarding delaying you with payment - we were trying to switch our sites to another host without you shutting us down and we getting downtime, but couldn't because everything was always fucked up. A week after you got things finally up we switched asap, it takes 3-4 days to flush out old IP's from internet.

Riddle me this - why is it that when we finally installed our bandwidth monitoring software the bandwidth fell from 50mbps to 3mbps, as soon as i told you about it?

[pimpshost]

when today their servers are down 12 hours. 12 HOURS!!!!!!

Sorry buddy, that is not true. One customers server had a specific problem that lasted 12 hours, and we had a seperate router problem this morning. All got fixed. Also, only half of our customers went offline, because the 1:30 minute outage was in SD and did not effect LA.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by oohhwwee

Riddle me this - why is it that when we finally installed our bandwidth monitoring software the bandwidth fell from 50mbps to 3mbps, as soon as i told you about it?

You uploaded jpeg galleries where the facial humiliation dogfart movie galleries once were?

[oohhwwee]

Pimpshost - Please explain, how our bandwidth usage increased from 4mbps to 40mbps, with the sextracker counter and apache server logs showing the same traffic?

If you're hosted with cologroup - you should try putting your server on cari.net (the company cologroup is reselling for), your bandwidth usage will probably decrease 10 times.

[pimpshost]

You switched the sites off our network. Your where playing games and you just admitted it.

Why would I have given you an additional server?.... that cost me $2000 if you where not pushing traffic? I did it because you agreed you where pushing a lot of traffic and would pay. You are a theif.

[oohhwwee]

Originally posted by pimpshost
You switched the sites off our network. Your where playing games and you just admitted it.

Why would I have given you an additional server?.... that cost me $2000 if you where not pushing traffic? I did it because you agreed you where pushing a lot of traffic and would pay. You are a theif.

You are a thief and a liar!
You stole our bandwidth, because that's what it is.
And you're lieing - you're colocated at cari.net - the server costs only $150 not $2000

[bash]

ban cologroup.

[pimpshost]

btw, we are cari.net biggest customer, and you have no idea what you are doing to yourself. I will have you shut down tomorrow! Guaranteed.

And yes, you can go to cari.net, but they do not know how to admin servers. Good luck with them! All they do is reboots, plus you have to commit to lots of bandwidth much like rackshack does. Also, they dont have comparable machines. Do you like hosting on a cobalt?

[pimpshost]

Dip shit, we manufacture servers and use the colo space in cari.net. You are hosting on a cobalt in their managed server section! thexxxhosting is on a cobalt Good luck with that!

[mariuz]

poor cologroup ALWAYS defending himself here.

Why is that?

[pimpshost]

Things have been great with the exception of this deadbeat and a problem this morning. "oohhwwee" is the one defending himself. He did not pay and got shut down.

[oohhwwee]

lol, you manufacture servers, eh? you mean your tech's that can't set up phpMyAdmin manufacture servers, now that really gives me confidence in your hardware

[pimpshost]

Keep talking dick head. Anyone who knows me on here knowsyou are barking up the wrong tree. You are full of shit and you will get shut down tomorrow.

I know the CEO of Cari.net and we are the biggest customer in the facility. He can choose your business or mine. Lets see what he decides.

BTW, keep running your mouth. This will be entertaining.

[Theo]

sunday night without gfy drama is impossible

[pimpshost]

Yep, well, I am done talking with oohhwwee. We'll see what happens.

[oohhwwee]

Originally posted by pimpshost
btw, we are cari.net biggest customer, and you have no idea what you are doing to yourself. I will have you shut down tomorrow! Guaranteed.

Ok bro, you fucked with my business for one month and now you're threatening me, what are you "the hosting mafia?"

[gothweb]

Has anyone else noticed that more often than not, these fights make both parties look bad?

[oohhwwee]

Originally posted by gothweb
Has anyone else noticed that more often than not, these fights make both parties look bad?

Yes i know what you mean, both parties just raise the stakes with east post, but makes a damn good thread doesn't it?
How many people here knew before that pimpshost/cologroup is "the hosting mafia"?

[foe]

I got the beer

[wannabeapornstar]

I got pop corn

[foe]

Im debating now whether to goto to a movie with friends or stay home and watch this thread ....

[kmanrox]

i love watching people who cant afford to pay their bills come make excuses....

[oohhwwee]

Cologroup cheated us and we have the proof, it doesn't have anything to do with paying bills, now they're threatening us to shut up, what a business.

[kmanrox]

Originally posted by oohhwwee
Cologroup cheated us and we have the proof, it doesn't have anything to do with paying bills, now they're threatening us to shut up, what a business.

two tears in a bucket newbie...

do you think the ppl on this board are morons? apparently so... go try to fuck over another hosting company kid, cologroup ain't havin' it... and personally i dont think she should even acknowledge you exist because all you are doing is feebly attempting to ruin their business, you are some anonymous little prick who can't pay his bill, why should they even bother?

Rawpussy.com #36 on sextracker has used cologroup for some time now and they are stellar... now go bury your dick in some warm mud or something...

[Sly_RJ]

Should I break out the Red Bull?

[FierceHost]

post the proof, screenshots, pictures, links, text

[pimpshost]

I can pay my bills and you are the one with the problem. I have over 200 dedicated servers and not one customer thinks I am screwing them over but you. And you are the one who cant pay your bill.

Picking cari as your next hosting company was your mistake. You obviously did not take into account that we are there biggest customer.

So, how do you expect to screw over the biggest customer in the facility and think that will work out in your favor?

This is very easy to understand.

[foe]

Originally posted by FierceHost
post the proof, screenshots, pictures, links, text

Otherwise

[kmanrox]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Should I break out the Red Bull?

i cook red bull up and sniff it...

feez good

[pimpshost]

Listen to this latest threat on ICQ ->

[18:23] Tann - Potential Reseller: how long do you think you could hold on to your customers if i'd make thexxxhosting a paid hosting company, a competitor? ;)

OMG

[oohhwwee]

Originally posted by mariuz
Good job

sounds like you got fucked


but watch out

any moment now the jason cheerleading squad will show up and place lips to cologroup buttocks..and you will me made to sound like a fool.

They have arrived!

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by kmanrox


i cook red bull up and sniff it...

feez good

Hmm... that explains so much.

[kmanrox]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Hmm... that explains so much.

are u hitting on me?

[pimpshost]

Here is the graph of one of the servers, BSD82. The bandwidth drops off after week 24 because we switched his sites to BSD90.

[Wiredoctor]

Damm this is fun